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21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 23 @ 2:57 PM ET

- gergeswillems

yeah, not the Leafs' finest hour...
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Sep 23 @ 2:58 PM ET
or maybe he was never that high in the first place
- senstroll


I distinctly remember his draft year he was a possibility for #1 overall. Comparisons to Lidstrom (Although every Swedish defenseman is compared to Lidstrom) Eventually traded for Taylor Hall straight up.

I think his career mirrors Seth Jones pretty well - with the exception of the fact that Seth Jones became a #1 defenseman and Adam Larsson is a...4?


PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 23 @ 2:59 PM ET
Rielly-Dermott
Sandin-Pietrangelo
Muzzin-Holl


Loving this.

- Steven_Seagull


Muzzin-Pietrangelo
Rielly-Pesce
Sandin-Holl/Lehtonen/Liljegren
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: He's a less intelligent Yakupov.
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 23 @ 3:00 PM ET
Muzzin-Pietrangelo
Rielly-Pesce
Sandin-Holl/Lehtonen/Liljegren

- PatC80



Mine’s realistic
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Trump? He was just a coffee boy. None of us knew him., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 23 @ 3:01 PM ET
Muzzin-Pietrangelo
Rielly-Pesce
Sandin-Holl/Lehtonen/Liljegren

- PatC80



you know I've completely given up on you
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 23 @ 3:02 PM ET
Kubina? It’s a very low bar.
- Steven_Seagull


Ah the memories. Let me drop a quick Roger on you ....

I remember debating with The Law Sr. that summer of 2006. Leafs need to add a D that can skate and move the puck he said. He liked that Kubina guy.

I wanted some more violence ..someone that could clean up our zone. I liked that Chara guy.

I remind my Dad of that one as often as possible.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 23 @ 3:04 PM ET
Ottawa is not going to offer Craig Anderson a contract..

Maybe we should change plans and go with an Andersen and Anderson 1A/1B tandem..
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 23 @ 3:04 PM ET
you know I've completely given up on you
- Canada Cup


thanks... What took so long?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 23 @ 3:05 PM ET
Mine’s realistic
- Steven_Seagull


Yeah but mine is a dream scenario, so..... yeah..
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 23 @ 3:05 PM ET
Muzzin-Pietrangelo
Rielly-Pesce
Sandin-Holl/Lehtonen/Liljegren

- PatC80


You are racking up the points for persistence. Nothing more though.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 23 @ 3:06 PM ET
yeah, not the Leafs' finest hour...
- 21peter

I don't have a problem with Salming as a Red Wing - it was a favour to him.

Here's what I have a problem with:

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 23 @ 3:07 PM ET
You are racking up the points for persistence. Nothing more though.
- The Law


Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 23 @ 3:08 PM ET
Do we trade a 2nd for Petro's rights to bring his cap hit down 1M and sign him until 38?

I'll split that question up a bit.

One scenario has 7 years of a NMC and zero trade protection and only 3-4M of actual dollars on last year.

The other has full NMC the whole contract.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 23 @ 3:09 PM ET
Do we trade a 2nd for Petro's rights to bring his cap hit down 1M and sign him until 38?

I'll split that question up a bit.

One scenario has 7 years of a NMC and zero trade protection and only 3-4M of actual dollars on last year.

The other has full NMC the whole contract.

- Santo_44

That wouldn't work.

The only way the Leafs could get him on an 8-year deal would be for him to sign a contract with the Blues, and then be traded to the Leafs.

For several reasons, I don't think that is realistic.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Sep 23 @ 3:09 PM ET
Ah the memories. Let me drop a quick Roger on you ....

I remember debating with The Law Sr. that summer of 2006. Leafs need to add a D that can skate and move the puck he said. He liked that Kubina guy.

I wanted some more violence ..someone that could clean up our zone. I liked that Chara guy.

I remind my Dad of that one as often as possible.

- The Law

This reminds me of a conversation I once had with a buddy of mine who's a Colts fan. I said they should draft a kid named Peyton Manning with the #1 pick. He wanted a kid named Ryan Leaf. I still remind him of this literally every time we talk.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 23 @ 3:09 PM ET
Do we trade a 2nd for Petro's rights to bring his cap hit down 1M and sign him until 38?

I'll split that question up a bit.

One scenario has 7 years of a NMC and zero trade protection and only 3-4M of actual dollars on last year.

The other has full NMC the whole contract.

- Santo_44



a 2nd feels steep

how about a 6th
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: He's a less intelligent Yakupov.
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 23 @ 3:10 PM ET
Do we trade a 2nd for Petro's rights to bring his cap hit down 1M and sign him until 38?

I'll split that question up a bit.

One scenario has 7 years of a NMC and zero trade protection and only 3-4M of actual dollars on last year.

The other has full NMC the whole contract.

- Santo_44



Leafs can’t give him an 8 year contract (even if they traded for his rights).
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: He's a less intelligent Yakupov.
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 23 @ 3:10 PM ET
This reminds me of a conversation I once had with a buddy of mine who's a Colts fan. I said they should draft a kid named Peyton Manning with the #1 pick. He wanted a kid named Ryan Leaf. I still remind him of this literally every time we talk.
- gergeswillems



Ryan Leaf.... fitting.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 23 @ 3:11 PM ET
Leafs can’t give him an 8 year contract (even if they traded for his rights).
- Steven_Seagull

Sign and trade
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: He's a less intelligent Yakupov.
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 23 @ 3:11 PM ET
Sign and trade
- Santo_44



Deal
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 23 @ 3:11 PM ET
a 2nd feels steep

how about a 6th

- senstroll

Habs gave CAR a 5th for Edmundson


it would be a sign and trade, not just getting rights

Would cost more
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 23 @ 3:12 PM ET
That wouldn't work.

The only way the Leafs could get him on an 8-year deal would be for him to sign a contract with the Blues, and then be traded to the Leafs.

For several reasons, I don't think that is realistic.

- Atomic Wedgie


Why?

If Petro gets what he cant have with the Blues? and The Blues get some comp for it?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 23 @ 3:13 PM ET
I don't have a problem with Salming as a Red Wing - it was a favour to him.

Here's what I have a problem with:


- Atomic Wedgie



As a young kid, I had a problem with this one;


Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 23 @ 3:14 PM ET
Why?

If Petro gets what he cant have with the Blues? and The Blues get some comp for it?

- Santo_44

Sign and trades just simply don't happen in the NHL.

I could guess at a few reasons why, but at the end of the day, we are back where we started:

Sign and trades just simply don't happen in the NHL.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 23 @ 3:15 PM ET
As a young kid, I had a problem with this one;



- PatC80

Why?

Were you a Flyers fan?
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