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bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 29 @ 12:57 PM ET
I wouldn't call them hotbeds because they won in the past. They are better than their counterparts in warm states but it sure helps seeing them in the finals.
- Aaron_85



You miss the sarcasm sign..
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 29 @ 12:58 PM ET
Escrow is just a holding place. Why do they not get that money back?

Is it tied to league profits?

- bixll


Escrow is a holding place. The league takes 15% off each paycheque and holds it in escrow until the finalize their annual revenues and splits. Historically the players have lost about 10% of that escrow (ie. the league kept 10% to balance out the revenue sharing).

For the next two years they KNOW that revenues are going to be down ...way down ...I've read optimistacally 35% and pessimistically 50% or more.

So as part of this summer's CBA (6 year extension) the league agreed that Escrow would be capped at 20%. I have to imagine they all know that the 20% will be lost. The losses will be greater and if so the owners have essentially agreed to eat the losses over that 20%. In return the owners got a new 6 year deal and the players gave up on all the other 'gains' they were going to ask for.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Sep 29 @ 1:02 PM ET
You miss the sarcasm sign..
- bixll


I don't have a sarcasm meter at work
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 29 @ 1:08 PM ET
he would say each part from Montreal is more valuable

CC > Robertson
Domi > AJ
16th > 15th

- senstroll


Well aside from the last one, he'd be right.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 29 @ 1:10 PM ET
Laine's next contract (next summer) could be a tricky one. If you buy now you better like him long term.

I think Domi's value >> Johnsson's so I'd say the Hab offer is better. But, does the Peg (or anyone else) feel confident about Domi being a top6 centre?

Jets should just pass until they find that Centre or elite young D.

- The Law


I agree.. Jets should hold out for more
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Sep 29 @ 1:10 PM ET
Did people ever question Ovi's fire?

I took what he said as Ovi has incredible fire, always has. If Laine had that he'd be even better than he already is.

At least that's how I took it.

Laine's incredible. But so far, he's not Ovi incredible.

I always understood the Ovi criticism to be that he played a little selfish ...didn't develop a two-way game until later in his career.

- The Law

Yeah, exactly - OV has always played with fire and physicality. It's something that is severely lacking from Laine's game - he has the size and the skills but doesn't seem to have the desire.

From what I remember, OV credits getting pummeled by Team Canada at the WJC for changing his game monumentally. Maybe that key ingredient - getting one's ass handed to them - was absent from Laine's development?

He's a frustrating player for sure.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 29 @ 1:11 PM ET
Well aside from the last one, he'd be right.
- Scabeh



Domi's a bit overrated in my opinion, he is not a point per game guy, doesn't have elite skill, isn't overly physical and isn't known as a goal scorer.. The Johnsson comparable might be a bit low, but I think Domi is similar to Kapanen
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 29 @ 1:11 PM ET
Nylander + Liljegren + 15th overall to Wpg por Laine.

Laine is a different kind of floater, and is a likeable guy.
He'd become a fan's favorite soon in Toronto

- MaximusAurelius

Why the hell would the leafs do that?
Doesn't help them defensively, willie scores more goals and got 3 less pts than laine.
And you may end up paying more for laine per year.

This makee no sense.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 29 @ 1:13 PM ET
Domi's a bit overrated in my opinion, he is not a point per game guy, doesn't have elite skill, isn't overly physical and isn't known as a goal scorer.. The Johnsson comparable might be a bit low, but I think Domi is similar to Kapanen
- PatC80


Domi had close to 50 points in what people consider a disappointing season.

I agree he's not the 72 points guy we saw 2 years ago. Highly doubt it.

But is he capable of being a 45-55 points guy? Probably yeah.

Obviously Pittsburgh must think Kapanen is capable of similar results.... he's just proven less than Domi at this point.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Sep 29 @ 1:15 PM ET
Domi's a bit overrated in my opinion, he is not a point per game guy, doesn't have elite skill, isn't overly physical and isn't known as a goal scorer.. The Johnsson comparable might be a bit low, but I think Domi is similar to Kapanen
- PatC80

He seems like a slightly more skilled version of Kerfoot to me.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Sep 29 @ 1:15 PM ET
Domi had close to 50 points in what people consider a disappointing season.

I agree he's not the 72 points guy we saw 2 years ago. Highly doubt it.

But is he capable of being a 45-55 points guy? Probably yeah.

Obviously Pittsburgh must think Kapanen is capable of similar results.... he's just proven less than Domi at this point.

- Scabeh


Kapanen is also cheaper
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 29 @ 1:18 PM ET
The Lightning may have won ONE Cup...but look at their Cap Situation! LOOOOOOOOLOLOL


Did I get this one right? Trying for the hottest take.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Sep 29 @ 1:18 PM ET
So back to reality ...

Where are all the buyouts?

To AP or not to AP?

If no AP who's the best of the rest on the free agent market? Brodie, Vatanen, Hamonic?

Who's some good bottom 6 fwd possibilities? Maroon is everybody's perfect 4th liner but is Brassard a gritty 3C option? Cody Eakin?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 29 @ 1:18 PM ET
Kapanen is also cheaper
- Aaron_85


Domi is unsigned but yes, most likely.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 29 @ 1:19 PM ET
The Lightning may have won ONE Cup...but look at their Cap Situation! LOOOOOOOOLOLOL


Did I get this one right? Trying for the hottest take.

- AdamFrench


Don't forget all those draft picks they traded away.

FUTURE LOOKS VERY BLEAK FOR THE BOLTS!! LOSERS!
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 29 @ 1:21 PM ET
He seems like a slightly more skilled version of Kerfoot to me.
- mjones242


I don't think Kerfoot is a top 6 forward.. I think Domi is a 2nd line guy.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 29 @ 1:23 PM ET
Eric Macramalla
@EricOnSportsLaw

To summarize, tax considerations for NHL players:

1) Zero income tax states: Florida, Texas, Nevada, WSH and TN.

2) Players can deduct more $ in US.

3) Non-Canadian residents playing on a CDN team can enjoy significant tax benefits of bonus laden contracts (Tavares, Matthews).


^^ Add Alex pieteranglo


Nicolas Blouin
@BlouinNicolas
Replying to
@EricOnSportsLaw
What about bonuses? What are the rules Canada vs US?


Eric Macramalla
@EricOnSportsLaw
A non-Canadian resident’s bonus is only taxed at 15%.


Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 29 @ 1:23 PM ET
The Lightning may have won ONE Cup...but look at their Cap Situation! LOOOOOOOOLOLOL


Did I get this one right? Trying for the hottest take.

- AdamFrench

Add something about COVID deaths from their Stanley Cup parade.

COVID is very hot right now.

And a Donald Trump reference. Will they go to the White House in the next 30 days?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 29 @ 1:24 PM ET
So back to reality ...

Where are all the buyouts?

To AP or not to AP?

If no AP who's the best of the rest on the free agent market? Brodie, Vatanen, Hamonic?

Who's some good bottom 6 fwd possibilities? Maroon is everybody's perfect 4th liner but is Brassard a gritty 3C option? Cody Eakin?

- The Law


Yes on AP if they can..

Bottom 6 guys;

Simmonds
Maroon
Reaves
Joel Armia
Andrew Copp
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 29 @ 1:24 PM ET
Add something about COVID deaths from their Stanley Cup parade.

COVID is very hot right now.

And a Donald Trump reference. Will they go to the White House in the next 30 days?

- Atomic Wedgie


They'll be greeted by the new supreme court judge.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 29 @ 1:25 PM ET
Yes on AP if they can..

Bottom 6 guys;

Simmonds
Maroon
Reaves
Joel Armia
Andrew Copp

- PatC80


Hey! Armia isn't up for grabs!
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 29 @ 1:25 PM ET
Don't forget all those draft picks they traded away.

FUTURE LOOKS VERY BLEAK FOR THE BOLTS!! LOSERS!

- Scabeh

It's ok. They will draft *glances at draft board* Theodor Niederbach in the 3rd round and 4 years from now he will be scoring 90 points or something.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Sep 29 @ 1:26 PM ET
I think we are 2-3 players away from being on par with dallas. including a good rhd man.

but tb was on another level. they imposed their will on dallas in game 6. just too much depth. no easy shifts/weak match-ups to take advantage of.

- Tumbleweed


In terms of structure of the team, Leafs are much closer to Tampa than Dallas. Biggest difference are the Defense and grinders are of much higher quality on Tampa than on the Leafs. Dallas was fortunate and I doubt they get anywhere near the same playoff success next season. Colorado in my view will be the team to beat in the West and is superior to Dallas.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 29 @ 1:26 PM ET
Hey! Armia isn't up for grabs!

- Scabeh




Was trying to sneak that one by you
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 29 @ 1:27 PM ET
It's ok. They will draft *glances at draft board* Theodor Niederbach in the 3rd round and 4 years from now he will be scoring 90 points or something.
- AdamFrench


Sounds about right.

While trading away a breaking down Steven Stamkos to the Devils for Jack Hughes and a first round pick.
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