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Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Sep 23 @ 11:24 AM ET
Kevin Weekes saying we traded Horny to the Panthers for Mike Matheson
- SuperHenderson13

Give us more specifics please. Matheson is a good D man with a cheaper salary than Hörny.
iworkatinitech
Joined: 11.12.2014

Sep 23 @ 11:24 AM ET
Dont know much about him. It looks like he a LHD... so that means I think Pettersson is being shopped. You cannot have Dumo/Pettersson/Johnson/Rikkola/Matheson on the left side. Something has to give.

The thing that caught my eye more was that he is signed for $4.875M until 2026 with a Modified No Trade Clause kicking in at the end of the 2022 season.

- SuperHenderson13

It’s that last part that just makes this a fireable offense imo
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Sep 23 @ 11:25 AM ET
Dont know much about him. It looks like he a LHD... so that means I think Pettersson is being shopped. You cannot have Dumo/Pettersson/Johnson/Rikkola/Matheson on the left side. Something has to give.

The thing that caught my eye more was that he is signed for $4.875M until 2026 with a Modified No Trade Clause kicking in at the end of the 2022 season.

- SuperHenderson13

Matheson is pretty good. Not a bad trade. Hopefully we're getting rid of Jacko to make this deal have any sense.

Thanks for everything Hörnqvist. You were a good Penguin.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 23 @ 11:27 AM ET
Rutherford sounds like the GM version of Melnyk - has no business being in this sport at that level.

It's is unimaginable that a GM could take a roster with Crosby, Malkin, and Letang, and then screw it up. He is wasting the competitive years those players have remaining.

- GalacticStone


To be fair... he won 2 cups with them so he didn’t necessarily waste all of their years. Gotta give credit where it’s due. But in the last few years he’s been a gunslinger tradesman and has been slinging for dog poop.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 23 @ 11:27 AM ET
If this poop is true. Say goodbye to Pettersson or Dumo.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 23 @ 11:28 AM ET
Matheson is pretty good. Not a bad trade. Hopefully we're getting rid of Jacko to make this deal have any sense.

Thanks for everything Hörnqvist. You were a good Penguin.

- Barnaby36


Dude, give it up. JJ isn't getting moved. He'll play Matheson on his off-side to play with JJ before moving him.
MaximumBone
Seattle Kraken
Location: Look at how erect McDavid is- BB
Joined: 06.15.2012

Sep 23 @ 11:31 AM ET
Give us more specifics please. Matheson is a good D man with a cheaper salary than Hörny.
- Barnaby36

6 more years for Matheson, though For a guy that isn't really... good.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Sep 23 @ 11:33 AM ET
Only other thing would be if he is planning on flipping Matheson. Matheson has not NTC/NMC currently compared to Horny's NTC.

No way you can start the season with Matheson, Johnson, and Pettersson.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Sep 23 @ 11:34 AM ET
6 more years for Matheson, though For a guy that isn't really... good.
- MaximumBone

I know the cap will be flat for the next year at least, but if the cap returns to a normal inflation rate within 2 years, by the time 2026 rolls around, $4.8M wont be unreasonable.... but yea, generally not a fan of signing a guy that long, especially for a guy like Matheson who hasnt been the most reliable.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Sep 23 @ 11:35 AM ET
If this poop is true. Say goodbye to Pettersson or Dumo.
- Rinosaur

Nah. We don't need to move them. Jacko will be out of this team somehow.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Sep 23 @ 11:36 AM ET
Rutherford sounds like the GM version of Melnyk - has no business being in this sport at that level.

It's is unimaginable that a GM could take a roster with Crosby, Malkin, and Letang, and then screw it up. He is wasting the competitive years those players have remaining.

- GalacticStone

He is, though part of his legacy here will be that he turned the roster around and won 2 Cups when many people thought they were done.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Sep 23 @ 11:36 AM ET
6 more years for Matheson, though For a guy that isn't really... good.
- MaximumBone

Oh he's pretty decent. I bet he's better than Pettersson whom I think is not a true top 4 Dman.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Sep 23 @ 11:37 AM ET
Only other thing would be if he is planning on flipping Matheson. Matheson has not NTC/NMC currently compared to Horny's NTC.

No way you can start the season with Matheson, Johnson, and Pettersson.

- SuperHenderson13

Johnson will be gone. Bought out, traded attached to Murray or whatever.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 23 @ 11:38 AM ET
Oh he's pretty decent. I bet he's better than Pettersson whom I think is not a true top 4 Dman.
- Barnaby36


What the (frank) hockey do you watch? Hahahahahahaahahaahahaahaha
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 23 @ 11:38 AM ET
Lmao
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 23 @ 11:38 AM ET
Give us more specifics please. Matheson is a good D man with a cheaper salary than Hörny.
- Barnaby36

Matheson sucks.
MaximumBone
Seattle Kraken
Location: Look at how erect McDavid is- BB
Joined: 06.15.2012

Sep 23 @ 11:39 AM ET
I know the cap will be flat for the next year at least, but if the cap returns to a normal inflation rate within 2 years, by the time 2026 rolls around, $4.8M wont be unreasonable.... but yea, generally not a fan of signing a guy that long, especially for a guy like Matheson who hasnt been the most reliable.
- SuperHenderson13

In fairness to Matheson, he seems like an (Correction definitely below average 2nd pairing guy. His struggles from last year were largely a result of playing hard matchup minutes. He's only 26 so maybe he can step it up heading into his prime (ala Petry) but, yeah, term.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 23 @ 11:39 AM ET
Oh he's pretty decent. I bet he's better than Pettersson whom I think is not a true top 4 Dman.
- Barnaby36

Do you know anything about any player?
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Sep 23 @ 11:40 AM ET
What the (frank) hockey do you watch? Hahahahahahaahahaahahaahaha
- j.boyd919

Just my opinion on Pettersson. He's not Top 4 ready.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 23 @ 11:40 AM ET
Johnson will be gone. Bought out, traded attached to Murray or whatever.
- Barnaby36

Nah. JJ just needs a new partner lol.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 23 @ 11:40 AM ET
In fairness to Matheson, he seems like an average 2nd pairing guy- maybe a bit below average. His struggles from last year were largely a result of playing hard matchup minutes. He's only 26 so maybe he can step it up heading into his prime (ala Petry) but, yeah, term.
- MaximumBone


Term and his actual salary his last 3 seasons as well.

https://www.capfriendly.c.../players/michael-matheson
MaximumBone
Seattle Kraken
Location: Look at how erect McDavid is- BB
Joined: 06.15.2012

Sep 23 @ 11:41 AM ET
Term and his actual salary his last 3 seasons as well.

https://www.capfriendly.c.../players/michael-matheson

- kingcong39

Yeah, that's some BIIIIG money
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 23 @ 11:41 AM ET
Just my opinion on Pettersson. He's not Top 4 ready.
- Barnaby36

Hahahahaha
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Sep 23 @ 11:42 AM ET
Do you know anything about any player?
- Feds91Stammer

I do. I know Matheson would be a Top 4 in Detroit. He's not a bad player. We needed something done to our D core. Shake things up. Horny was a $5M+ player playing 3rd line. No speed, no hands but VERY good in front of the net. Just too much $$$ spent on him.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Sep 23 @ 11:42 AM ET
Is Matheson better than Pettersson? Pettersson’s contract isn’t bad. IF this means Johnson is being moved soon, moving Pettersson to the 3rd pairing just solidifies the D corps so much more.

Of course this is only if Johnson is moved.
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