It's now generally acknowledged that next season will not start until 2020.

The season must end by the 3rd week of July, as per NBC's demand that it not interfere with the Olympics. Maybe a two week break between regular season and playoffs? Maybe.

And yes, the league absolutely can and will claw back more than 30% if they have to. It's basically the most important clause of the CBA - salaries will not exceed 50% of league revenues.
- Atomic Wedgie

won't salaries be pro-rated for the number of games? just lowers the amount of escrow. 6 of one, half dozen of another.

lots of industries are hurting. cut-backs to marketing/advertising budgets are fairly widespread. not so sure the sponsorship deals will be there.

my guess is we reasonable deals at the start of free agency, with minimal/no signing bonuses years 1-2. backloaded instead.

i'm also guessing team budgets will dry up fast. it'll be a game of musical chairs. there will probably be a few surprise guys still standing by halloween that will have to take an undervalued 1-2 year deal.

1 year deals will be the worst. with 20% escrow, 10% deferral, taxes/union dues/agent fees etc - there won't be a lot scratch left at the end of the day.

but who the (frank) knows. there is no precedent to go by. so anyone's guess is as good as another.
- Tumbleweed

It’s going to be really interesting for a guy like Dubas. Do you try to grab AP early or keep your powder dry and wait. If he isn’t keen to play just anywhere maybe you wait it out a bit. If he signs somewhere else, you might be right and there might be good deals for good players later.

It's now generally acknowledged that next season will not start until 2020.

The season must end by the 3rd week of July, as per NBC's demand that it not interfere with the Olympics. Maybe a two week break between regular season and playoffs? Maybe.

And yes, the league absolutely can and will claw back more than 30% if they have to. It's basically the most important clause of the CBA - salaries will not exceed 50% of league revenues.
- Atomic Wedgie

I thought the whole reason they negotiated a new CBA was so the players had some certainty. It makes no sense for the players to sign a new CBA unless they are receiving some certainty on salaries for 2020-2021.

Good luck clawing back money from players that you already paid to them on July 01.

won't salaries be pro-rated for the number of games? just lowers the amount of escrow. 6 of one, half dozen of another.
- Tumbleweed

Absolutely.

That was my original point - structure AP's contract so he gets league minimum this year!

I don't think they would be compensated either, which will put insurance companies at risk moving forward. Why pay big for a service when the company runs away and hides when it's time to provide service. Covid is going to (frank) up insurance companies big time.
- winsix

insurance will cover what you want. if you want them to cover lost revenue, then you need to have a clause for it; and pay the premium.

sometimes self-insurance is better. have enough cash on hand to operate for 6-12 months of no revenue.

that is one way to look at hit.

personally, i see the lowest risk groups getting covid and the highest not. seems like good risk management to me.
- Tumbleweed

When speaking of risk management of a highly contagious virus, the age groups most likely to expedite delivery to the general population (those working, those going to school) would have to be of greater importance than the risk to those individuals that are infected.

that is one way to look at hit.

personally, i see the lowest risk groups getting covid and the highest not. seems like good risk management to me.
- Tumbleweed

I think it’s a couple of things, the scope of people working is growing with more younger people in service and retail exposed and testing more accessible. My son’s girlfriend found out on Thursday that someone at her restaurant was infected on Thursday and she got her result back today (negative).

There’s also a cohort of students anx teachers, school workers as well as younger people who put themselves at risk.

My son and girlfriend are shutting down socially but most of their friends aren’t.

When speaking of risk management of a highly contagious virus, the age groups most likely to expedite delivery to the general population (those working, those going to school) would have to be of greater importance than the risk to those individuals that are infected.
- winsix

it never made sense to me to quarantine low-risk healthy individuals.

the complete opposite is true - highest risk individuals should quarantine themselves. people who are sick need to quarantine themselves.

if my kids get sick - better believe i'm keeping them home and i'll stay out of the office. i don't want to (frank) things up for everyone.

No, it’s over. He’ll be a Leaf, and win both a Cup and a Norris next year. The bird is the word.
- Steven_Seagull

If he actually came to the Leafs, it'll be the same as Tavares. People would downgrade him immediately.

I wonder if HFBoards did a best d-men in the league poll earlier this season. Be interesting to see how far he'd fall after becoming a Leaf. But they aren't biased against the Leafs at all.

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- Atomic Wedgie

I was almost 5.

I’d grow it long again if it didn’t make me look like Max Webster
- Garnie

I was almost 5.
- GreatGigInTheSky

You missed a helluva party.

insurance will cover what you want. if you want them to cover lost revenue, then you need to have a clause for it; and pay the premium.

sometimes self-insurance is better. have enough cash on hand to operate for 6-12 months of no revenue.
- Tumbleweed

Agree on self insurance
Insurance companies (IMO) are somewhere below poiticians, casinos and major banks in terms of dealing with integrity. My view is they are not your friends, and will do just about anything to weasel out of paying. So I am a little sceptical about being able to insure "what you want"

I thought the whole reason they negotiated a new CBA was so the players had some certainty. It makes no sense for the players to sign a new CBA unless they are receiving some certainty on salaries for 2020-2021.

Good luck clawing back money from players that you already paid to them on July 01.
- Leafs43

The certainly they have on their salaries is that it will be 50% of the league's hockey-related revenues.

Asking players to return money may be messy, but it's a contractual obligation.

IIRC, it used to be done every year, which is why they introduced escrow.

I'm glad I was able to come to hockeybuzz and get world class epidemiologists opinions on covid, why go anywhere else for your info?

I can't wait for brokerage advice next. Is Nortel good?

it never made sense to me to quarantine low-risk healthy individuals.

the complete opposite is true - highest risk individuals should quarantine themselves. people who are sick need to quarantine themselves.

if my kids get sick - better believe i'm keeping them home and i'll stay out of the office. i don't want to (frank) things up for everyone.
- Tumbleweed

Agree mostly, have to proceed with major caution until solid therapeutics are available. Which should be soon.

Agree on self insurance
Insurane companies (IMO) are somewhere below poiticians, casinos and major banks in terms of dealing with integrity. My view is they are not your friends, and will do just about anything to weasel out of paying. So I am a little sceptical about being able to insure "what you want"
- winsix

agreed. insurance is an ass-backwards industry. it is buyer beware.

but if the nhl were to have a leg to stand on for claiming lost revenue, there would have to at least be a general clause in the agreement allowing for it. without it, it's a non-starter.

agreed. insurance is an ass-backwards industry. it is buyer beware.

but if the nhl were to have a leg to stand on for claiming lost revenue, there would have to at least be a general clause in the agreement allowing for it. without it, it's a non-starter.
- Tumbleweed

Acts of God - hurricanes, floods and pandemics are likely the weasel out clause.

I'm glad I was able to come to hockeybuzz and get world class epidemiologists opinions on covid, why go anywhere else for your info?

I can't wait for brokerage advice next. Is Nortel good?
- Archaic

Doctors and science don't know. Youtube does. You'll thank me when you finally take the red pill

I'm glad I was able to come to hockeybuzz and get world class epidemiologists opinions on covid, why go anywhere else for your info?

I can't wait for brokerage advice next. Is Nortel good?
- Archaic

using common sense and being skeptical of what you're being told shouldn't be controversial.

but we should be relying on epidemiologists more. William Farr left us the blueprint for what will happen 140 years ago.

https://www.cebm.net/covi...-way-out-of-the-pandemic/

Acts of God - hurricanes, floods and pandemics are likely the weasel out clause.
- winsix

yup.

I'm glad I was able to come to hockeybuzz and get world class epidemiologists opinions on covid, why go anywhere else for your info?

I can't wait for brokerage advice next. Is Nortel good?
- Archaic

Do you remember the email that went around about the two Nortel employees who took their $1,000 bonuses - one guy bought beer, the other guy bought Nortel stock?

A year later, first guy cleaned out his empties from the garage, and they were worth more than the other guy's Nortel stock.

I miss getting stupid joke emails.

My mom still gets them from a friend - not sure where the guy still gets them from.

Looks like the Leafs are gonna have a crack at AP!

https://www.tsn.ca/contra...have-broken-off-1.1526592
- HenryHockey

We'll know for sure in a couple of weeks

Doctors and science don't know. Youtube does. You'll thank me when you finally take the red pill
- TheMussel

Totally sold on YouTube science, the only place to get good medical advice nowadays.

Just like I feel only true rumours come from Eklund.

Agree mostly, have to proceed with major caution until solid therapeutics are available. Which should be soon.
- winsix

Forgive my ignorance - is "therapeutics" a synonym for a vaccine, or does it denote a wider list of things?