We have a Selke winner as well Couturier.

You dont think Provorov is a future Norris candidate? He was ranked 11th at midseason this year and is only 23. Compared to Pietrangelo who is 30 years old. I cant find the final rankings unfortunately.

Carter Hart is another guy projected to be a future Vezina winner. We have all seen him play. There is 0 reasons to be worried about him.

Claude Giroux was also ranked 4th for the Hart Trophy in 2017-18

Not to mention we have a ton of young players still growing like Frost, NoPa, Lindblom, Konecny, Sanheim, Myers, Provorov, Hart and Farabee

So how are we really that different?
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

So sure, lets look at this reasoning in a bit more depth.

First, as discussed, you are choosing the one team in the past 10 tears that can be said to be relatively without high profile stars. Thus this model has roughly a 10% chance of success at best.

Second, you have to admit, even with your high hopes and even with the best case scenario, Provy is at least 2 years away from being Pietro like in anchoring a cup winning team and Myers-Sanheim are at least that much if not more in becoming the sort of stable D needed to backend a cup run. By that time,will Giroux and Voracek manage to recover top 10 positions ,or will Konecny and Laughton rise to that level? Lots of ifs there! In fact after 2 years,it is not clear if Giroux will even be here.

Third, and this has nothing to do with Blues, I have seen Giroux+Voracek look frankly, very convincingly insipid for 5 successive playoff series now. I have deep doubts that unless they play alongside the superstar we dont have, that they can be part of an effective cup contending first line. .

Based on two and three, I would give them a 50% chance at best of being successful in the Blues model, which translates to a 5% chance.

So, sure I will grant you a 5% chance.

But that's not much better than the average team chances, which is 3.3% in any given year.

We’re gonna have to agree to disagree here. Provorov has singlehanded changed the dynamic of this team. That gap between Timonen leaving and Provorov arriving, the Flyers were brutal to watch in between that time.
- SuperSchennBros

Well I mean a real top pair. Provy is fine as #1 but nisky shouldn’t be on top pair. Sanheim/Myers not there yet

So sure, lets look at this reasoning in a bit more depth.

First, as discussed, you are choosing the one team in the past 10 tears that can be said to be relatively without high profile stars. Thus this model has roughly a 10% chance of success at best.

Second, you have to admit, even with your high hopes and even with the best case scenario, Provy is at least 2 years away from being Pietro like in anchoring a cup winning team and Myers-Sanheim are at least that much if not more in becoming the sort of stable D needed to backend a cup run. By that time,will Giroux and Voracek manage to recover top 10 positions ,or will Konecny and Laughton rise to that level? Lots of ifs there! In fact after 2 years,it is not clear if Giroux will even be here.

Third, and this has nothing to do with Blues, I have seen Giroux+Voracek look frankly, very convincingly insipid for 5 successive playoff series now. I have deep doubts that unless they play alongside the superstar we dont have, that they can be part of an effective cup contending first line. .

Based on two and three, I would give them a 50% chance at best of being successful in the Blues model, which translates to a 5% chance.

So, sure I will grant you a 5% chance.

But that's not much better than the average team chances, which is 3.3% in any given year.
- PT21

So if Provorov is only two years away from being as good as Alex Pietrangelo, why mortgage cap space and sign the real Alex Pietrangelo? I don’t want Alex Pietrangelo and I love that. My reasoning is, we’re gonna have pay Couturier big money someday soon. We’ve already committed to Hayes, which I still think was a mistake.

Well I mean a real top pair. Provy is fine as #1 but nisky shouldn’t be on top pair. Sanheim/Myers not there yet
- SMS4016

I don’t have an issue with Niskanen. Even if he can’t hack it, we have an option like Phil Myers to try.

I don’t have an issue with Niskanen. Even if he can’t hack is, we have an option like Phil Myers to try.
- SuperSchennBros

Honestly nisky 2nd pair is fine 1 more year. No need to rush others. Still young. Ghost for risto? Risto provy pair.

Honestly nisky 2nd pair is fine 1 more year. No need to rush others. Still young. Ghost for risto? Risto provy pair.
- SMS4016

Honestly. I like our defense. I think Ivan Provorov is the real deal. Travis Sanheim I believe is older than Provorov. I don’t think Sanheim is being pushed hard enough.

So sure, lets look at this reasoning in a bit more depth.

First, as discussed, you are choosing the one team in the past 10 tears that can be said to be relatively without high profile stars. Thus this model has roughly a 10% chance of success at best.

Second, you have to admit, even with your high hopes and even with the best case scenario, Provy is at least 2 years away from being Pietro like in anchoring a cup winning team and Myers-Sanheim are at least that much if not more in becoming the sort of stable D needed to backend a cup run. By that time,will Giroux and Voracek manage to recover top 10 positions ,or will Konecny and Laughton rise to that level? Lots of ifs there! In fact after 2 years,it is not clear if Giroux will even be here.

Third, and this has nothing to do with Blues, I have seen Giroux+Voracek look frankly, very convincingly insipid for 5 successive playoff series now. I have deep doubts that unless they play alongside the superstar we dont have, that they can be part of an effective cup contending first line. .

Based on two and three, I would give them a 50% chance at best of being successful in the Blues model, which translates to a 5% chance.

So, sure I will grant you a 5% chance.

But that's not much better than the average team chances, which is 3.3% in any given year.
- PT21

Every team has the same doubts as they're developing. These percentages are just fantasy inventions on your part. Giroux and Voracek don't need be a part of the first line. They just need to be good players on a good team. Just like any other team, the Flyers need some things to break their way. You refuse to give this team time to grow.

The real odds that escape you are 1 in 30.

I think this team was once at its absolute best when we knew who our scorers were and their expectations per season. Carter, Briere, Simmonds, Hartnell. If they scored less than 30, that to me would be unacceptable.

Braydon Coburn, Patrick Maroon (2) and the fan favorite Luke Schenn are Stanley Cup champions.

Grats to Tampa.. but you know.. something is totally missing here.

Watching the SCF being played with no fans from a hospital bed is weird.

Also, (frank) kidney stones.
- hereticpride

The weirdness that you're feeling shall pass one day.

However, I hope you're home soon and feeling much better about what's going on down in the nether portion of your body.

Grats to Tampa.. but you know.. something is totally missing here.
- Doc_Sarcasm

Yeah, Victor Hedman

Braydon Coburn, Patrick Maroon (2) and the fan favorite Luke Schenn are Stanley Cup champions.
- SuperSchennBros

They always seem to do it elsewhere don't they?

Who is it gonna be? Hedman or Point? My guess Point.

If Bettman and the NHL had a sense of humor they should have piped in a smattering of boos...

Yeah, Victor Hedman
- SuperSchennBros

no, there's no one there to boo bettman.

Grats to Tampa.. but you know.. something is totally missing here.
- Doc_Sarcasm

I'm sure they miss their families, but the accomplishment is still enormous. No team that has ever won a Cup were as close and bonded like this TB team has due to the circumstances.

If Bettman and the NHL had a sense of humor they should have piped in a smattering of boos...
- MBFlyerfan

Watching the SCF being played with no fans from a hospital bed is weird.

Also, (frank) kidney stones.
- hereticpride

Wow, I missed this. You are one of my favorite posters here.

Get well soon, buddy.

I'm sure they miss their families, but the accomplishment is still enormous. No team that has ever won a Cup were as close and bonded like this TB team has due to the circumstances.
- PLindbergh31

In many way perhaps the hardest run. No family, no crowds. Imagine how horrible it is for Dallas to be away for all that time only to go home with nothing.

Coburn and Schenn handed the Cup within five passes.

That's enough for me to turn it off.

That's enough for me to turn it off.
- Pelle31Forever

one day. one day the orange and black will hoist the cup.

Stamkos got robbed for Conn Smyth. He was the clear winner for his 3 minutes of play in the Playoffs

Stamkos got robbed for Conn Smyth. He was the clear winner for his 3 minutes of play in the Playoffs
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

should of given it to Pavelski in honor of his most goals as an old american dude.