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Maverick1818
Ottawa Senators
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.06.2015

Sep 29 @ 8:42 AM ET
Trade proposal:

Ana:

2020 1st round pick (28th)
2020 2nd round pick (dallas)
Chris Tierney
Jaros, Christian



Ott:

2020 1st round pick (6th)
Lindholm, Hampus
Ryan kesler (LTIR)

anaheim is in a big cap crunch. i would love for PD to snatch that 6th overall










- SENS-sational


If I'm Ottawa I'd do that trade all day... I doubt the Ducks would though.

If they did and the players were still available, I'd be picking
#3 Stutzle/Byfield
#5 Drysdale
#6 Rossi
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 29 @ 11:19 AM ET
would you guys think a trade of:

all 4 2nd rd picks

for

pick 11 or 12

would Ottawa do that, is it enough to entice Nashville or Florida out of their pick. Both those teams have pretty thin farm systems.......maybe 4 2nd rd picks to re-stock the cupboards is more appealing than a single player in the mid 1st rd.

Ottawa can then likely grab Askarov with that pick, and keep their 28 to grab Foerster

was chatting with my bro about this today......at some point you can have too many prospects, so a quantity for quality deal like this might be good
Rpm1971
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 01.08.2019

Sep 29 @ 1:50 PM ET
I think it would take a better package than that just to get the 6th pick, but when you throw Lindholm in there too, that's not even close. if you insist on having Lindholm in there, I would assume the return from Ottawa's end would be something like.

28th pick
33rd pick
Formenton (or similar calibre prospect)
2021 1st (lottery protected, or top 10 protected or something like that).

even that's probably not enough

- sensarmy_11


I would not trade Formenton got a feeling he’s gonna be a real good NHLer 🤙
Balcers or Abramov would be the guys to trade
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Sep 29 @ 2:01 PM ET
would you guys think a trade of:

all 4 2nd rd picks

for

pick 11 or 12

would Ottawa do that, is it enough to entice Nashville or Florida out of their pick. Both those teams have pretty thin farm systems.......maybe 4 2nd rd picks to re-stock the cupboards is more appealing than a single player in the mid 1st rd.

Ottawa can then likely grab Askarov with that pick, and keep their 28 to grab Foerster

was chatting with my bro about this today......at some point you can have too many prospects, so a quantity for quality deal like this might be good

- sensarmy_11

4 unknown bodies for 1 unknown body is quite the chance to take. I'd much rather package a pick or two (outside of round 1) with an existing prospect or two to move up, while keeping some 2nd rounders. I don't think that is as far fetched as it has been suggested.
Sens Writer
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.19.2013

Sep 29 @ 2:35 PM ET
4 unknown bodies for 1 unknown body is quite the chance to take. I'd much rather package a pick or two (outside of round 1) with an existing prospect or two to move up, while keeping some 2nd rounders. I don't think that is as far fetched as it has been suggested.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Agreed, the trade they made in 2018 to move down from 22nd to 26th landed them the 48th pick, and I think kind of sets the general market for things... presuming the team is even remotely interested in trading down. Ottawa is set to pick at 28, 33, 51, 58, and 60, but it's unlikely that anyone would just want a bucket full of 2nd round picks as the only return on a top-15 pick. I'd say a trade to as high as the #12-15 range would likely involve the 28th overall pick, a decent young player/prospect, and one of the mid-2nd round picks... or possibly a significant cap space favour. Edmonton could be quite a natural fit in this regard, as they're top-heavy with salary, and their #14 pick is the only pick they have in the first 4 rounds. They've also really struggled in recent years with trying to bring in a decent #3C, and may well have interest in Chris Tierney as part of the package.
Gord_Wilson_2.0
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 10.11.2011

Sep 29 @ 2:40 PM ET
Agreed, the trade they made in 2018 to move down from 22nd to 26th landed them the 48th pick, and I think kind of sets the general market for things... presuming the team is even remotely interested in trading down. Ottawa is set to pick at 28, 33, 51, 58, and 60, but it's unlikely that anyone would just want a bucket full of 2nd round picks as the only return on a top-15 pick. I'd say a trade to as high as the #12-15 range would likely involve the 28th overall pick, a decent young player/prospect, and one of the mid-2nd round picks... or possibly a significant cap space favour. Edmonton could be quite a natural fit in this regard, as they're top-heavy with salary, and their #14 pick is the only pick they have in the first 4 rounds. Alternatively, they've really struggled with trying to bring in a legitimate #3C, and may have interest in Chris Tierney as part of the package.
- khawk

Pretty much this! If there was ever a time to move out some players/prospects that are fairly redundant (ie Tierney), the draft is a great opportunity. I wouldn't be so quick to bundle picks for other, higher pick(s) that are not sure things. All it takes is one Braden Point in a cluster of 4 picks to royally eff up that move.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 29 @ 3:06 PM ET
I would not trade Formenton got a feeling he’s gonna be a real good NHLer 🤙
Balcers or Abramov would be the guys to trade

- Rpm1971


You have to give quality to get quality.......you aren’t getting the 6th overall pick when the key prospect going the other way projects to at best be an average 3rd line player.

Abromov and Balcers are decent prospects, but neither one of them is going to net anything of real value.

Like I said, I don’t even think the deal I proposed (including formenton) would be enough to get the 6th pick.....if you switch formenton for one of those other prospects, Anaheim hangs up the phone laughing
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Sep 29 @ 4:39 PM ET
would you guys think a trade of:

all 4 2nd rd picks

for

pick 11 or 12

would Ottawa do that, is it enough to entice Nashville or Florida out of their pick. Both those teams have pretty thin farm systems.......maybe 4 2nd rd picks to re-stock the cupboards is more appealing than a single player in the mid 1st rd.

Ottawa can then likely grab Askarov with that pick, and keep their 28 to grab Foerster

was chatting with my bro about this today......at some point you can have too many prospects, so a quantity for quality deal like this might be good

- sensarmy_11

Yeah it's a fair question.

I would certainly agree with the quality over quantity. Ottawa has to be careful, as I'm sure we all know, after seeing Silfverberg, 2 1sts for Bobby Ryan. These picks are assets - in this type of draft they have to be 100% sure about the player there at 11/12 (for example if Rossi or Sanderson slide there)
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 29 @ 5:44 PM ET
Yeah it's a fair question.

I would certainly agree with the quality over quantity. Ottawa has to be careful, as I'm sure we all know, after seeing Silfverberg, 2 1sts for Bobby Ryan. These picks are assets - in this type of draft they have to be 100% sure about the player there at 11/12 (for example if Rossi or Sanderson slide there)

- AlfieisKing


honestly, i want them to trade up and take Askarov......don't use pick 5 on him, and he's unlikely to slide past 12, so trade up into that 10-12 sweet spot (whatever it takes) and grab him.

considering how late in the 2nd 3/4 picks are, i would absolutely be onboard with trading all 4 2nd rd picks for a chance at grabbing the best goalie prospect in the last decade
Trilla
Ottawa Senators
Location: ON
Joined: 06.02.2013

Sep 29 @ 6:13 PM ET
honestly, i want them to trade up and take Askarov......don't use pick 5 on him, and he's unlikely to slide past 12, so trade up into that 10-12 sweet spot (whatever it takes) and grab him.

considering how late in the 2nd 3/4 picks are, i would absolutely be onboard with trading all 4 2nd rd picks for a chance at grabbing the best goalie prospect in the last decade

- sensarmy_11


Askarov could go in the top 10.

I could see: Detroit, Minny or NJ taking him. (Minny being the most realistic).

If he falls out of the 10 spot, I get the feeling the Hurricanes will snag him.

It would be awesome to somehow grab him...I was hoping if the Isles pick was a mid 1st, Sens would snag him, or move up to get him.


sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 29 @ 6:34 PM ET
Askarov could go in the top 10.

I could see: Detroit, Minny or NJ taking him. (Minny being the most realistic).

If he falls out of the 10 spot, I get the feeling the Hurricanes will snag him.

It would be awesome to somehow grab him...I was hoping if the Isles pick was a mid 1st, Sens would snag him, or move up to get him.

- Trilla


that's why i figure ottawa should target the preds or panthers pick, to get the goalie before the canes take him
Trilla
Ottawa Senators
Location: ON
Joined: 06.02.2013

Sep 29 @ 6:37 PM ET
There’s now a report out that Ottawa will listen to offers on the 5th overall
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Sep 29 @ 7:20 PM ET
There’s now a report out that Ottawa will listen to offers on the 5th overall
- Trilla


Sounds like they are just saying they wont hang up the phone. Which they shouldn't. They should only make the trade if it's an outrageous over payment though.
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