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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 23 @ 9:01 AM ET
You should care about the dollar amounts.
- Feds91Stammer


Meh, not if there's a good on ice product that delivers....if so, I dont give a sh!t what anyone is paid. Problem is sh!tty players are being paid too much....so really, I do give a F about the dollar amounts hahaha

Im gonna grab a second coffee this morning....try and wake up
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 23 @ 9:12 AM ET
Meh, not if there's a good on ice product that delivers....if so, I dont give a sh!t what anyone is paid. Problem is sh!tty players are being paid too much....so really, I do give a F about the dollar amounts hahaha

Im gonna grab a second coffee this morning....try and wake up

- MattStrat

Yeah you definitely care. You’re just trying to be nice. Silly Canadians.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Sep 23 @ 9:21 AM ET
I like Chris Tanev's game but no way I'd sign him if we still have Jacko on the roster....and honestly I wouldn't go above 3 years of contract.
MisterBrown
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.10.2020

Sep 23 @ 9:27 AM ET
haha.... i hope Tanev gets his rights traded to the leafs and they sign him instead, but with those numbers analytics nutcase Dubas won't go near him i imagine...
MisterBrown
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.10.2020

Sep 23 @ 9:28 AM ET
I like Chris Tanev's game but no way I'd sign him if we still have Jacko on the roster....and honestly I wouldn't go above 3 years of contract.
- Barnaby36

Maybe they think he can 'fix' JJ?
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 23 @ 9:33 AM ET
Yeah you definitely care. You’re just trying to be nice. Silly Canadians.
- Feds91Stammer



hahaha

Its kind of a catch 22, really.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Sep 23 @ 9:34 AM ET
See, personally I dont really care about dollar amounts for anyone if the on ice product is good and works more often than not. JJ greatly hinders that no matter what else is done though. In my mind I just cant see JR having a 8+ mill 3rd pair again in times like these. Ive been wrong before though...
- MattStrat

Plot twist, the plan is actually to put Tanev on the 2nd pair and reunite JJ-Marino since Marino was the right partner for JJ.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 23 @ 9:40 AM ET
Plot twist, the plan is actually to put Tanev on the 2nd pair and reunite JJ-Marino since Marino was the right partner for JJ.
- Tojo.

Double plot twist. The JJ - Marino unit will actually be the 2nd pair.
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Sergachev's illegitimate son., FL
Joined: 01.29.2013

Sep 23 @ 9:44 AM ET
Rutherford sounds like the GM version of Melnyk - has no business being in this sport at that level.

It's is unimaginable that a GM could take a roster with Crosby, Malkin, and Letang, and then screw it up. He is wasting the competitive years those players have remaining.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 23 @ 9:45 AM ET
Double plot twist. The JJ - Marino unit will actually be the 2nd pair.
- Feds91Stammer


Don't think that hasn't crossed my mind and probably the minds of Sully and GR.

I could totally see Marino getting JJ'd.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Sep 23 @ 9:48 AM ET
So aside from possibly no fans, what will happen with the ahl? What happens to a team like Pitt that will be missing 4-5+ players at a single time. Can Poulin or Légaré go to Europe as I’d assume missing a year of hockey will be a hindrance on their development. Won’t somebody please think of the children.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 23 @ 9:50 AM ET
Rutherford sounds like the GM version of Melnyk - has no business being in this sport at that level.

It's is unimaginable that a GM could take a roster with Crosby, Malkin, and Letang, and then screw it up. He is wasting the competitive years those players have remaining.

- GalacticStone


Yohe did his mailbag today and when ask about JR's future with the Pens he basically said JR's job is safe and will likely never be shown the door. Yohe had conversations with Moorehouse about JR and Moorehouse thinks the world of him and told by many that Mario thinks he's the perfect GM for the Pens.

Other tidbits are he feels that JJ and JR have a close relationship/friendship and that's likely why he's not getting moved.

Sorry to piss in everyone's cheerios.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 23 @ 9:51 AM ET
Rutherford sounds like the GM version of Melnyk - has no business being in this sport at that level.

It's is unimaginable that a GM could take a roster with Crosby, Malkin, and Letang, and then screw it up. He is wasting the competitive years those players have remaining.

- GalacticStone

Horrible take which is very on brand for you.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 23 @ 9:51 AM ET
So aside from possibly no fans, what will happen with the ahl? What happens to a team like Pitt that will be missing 4-5+ players at a single time. Can Poulin or Légaré go to Europe as I’d assume missing a year of hockey will be a hindrance on their development. Won’t somebody please think of the children.
- 10inchTerror

Yes. Many prospects have already joined European leagues.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 23 @ 10:13 AM ET
Plot twist, the plan is actually to put Tanev on the 2nd pair and reunite JJ-Marino since Marino was the right partner for JJ.
- Tojo.



Ugh. Not that far fetched. In this case though he'd have a 4.175 mill cap hit 2nd pair and a potentially 6+ mill 3rd pair, to go along with the 11.35 mill 1st pair. Its all too much for the D, especially for what that corps would bring.

Wonder how that 21.53ish mill cap hit on the 6 starting D would compare to others teams' 6...
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Washington, DC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Sep 23 @ 10:31 AM ET
Yohe did his mailbag today and when ask about JR's future with the Pens he basically said JR's job is safe and will likely never be shown the door. Yohe had conversations with Moorehouse about JR and Moorehouse thinks the world of him and told by many that Mario thinks he's the perfect GM for the Pens.

Other tidbits are he feels that JJ and JR have a close relationship/friendship and that's likely why he's not getting moved.

Sorry to piss in everyone's cheerios.

- Rinosaur

I think we all knew this so no big deal to me.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 23 @ 10:32 AM ET
I guess what I need clarity on is "NHL ready player" in terms of what JR's ask is for Rust. Does that mean a player still on their ELC ready to play or does that simply mean roster player? This makes a significant difference it terms of what room JR has to work with.

If Jarry is going to make closer to $4M which is what Rossi reported as likely and the Pens re-sign at least ONE rfa forward, which they need to do, the only way this works financially is if the player coming back in a Rust trade is making less than $950K.

I put together the armchair GM. Disregard the team/return for Rust and Murray. I'm doing it simply for cap purposes.

https://www.capfriendly.c.../armchair-gm/team/1945156

Bringing in Tanev just destroys the Pens bottom six and I have him at $4M in this.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 23 @ 11:00 AM ET
After doing my armchair the only way he can fit Tanev in at $5M is moving other another player in addition to Rust. With Tanev at $4M they only have room for B.Tanev, ZAR, Blue, McCann, Lafferty and Simon to fill the bottom-six.

He's going to have to blow this team up to get Tanev. The only way this works for JR without any further detriment to the lineup than moving Rust is signing Tanev to less than $4M which doesn't seem likely.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Sep 23 @ 11:15 AM ET
Safe to say Chris Tanev will be a Penguin. Book it.

Hope we shed some salary sending Jacko or Horny away.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 23 @ 11:19 AM ET
Safe to say Chris Tanev will be a Penguin. Book it.

Hope we shed some salary sending Jacko or Horny away.

- Barnaby36


Well the point of bringing in Tanev or any perceived upgrade to the 3rd pair RD is to back up JR's claim JJ just needs the right partner, so JJ ain't goin nowhere.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Sep 23 @ 11:19 AM ET
Kevin Weekes saying we traded Horny to the Panthers for Mike Matheson
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Sep 23 @ 11:21 AM ET
Kevin Weekes saying we traded Horny to the Panthers for Mike Matheson
- SuperHenderson13

Love Mike Matheson if this is true. Awesome trade.
iworkatinitech
Joined: 11.12.2014

Sep 23 @ 11:23 AM ET
I give up! JR trades Hornqvist for Matheson and will now look to get C Tanev, why bother icing a team at this rate?
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Sep 23 @ 11:23 AM ET
Love Mike Matheson if this is true. Awesome trade.
- Barnaby36

Dont know much about him. It looks like he a LHD... so that means I think Pettersson is being shopped. You cannot have Dumo/Pettersson/Johnson/Rikkola/Matheson on the left side. Something has to give.

The thing that caught my eye more was that he is signed for $4.875M until 2026 with a Modified No Trade Clause kicking in at the end of the 2022 season.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 23 @ 11:24 AM ET
LOL exactly how I feel. Madden's act does nothing for me, but I listen to him all the time anyways because I know it's always a lot of hockey talk.
- Tojo.


I’d rather repeatedly stab my ears with a dull butter knife than listen to Madden.
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