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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 23 @ 2:05 PM ET
I wonder what we could get for Petts? and from who
- TheGame316


I would imagine a 3C, but as far which one I don't even know where to start.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 23 @ 2:10 PM ET
You know RW is working on some seriously whacko blog right now.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Sep 23 @ 2:11 PM ET
I would imagine a 3C, but as far which one I don't even know where to start.
- Rinosaur


I'd rather not trade Pettersson but if he nets an above average 3C... we should still be fine on defense. Marino can elevate his partner.

I mean no matter who we would get... we basically got for Daniel Sprong haha.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Sep 23 @ 2:12 PM ET
You know RW is working on some seriously whacko blog right now.
- Rinosaur


Funny, because he hated Chris Tanev for not having a pulse offensively, and he has openly criticized Horn's contract due to age, deployment and durability, but here comes Matheson with some speed, offensive ability, but has a long contract and *some* of his stats aren't flattering

I'm actually torn on which way the blog will break
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 23 @ 2:13 PM ET
I'd rather not trade Pettersson but if he nets an above average 3C... we should still be fine on defense. Marino can elevate his partner.

I mean no matter who we would get... we basically got for Daniel Sprong haha.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


Maybe he will have a breakout year in Washington 😂
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Sep 23 @ 2:13 PM ET
You know RW is working on some seriously whacko blog right now.
- Rinosaur


Oh yea, definitely ready to cherry pick all of Matheson's poor metrics and ignore the positive ones. Then will say Rutherford has no idea what to look for in defenseman...when Matheson is fast and can score goals.... after just female doging that we need to stay away from defensive defenseman
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 23 @ 2:13 PM ET
Funny, because he hated Chris Tanev for not having a pulse offensively, and he has openly criticized Horn's contract due to age, deployment and durability, but here comes Matheson with some speed, offensive ability, but has a long contract

I'm actually torn on which way the blog will break

- TheGame316


It's going to be centered around the money spent on JJ and adding Matheson on top of it.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 23 @ 2:14 PM ET
Funny, because he hated Chris Tanev for not having a pulse offensively, and he has openly criticized Horn's contract due to age, deployment and durability, but here comes Matheson with some speed, offensive ability, but has a long contract

I'm actually torn on which way the blog will break

- TheGame316



Horny for Matheson or horny for tanev’s rights knowing a deal is 100%??
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 23 @ 2:14 PM ET
I'd rather not trade Pettersson but if he nets an above average 3C... we should still be fine on defense. Marino can elevate his partner.

I mean no matter who we would get... we basically got for Daniel Sprong haha.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


I would rather not trade him either, but logical next step would be to move him, well logical in Rutherford land.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 23 @ 2:16 PM ET
Horny for Matheson or horny for tanev’s rights knowing a deal is 100%??
- 10inchTerror


Do you want oral herpes or genital herpes?
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Washington, DC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Sep 23 @ 2:18 PM ET
Funny, because he hated Chris Tanev for not having a pulse offensively, and he has openly criticized Horn's contract due to age, deployment and durability, but here comes Matheson with some speed, offensive ability, but has a long contract and *some* of his stats aren't flattering

I'm actually torn on which way the blog will break

- TheGame316

He was on twitter ripping the trade, and in general he’s right. Hornqvist is a devaluing asset with a bad contract but the whole point of offloading Hornqvist is to recoup cap space. He’s still a pretty good hockey player for the time being. This trade probably worsens our on ice product and doesn’t bring back enough cap to justify it. Only like $400k in savings. Not even an AHL call up.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 23 @ 2:19 PM ET
Found this tidbit on Twitter....they have different roles and different positions obviously but one was effecting the 5 on 5 on ice product much worse than the other last year...




Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 23 @ 2:20 PM ET
When looking at potential landing spots for Pettersson, none of those teams have a 3C worthwhile.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 23 @ 2:24 PM ET
Mehness...much, much mehness on this one...


TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Sep 23 @ 2:24 PM ET
He was on twitter ripping the trade, and in general he’s right. Hornqvist is a devaluing asset with a bad contract but the whole point of offloading Hornqvist is to recoup cap space. He’s still a pretty good hockey player for the time being. This trade probably worsens our on ice product and doesn’t bring back enough cap to justify it. Only like $400k in savings. Not even an AHL call up.
- Victoro311


I don't think it's possible to simply offload Horn for capspace without retaining like we did with Bjugstad, or taking back another contract. Not in a world with a flat cap and Horn coming off 2 declining seasons
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 23 @ 2:27 PM ET
Horns

Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Washington, DC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Sep 23 @ 2:32 PM ET
I don't think it's possible to simply offload Horn for capspace without retaining like we did with Bjugstad, or taking back another contract. Not in a world with a flat cap and Horn coming off 2 declining seasons
- TheGame316

That’s fair which is why I thought Hornqvist would stay. But if you’re gonna trade him, cap should be retained in a way that you still save a not insignificant cap Figure (we saved like $2.1 mil in the Bjugstad trade) or in a package for a similarly underwhelming player that could be more useful. I think Rutherford tried to go the second rout but whiffed on his target. I don’t think Matheson is more useful to this team than Hornqvist.
redseerpf
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.14.2019

Sep 23 @ 2:34 PM ET
When looking at potential landing spots for Pettersson, none of those teams have a 3C worthwhile.
- Rinosaur


Pettersson 1 mil retained vs Mark Jankowski and Oliver Kylington?

Jankowski had a terrible year in 2020, but he's an excellent PKer and can score 15 goals in the right environment.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 23 @ 2:37 PM ET
Pettersson 1 mil retained vs Mark Jankowski and Oliver Kylington?

Jankowski had a terrible year in 2020, but he's an excellent PKer and can score 15 goals in the right environment.

- redseerpf


Wouldn’t be looking at taking a LD back though
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 23 @ 2:41 PM ET

Elliotte Friedman
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It appears as if the Hornqvist/Matheson deal is being held up due to an insurance issue — the ability to fully insure contracts against injury.
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: JTISAPOS, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Sep 23 @ 2:42 PM ET
It's going to be centered around the money spent on JJ and adding Matheson on top of it.
- Rinosaur



Everything RW writes resolves around JJ!
pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: BC
Joined: 10.01.2013

Sep 23 @ 2:43 PM ET
Let’s get the tableau graph posted of matheson vs pettersson! Pettersson even had a great partner in Marino and time with the top 2 forward lines to play with. Someone post it!
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 23 @ 2:44 PM ET
It's going to be centered around the money spent on JJ and adding Matheson on top of it.
- Rinosaur

Matheson will put PIT as the 5th most expensive blue line
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 23 @ 2:45 PM ET
Let’s get the tableau graph posted of matheson vs pettersson! Pettersson even had a great partner in Marino and time with the top 2 forward lines to play with. Someone post it!
- pens4life-66



MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 23 @ 2:47 PM ET
Let’s get the tableau graph posted of matheson vs pettersson! Pettersson even had a great partner in Marino and time with the top 2 forward lines to play with. Someone post it!
- pens4life-66



1st one I posted was last season


This is for the last 3 seasons

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