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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 23 @ 2:47 PM ET

- MattStrat

One is a defenseman and one is a winger moonlighting as a defenseman.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 23 @ 2:47 PM ET

- MattStrat


So exact opposites of each other?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 23 @ 2:48 PM ET
https://www.google.com/am...e-matheson-liability/amp/
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Sep 23 @ 2:48 PM ET
Guentzal filled the net front role fine
- kfinl170

When Guentzel was on the PP without Hornqvist in front, they scored 4.69 goals per 60.

When Hornqvist was on the PP, they scored twice as often at 9.33 goals per 60.

Guentzel is a wonderful player, but he's not a net front guy. (Did real well replacing Crosby for a stretch.) The goal should not be to cut our PP production in half.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 23 @ 2:49 PM ET
One is a defenseman and one is a winger moonlighting as a defenseman.
- Feds91Stammer


The "relative to teammates" section...would that just be D-men in this case? or all skaters?
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Sep 23 @ 2:49 PM ET
One is a defenseman and one is a winger moonlighting as a defenseman.
- Feds91Stammer


Maybe Matheson replaces Horn as the winger on the 3rd line??

3D Chess, Dominoes, Armageddon, GMJR for President, #MPPGA
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 23 @ 2:51 PM ET
Maybe Matheson replaces Horn as the winger on the 3rd line??

3D Chess, Dominoes, Armageddon, GMJR for President, #MPPGA

- TheGame316

Matheson did play forward last season at times.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 23 @ 2:51 PM ET
Pettersson 1 mil retained vs Mark Jankowski and Oliver Kylington?

Jankowski had a terrible year in 2020, but he's an excellent PKer and can score 15 goals in the right environment.

- redseerpf


The Pens need a proven 3C or 3rd line LW. This guy barely held down the 4th line LW spot on your team. I can appreciate he might need the right environment, but Pens need proven at the moment, especially if they're giving up Pettersson.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 23 @ 2:52 PM ET
https://www.google.com/amp/s/puckprose.com/2020/08/04/florida-panthers-mike-matheson-liability/amp/
- Feds91Stammer


Pretty damning opinion piece... on someone in a best 3 out of 5 series sample size in a bubble after a 6 month lay off in Covid times.

I'm not gonna judge him on that play in round performance. His stats before that weren't so hot anyways, however hahah

Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 23 @ 2:52 PM ET
Matheson did play forward last season at times.
- Feds91Stammer


So where did you get that other mumbo jumbo trade you said earlier?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 23 @ 2:52 PM ET
The "relative to teammates" section...would that just be D-men in this case? or all skaters?
- MattStrat

Relative to how the team performs when you are off the ice. It can be a flawed stat if you’re a depth player on a stacked team. But generally if it’s bad it means your team is better off without you playing.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 23 @ 2:53 PM ET
So where did you get that other mumbo jumbo trade you said earlier?
- Rinosaur

Made it up. Trying to stir it up around here lol.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 23 @ 2:54 PM ET
Pretty damning opinion piece... on someone in a best 3 out of 5 series sample size in a bubble after a 6 month lay off in Covid times.

I'm not gonna judge him on that play in round performance. His stats before that weren't so hot anyways, however hahah

- MattStrat

Keep in mind he was moved to forward and health bombed earlier in the season.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 23 @ 2:54 PM ET
Relative to how the team performs when you are off the ice. It can be a flawed stat if you’re a depth player on a stacked team. But generally if it’s bad it means your team is better off without you playing.
- Feds91Stammer


Ok. If it was strictly related to the D I could see Petts relative stats being much better than Schultz, JJ, Trotman, Rikky or Rhud.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 23 @ 2:55 PM ET
Keep in mind he was moved to forward and health bombed earlier in the season.
- Feds91Stammer



I didnt know that at all.

I wish he was acquired to be a LW...have my doubts.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 23 @ 3:03 PM ET
I didnt know that at all.

I wish he was acquired to be a LW...have my doubts.

- MattStrat

All I know is I get strong JJ vibes. Go look at JJs 2013-16 stuff on the warrior chart from domenic galaminis tableau.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 23 @ 3:05 PM ET
Funny, because he hated Chris Tanev for not having a pulse offensively, and he has openly criticized Horn's contract due to age, deployment and durability, but here comes Matheson with some speed, offensive ability, but has a long contract and *some* of his stats aren't flattering

I'm actually torn on which way the blog will break

- TheGame316


The blog will obviously mention JJ being on the roster still. Book it Dano.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 23 @ 3:06 PM ET
All I know is I get strong JJ vibes. Go look at JJs 2013-16 stuff on the warrior chart from domenic galaminis tableau.
- Feds91Stammer


I think he has more strengths than JJ and potential to turn it around with the Pens, but I say that with very cautious optimism. Regardless it is a bad move. The contract is atrocious and likely means we move a better more capable dman out.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 23 @ 3:08 PM ET
The blog will obviously mention JJ being on the roster still. Book it Dano.
- j.boyd919


Literally what a said a page or two ago. It's going to be about the money spent on two 3rd pairing dmen on the same roster.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Sep 23 @ 3:11 PM ET
so its an insurance issue... im so shocked that kingerski was wrong

how the hell does that guy have actual subscribers? every article he writes is an even more cringeworthy attempt to make himself relevant.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Sep 23 @ 3:11 PM ET
The blog will obviously mention JJ being on the roster still. Book it Dano.
- j.boyd919


Pens are getting Marko Dano?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 23 @ 3:12 PM ET
so its an insurance issue... im so shocked that kingerski was wrong

how the hell does that guy have actual subscribers? every article he writes is an even more cringeworthy attempt to make himself relevant.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


I said this earlier; he's the JJ of the rumor world. He's so absurdly bad at this job. I can't count the misinformation he's spread over the years about rumors.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Sep 23 @ 3:16 PM ET
Pens are getting Marko Dano?
- drummer829


MarkoDano for 3C confirmed

simon dano mccann wow
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Sep 23 @ 3:22 PM ET
so its an insurance issue... im so shocked that kingerski was wrong

how the hell does that guy have actual subscribers? every article he writes is an even more cringeworthy attempt to make himself relevant.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


Theres some kind of thing where teams can only have so many insured contracts. Thats was the hangup with Nathan Horton and why the Blue Jackets sent him to Toronto and the Leafs basically paid out that contract on LTIR
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 23 @ 3:22 PM ET
I hope the Pens keep Kovy on their radar. After all this shakes out they are going to need the most bang for their buck on the 3rd line. Kovy($1M)-McCann-Spend the rest here
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