In other words - if I'm stlouis, I would try to convince ap to resign (8y deal) up until the last minute and not provide him with alternatives (8y deal with leafs or another team)

?

His NTC limits who STL can do a sign and trade with. That makes it harder to drive up the cost. Less demand = less cost.
- Canada Cup

Also, if Pietrangelo wants to be a Leaf, he can just sign a 7 yr deal as a UFA

both sides have an argument.

get something or nothing. a stl fan should be annoyed if they could have taken a 4th and end up with nothing
- senstroll

Not sure that St Louis has any reasonable bargaining power in this situation. If they make room to sign him ok, but until that happens, why buy the cow when you get the milk for free?

yeah, im not interested in giving up a 1 or 2 at all... something later than that..or take the chance on him in UFA and 7 years

also, this is all probably just posturing on both sides...he will end up back in stl
- senstroll

Ewww ya wouldn't pay that price. The only gain for the Leafs is about 500-750k of cap space. Would trade a 1st for that.

Ewww ya wouldn't pay that price. The only gain for the Leafs is about 500-750k of cap space. Would trade a 1st for that.
- The Law

It wouldn't be worth it at all.. If that is the ask in this hypothetical situation, I'd rather the Leafs take their chances if/when AP gets to free agency

Ewww ya wouldn't pay that price. The only gain for the Leafs is about 500-750k of cap space. Would trade a 1st for that.
- The Law

Might be the difference is AP staying in STL (bc of the 8y contract) or AP signing in Toronto. It's not just the 750k aav. I am not a big fan of leafs signing AP, but I don't think the 1st would be an overpayment

Might be the difference is AP staying in STL (bc of the 8y contract) or Leafs signing in Toronto. It's not just the 750k aav. I am not a big fan of leafs signing AP, but I don't think the 1st would be an overpayment
- MaximusAurelius

Stl has pick #26
maybe an AP signed 8 year deal to the leafs with #26 for pick 15

Stl has pick #26
maybe an AP signed 8 year deal to the leafs with #26 for pick 15
- senstroll

One can only dream.

Stl has pick #26
maybe an AP signed 8 year deal to the leafs with #26 for pick 15
- senstroll

So the Leafs can draft O’Rourke? Just as MiB predicted.

So the Leafs can draft O’Rourke? Just as MiB predicted.
- Steven_Seagull

so the leafs end up in the trade down a bunch of times range...aka the dubas zone

AP already won a cup, so the 'HUnger to win' is not there 100%

AP already won a cup, so the 'HUnger to win' is not there 100%
- MaximusAurelius

thats why he needs to go to the Leafs, to get the hunger back.

So the Leafs can draft O’Rourke? Just as MiB predicted.
- Steven_Seagull

AP already won a cup, so the 'HUnger to win' is not there 100%
- MaximusAurelius

Alex Pietrangelo would prefer Toronto over St Louis because the Subway cars are covered in raw aluminum instead of enamel paint

Alex Pietrangelo would prefer Toronto over St Louis because the Subway cars are covered in raw aluminum instead of enamel paint
- TheMussel

Alex Pietrangelo would prefer the Leafs over the Blues because Toronto is one word and St. Louis is two words.

Alex Pietrangelo would prefer Toronto over St Louis because the Subway cars are covered in raw aluminum instead of enamel paint
- TheMussel

I've heard from a good source that Pietrangelo's first choice would actually be the Islanders because he's a big fan of Long island ice tea.

You know what the results of that voting tells me? That they're all morons because Lou winning it makes even less sense than Dubas winning it.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Yes they are morons.
but Lou winning makes more sense than dubi winning it for sure.

Dubi
Made a unsuccessful trade that simply back fired. Even though I still understand why it was done and I liked the trade when it occurred.
Traded out Dman Jordan Schmaltz
Acquired Campbell and Clifford - I like this trade.
Team doesnt make playoffs.
D still has holes.

Lou
Signed varlamov
Acquired JG pageau...which turned out pretty good for them in the post season
Traded for Andy Greene
Made it to the conf finals.

Not great accomplishments for either, but clearly one had a better year.

I've heard from a good source that Pietrangelo's first choice would actually be the Islanders because he's a big fan of Long island ice tea.
- Scabeh

And he *loathes* the blues

And he *loathes* the blues
- TheMussel

Makes him sad

Makes him sad
- Canada Cup

Big jazz fan though.

Blues can’t demand that much since AP has a No Trade. They can only deal with someone he’s prepared to move to so that limits the price.
- Canada Cup

If he agrees to an 8 year sign and trade.
that brings up the price.

I've heard from a good source that Pietrangelo's first choice would actually be the Islanders because he's a big fan of Long island ice tea.
- Scabeh

he's excited to get the chance to retire in the new arena once it's finally completed.

Big jazz fan though.
- Scabeh

I hear Dubas has offered two firsts and a second just for the right to say his name

I hear Dubas has offered two firsts and a second just for the right to say his name
- Canada Cup

Sounds like dubi.

Sounds like dubi.
- Fakepartofme

More like Max who thinks STL can demand anything for the rights of a sign and trade