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senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 23 @ 2:36 PM ET
i like a lot of these trades...so that means they wouldnt happen

https://theathletic.com/2...eticals-for-a-defenceman/


Who says no? Maple Leafs trade hypotheticals for a defenceman


gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Sep 23 @ 2:37 PM ET
Kipper (remember him) said 8x8
- Canada Cup

Kipper also once said "Suter to Detroit. Done deal."
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 23 @ 2:38 PM ET
ok so its only been 23 years since the Leafs had a top RHD

not bad not bad

- senstroll


And I kinda threw him out as a joke b/c Leaf fans quickly determined he sucked. We boo'd him right outta town whereupon he went on to help Detroit win 2 Cups.

I bet the last "real Leaf" elite top pairing RHD was Tim Horton. Wedgie and these older buggers would know better than me.

I've been watching hockey for 40 years and until Babcock showed up I had barely ever heard reference to the RH v LH debate.

Salming-Boschman 70's
80's sucked ass
Gill-Ellett 90's
Kaberle-McCabe 00's

All lefties.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 23 @ 2:40 PM ET
He's a 3rd line centre. He plays 15 minutes a night of almost all OZS' and puts up 35-50 points. It's all he does...that and win face-offs. *Bolded as a 1st line C lol
- AdamFrench


He is, and will always be, an Ikea coffee table.

Kinda, sorta okay in a pinch but god would ever like something nicer.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Joseph Woll - starting goalie Leafs 2020-2021 season
Joined: 04.23.2012

Sep 23 @ 2:41 PM ET
He's a 3rd line centre. He plays 15 minutes a night of almost all OZS' and puts up 35-50 points. It's all he does...that and win face-offs. *Bolded as a 1st line C lol
- AdamFrench

My point was that our typical 3C kills penalties and has 60% defensive zone starts -- so not bozak at all..
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Joseph Woll - starting goalie Leafs 2020-2021 season
Joined: 04.23.2012

Sep 23 @ 2:42 PM ET
Just pointing out that Muzzin has yet to play a single NHL game since his injury...
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 23 @ 2:44 PM ET
i like a lot of these trades...so that means they wouldnt happen

https://theathletic.com/2...eticals-for-a-defenceman/


Who says no? Maple Leafs trade hypotheticals for a defenceman

- senstroll


Severson - I say hell yes, Jersey says (frank) no.

Larsson - ya, I think so, right? Might line up for both sides.

Manson - uggh touch call on losing that 15th in a great draft. Can I make it the 21' first?

Weegar - I say hell yes, Zito says no.

Ekblad - I say hell yes, I think Zito says no.



Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Sep 23 @ 2:46 PM ET
Severson - I say hell yes, Jersey says (frank) no.

Larsson - ya, I think so, right? Might line up for both sides.

Manson - uggh touch call on losing that 15th in a great draft. Can I make it the 21' first?

Weegar - I say hell yes, Zito says no.

Ekblad - I say hell yes, I think Zito says no.

- The Law


Has Larsson fallen that far?

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 23 @ 2:46 PM ET
And I kinda threw him out as a joke b/c Leaf fans quickly determined he sucked. We boo'd him right outta town whereupon he went on to help Detroit win 2 Cups.

I bet the last "real Leaf" elite top pairing RHD was Tim Horton. Wedgie and these older buggers would know better than me.

I've been watching hockey for 40 years and until Babcock showed up I had barely ever heard reference to the RH v LH debate.

Salming-Boschman 70's
80's sucked ass
Gill-Ellett 90's
Kaberle-McCabe 00's

All lefties.

- The Law


Bryan Berard would have gone on to do great things if he didn't suffer that horrific eye injury.
Yushkevich and Markov were solid
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 23 @ 2:47 PM ET
Lefty.
- The Law

yup

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 23 @ 2:48 PM ET
Severson - I say hell yes, Jersey says (frank) no.

Larsson - ya, I think so, right? Might line up for both sides.

Manson - uggh touch call on losing that 15th in a great draft. Can I make it the 21' first?

Weegar - I say hell yes, Zito says no.

Ekblad - I say hell yes, I think Zito says no.

- The Law



Severson, Larsson, Weegar would all be nice to have.. Larsson's value took a hit just by being in Edmonton.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 23 @ 2:48 PM ET
And I kinda threw him out as a joke b/c Leaf fans quickly determined he sucked. We boo'd him right outta town whereupon he went on to help Detroit win 2 Cups.

I bet the last "real Leaf" elite top pairing RHD was Tim Horton. Wedgie and these older buggers would know better than me.

I've been watching hockey for 40 years and until Babcock showed up I had barely ever heard reference to the RH v LH debate.

Salming-Boschman 70's
80's sucked ass
Gill-Ellett 90's
Kaberle-McCabe 00's

All lefties.

- The Law



probably one of those things where people noticed a market inefficiency, its better to play proper D on each side...but its swung so far the other way now...teams can play a LHD and win a cup still. Vegas is mostly LH

Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Muzzin might be superior to Seth Jones - James Tanner, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 23 @ 2:49 PM ET
I'd take a flyer on Bozak as the #3 C.

He'd look good in the Leafs jersey. People already been busy photoshopping his head onto a Leafs jersey:


- TheMussel


The return of Blowzak?

Count me in!
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 23 @ 2:49 PM ET
Has Larsson fallen that far?
- Leafs43


Honestly I'd be guessing. I know there's a lot of interweb hate for his game. He's got one year left but agree with the response in the article ...Oilers don't do it for the simple fact that it ends up looking like Hall for Johnsson.

They probably just ride him out and let him walk if Johnsson is the best offer.

The Oilers need the help on the blue line as it is.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Sep 23 @ 2:49 PM ET
yup

- 21peter

senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 23 @ 2:49 PM ET
Severson - I say hell yes, Jersey says (frank) no.

Larsson - ya, I think so, right? Might line up for both sides.

Manson - uggh touch call on losing that 15th in a great draft. Can I make it the 21' first?

Weegar - I say hell yes, Zito says no.

Ekblad - I say hell yes, I think Zito says no.

- The Law



sign AP, trade for weegar...win cup
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 23 @ 2:50 PM ET
Has Larsson fallen that far?
- Leafs43


or maybe he was never that high in the first place
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 23 @ 2:51 PM ET
And I kinda threw him out as a joke b/c Leaf fans quickly determined he sucked. We boo'd him right outta town whereupon he went on to help Detroit win 2 Cups.

I bet the last "real Leaf" elite top pairing RHD was Tim Horton. Wedgie and these older buggers would know better than me.

I've been watching hockey for 40 years and until Babcock showed up I had barely ever heard reference to the RH v LH debate.

Salming-Boschman 70's
80's sucked ass
Gill-Ellett 90's
Kaberle-McCabe 00's

All lefties.

- The Law

I'm just a wee bit too young to remember Horton as a Leaf.

Weirdly, I do remember when he died.

I've been wracking my brain trying to figure out the last good RD for the Leafs. I'm drawing a blank.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 23 @ 2:53 PM ET
Bryan Berard would have gone on to do great things if he didn't suffer that horrific eye injury.
Yushkevich and Markov were solid

- PatC80

About a week before his injury, Pat Quinn called him "a work in progress."

I love the guy for coming back to hockey (it cost him a lot of money in insurance payout), but he was a bit of a trainwreck in his own end.

Like every other franking Leafs defenceman in my lifetime.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 23 @ 2:53 PM ET
sign AP, trade for weegar...win cup
- senstroll


Love it ...

But that's alot of cap space in ...
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 23 @ 2:55 PM ET
I'm just a wee bit too young to remember Horton as a Leaf.

Weirdly, I do remember when he died.

I've been wracking my brain trying to figure out the last good RD for the Leafs. I'm drawing a blank.

- Atomic Wedgie


Yushkevich might be the closest thing. He was really solid.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: He's a less intelligent Yakupov.
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 23 @ 2:55 PM ET
I'm just a wee bit too young to remember Horton as a Leaf.

Weirdly, I do remember when he died.

I've been wracking my brain trying to figure out the last good RD for the Leafs. I'm drawing a blank.

- Atomic Wedgie



Kubina? It’s a very low bar.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Trump? He was just a coffee boy. None of us knew him., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 23 @ 2:57 PM ET
Love it ...

But that's alot of cap space in ...

- The Law



I thought wet weren't worrying about that
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: He's a less intelligent Yakupov.
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 23 @ 2:57 PM ET
Rielly-Dermott
Sandin-Pietrangelo
Muzzin-Holl


Loving this.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 23 @ 2:57 PM ET
About a week before his injury, Pat Quinn called him "a work in progress."

I love the guy for coming back to hockey (it cost him a lot of money in insurance payout), but he was a bit of a trainwreck in his own end.

Like every other franking Leafs defenceman in my lifetime.

- Atomic Wedgie


Berard was still developing though, he had a lot of potential.. It was too bad that it was cut short.. I do respect that he tried to come back to hockey, he just was never the same.
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