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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Muzzin might be superior to Seth Jones - James Tanner, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 24 @ 3:43 PM ET
By how much really?

8x8.5 instead of 7x9?

$500k in cap savings shouldn't cost the Leafs a 1st or a 2nd rd pick

- PatC80


In Lebrun's article, he mentions the idea like the 8th year would be significantly less costly for the team. Let's say a drop to 4M in salary.

I think it's a flawed logic, I understand the player can only get that 8th year through one team and cannot bank on it elsewhere.... but it wouldn't justify such a big drop in salary.

I think your example is bang on the money of what would happen.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 24 @ 3:44 PM ET
8x6.9
- Steven_Seagull


OMG, that's Nylander territory
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.30.2006

Sep 24 @ 3:49 PM ET
In Lebrun's article, he mentions the idea like the 8th year would be significantly less costly for the team. Let's say a drop to 4M in salary.

I think it's a flawed logic, I understand the player can only get that 8th year through one team and cannot bank on it elsewhere.... but it wouldn't justify such a big drop in salary.

I think your example is bang on the money of what would happen.

- Scabeh



and must signed prior to going to UFA otherwise it's only 7 years.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 24 @ 3:49 PM ET
In Lebrun's article, he mentions the idea like the 8th year would be significantly less costly for the team. Let's say a drop to 4M in salary.

I think it's a flawed logic, I understand the player can only get that 8th year through one team and cannot bank on it elsewhere.... but it wouldn't justify such a big drop in salary.

I think your example is bang on the money of what would happen.

- Scabeh


I saw that too, Lebrun's article didn't make much sense.. There is no real benefit to Pietrangelo to get an 8th year for a drop to $4M in salary.. It could hurt end up hurting him more than helping him..

If he is still healthy and productive after the 7th year, he can sign a new contract for more than the $4M.

I don't see why he would want to help the Blues out, considering that their relationship is reportedly on the rocks right now.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 24 @ 3:49 PM ET
I don't see the 8th year being a deal breaker.. Sign and trades don't happen in the NHL, why would Pietrangelo potentially hurt his new team by making them give up assets to get him...
- PatC80


Neither do I. I was agreeing to the sign Pietrangelo part because it makes complete sense from the Leafs perspective to do so.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 24 @ 3:52 PM ET
Neither do I. I was agreeing to the sign Pietrangelo part because it makes complete sense from the Leafs perspective to do so.
- GreatGigInTheSky


I have no issue with him wanting an 8 year deal, I just hope the cost is a 6th or 7th rd pick... Heck, maybe future considerations
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 24 @ 3:52 PM ET
sure, if the 8th year is a deal breaker, it could help.. How much of a cap savings will it actually be?

Maybe a 6th rd pick, if not a 7th rounder

- PatC80


1M-700K

What’s 8M and the ability to signing Petro worth it to you?

Petro has made it very clear the structure of this contract is very important
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 24 @ 3:53 PM ET
I have no issue with him wanting an 8 year deal, I just hope the cost is a 6th or 7th rd pick... Heck, maybe future considerations
- PatC80


You will be very disappointed

6th and 7th round picks gets you the rights to Dakota Joshua
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 24 @ 3:53 PM ET
So, after 10 pages of an AP sign and trade deal - what's the verdict?
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: He's a less intelligent Yakupov.
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 24 @ 3:55 PM ET
So, after 10 pages of an AP sign and trade deal - what's the verdict?
- 21peter



Sundin is best Swedish forward.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Trump? He was just a coffee boy. None of us knew him., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 24 @ 3:56 PM ET
So, after 10 pages of an AP sign and trade deal - what's the verdict?
- 21peter


The future’s not all it’s cracked up to be
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 24 @ 3:56 PM ET
Sundin is best Swedish forward.
- Steven_Seagull

*flagged
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: He's a less intelligent Yakupov.
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 24 @ 3:57 PM ET
*flagged
- 21peter



Worth it.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 24 @ 3:58 PM ET
1M-700K

What’s 8M and the ability to signing Petro worth it to you?

Petro has made it very clear the structure of this contract is very important

- Santo_44


the Leafs can structure the contract any way he wants. That shouldn't be the issue..
If he wants a 8 yr deal, that's fine but it shouldn't cost the Leafs a lot.
I like the idea of Pietrangelo, but I don't see the need to help the Blues out.

you're gonna give them a 1st, or 2nd rd pick and give them all that cap space..
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Muzzin might be superior to Seth Jones - James Tanner, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 24 @ 3:58 PM ET
The future’s not all it’s cracked up to be
- Canada Cup


And it may be in the past or the present.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Trump? He was just a coffee boy. None of us knew him., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 24 @ 4:00 PM ET
And it may be in the past or the present.
- Scabeh


You can’t get acid flashbacks after 22 years can you?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 24 @ 4:00 PM ET
You will be very disappointed

6th and 7th round picks gets you the rights to Dakota Joshua

- Santo_44


I won't be disappointed... I really would like Pietrangelo to sign with the Leafs.. If the only way to do that is through a sign and trade, I'm ok with that too but not if we lose a 1st rd pick..

Maybe make it a bigger trade?

Like Johnsson, a 6th and Holl (I got your Gigsy) for Pietrangelo
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Sep 24 @ 4:01 PM ET
Worth it.
- Steven_Seagull

I'm in tears
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Muzzin might be superior to Seth Jones - James Tanner, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 24 @ 4:05 PM ET
You can’t get acid flashbacks after 22 years can you?
- Canada Cup


I'll get back to you in 8 years.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Trump? He was just a coffee boy. None of us knew him., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 24 @ 4:05 PM ET
I won't be disappointed... I really would like Pietrangelo to sign with the Leafs.. If the only way to do that is through a sign and trade, I'm ok with that too but not if we lose a 1st rd pick..

Maybe make it a bigger trade?

Like Johnsson, a 6th and Holl (I got your Gigsy) for Pietrangelo

- PatC80


Johnsson is enough. Shed some salary, they get a guy
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Trump? He was just a coffee boy. None of us knew him., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Sep 24 @ 4:06 PM ET
I'll get back to you in 8 years.
- Scabeh



Or we could start the clock over. The world might make sense
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 24 @ 4:07 PM ET
I have no issue with him wanting an 8 year deal, I just hope the cost is a 6th or 7th rd pick... Heck, maybe future considerations
- PatC80


If Pietrangelo and the Blues are as done as it sounds like they are, I think St. Louis is high out of their minds if they think they could/should get a huge return on a sign and trade.

It makes absolutely no sense. At all.

Getting anything at all is already a win for them, really.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 24 @ 4:07 PM ET
You can’t get acid flashbacks after 22 years can you?
- Canada Cup


Nope. Lolol
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 24 @ 4:08 PM ET
Sundin is best Swedish forward.
- Steven_Seagull


PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 24 @ 4:08 PM ET
Johnsson is enough. Shed some salary, they get a guy
- Canada Cup


yeah my thinking exactly. A trade like that would help both teams, Leafs and Blues both shed salary.. Assuming that Pietrangelo wants to be a Leaf and wants to be for 8 years, of course..

Johnsson would be worth it to me.. I added in Holl, because Gigsy
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