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rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Sep 29 @ 10:36 AM ET
If you could trade him and be able to get an Eichel, for example...do you do it?
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Sep 29 @ 10:37 AM ET
If you could trade him and be able to get an Eichel, for example...do you do it?
- rrentz


Nothing against Eichel, but I think it (frank)s up what the Rangers have been building. imo
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Sep 29 @ 10:38 AM ET
I do think though, if the Rangers had known the world was going to change, and there'd be a flat cap of 81 million and nobody knows when it will go up again, and they'd known how good Fox was going to be, and how Tony D would take off, they wouldn't have given Trouba 8 million a year

nothing at all about what I think of him as a player, I think I like Trouba as much as anyone, but they better be very sure, long term, that they can handle having him as the highest paid defenseman on this team until 2026

- jimbro83



Trouba is a keeper, they overpaid slightly on the $$ because they thought the contract would look better when he was 30+ years old. To be frank, if they knew the world was going to change, they would have traded Kreider and never given him that extension...
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Sep 29 @ 10:43 AM ET
Trouba is a keeper, they overpaid slightly on the $$ because they thought the contract would look better when he was 30+ years old. To be frank, if they knew the world was going to change, they would have traded Kreider and never given him that extension...
- TommyGTrain


well and also been in a position to draft Lafreniere too

its very questionable whether or not they would have signed Kreider had they known what was coming

Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Sep 29 @ 10:48 AM ET
Trouba is a keeper, they overpaid slightly on the $$ because they thought the contract would look better when he was 30+ years old. To be frank, if they knew the world was going to change, they would have traded Kreider and never given him that extension...
- TommyGTrain


I am not 100%, but I think you are right.
Plus, the last 2 years of his contract have a modified NTC and his salary drops to $6M. So, that's a little cushion.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Sep 29 @ 10:49 AM ET
well and also been in a position to draft Lafreniere too

its very questionable whether or not they would have signed Kreider had they known what was coming

- jimbro83

Kreider was always coming back, always
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Sep 29 @ 10:49 AM ET
Nothing against Eichel, but I think it (frank)s up what the Rangers have been building. imo
- mdw7413


I couldn't say either way. He's a top 15 center in the league, so it does make it enticing.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Sep 29 @ 10:50 AM ET
well and also been in a position to draft Lafreniere too

its very questionable whether or not they would have signed Kreider had they known what was coming

- jimbro83



Kreider is going to piss me off if he plays his disappearing act after the extension. Dude has to show up every night if he wants to be a leader.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Sep 29 @ 10:50 AM ET
If you could trade him and be able to get an Eichel, for example...do you do it?
- rrentz


if the Rangers could acquire Eichel in a package that includes Trouba, the 22nd, next year's first rounder and Kravstov

that's a deal I could get onboard with because it would say to me the right side of the blueline is going to be Fox, Tony D and Lundkvist moving forward and then they'd be very solid down the middle

problem is I don't think that's enough for Buffalo, I think they'd insist on one of the pieces I consider absolutely untouchable (Kakko, Shesty, Fox, LAF)
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Sep 29 @ 10:52 AM ET
I couldn't say either way. He's a top 15 center in the league, so it does make it enticing.
- rrentz


What he would cost would screw the Rangers up. The way they came together after the mid point last year gave me a boner. Why I don't want to see any major changes. Want this young group to continue to grow together
NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Sep 29 @ 10:58 AM ET
if the Rangers could acquire Eichel in a package that includes Trouba, the 22nd, next year's first rounder and Kravstov

that's a deal I could get onboard with because it would say to me the right side of the blueline is going to be Fox, Tony D and Lundkvist moving forward and then they'd be very solid down the middle

problem is I don't think that's enough for Buffalo, I think they'd insist on one of the pieces I consider absolutely untouchable (Kakko, Shesty, Fox, LAF)

- jimbro83

that is a very small right side
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Sep 29 @ 10:59 AM ET
that is a very small right side
- NYRangers1124


yep, 5-10 city
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 29 @ 11:09 AM ET
if the Rangers could acquire Eichel in a package that includes Trouba, the 22nd, next year's first rounder and Kravstov

that's a deal I could get onboard with because it would say to me the right side of the blueline is going to be Fox, Tony D and Lundkvist moving forward and then they'd be very solid down the middle

problem is I don't think that's enough for Buffalo, I think they'd insist on one of the pieces I consider absolutely untouchable (Kakko, Shesty, Fox, LAF)

- jimbro83


I think buffalo would want LAF ++ for Eichel.........personally, I wouldn't even trade LAF straight up for him. you already have Zibby, who I personally think is a better all around player right now....maybe a bit older, but Eichel isn't the guy i'd want to go "all in" for. he seems to be a really low character "all about me" type of player who would be an awful influence on all the young talent in that dressing room. not saying he isn't a great player, he definitely is, but to give up on LAF i'd want someone who was the whole package, and I don't think Eichel is
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Sep 29 @ 11:15 AM ET
I think buffalo would want LAF ++ for Eichel.........personally, I wouldn't even trade LAF straight up for him. you already have Zibby, who I personally think is a better all around player right now....maybe a bit older, but Eichel isn't the guy i'd want to go "all in" for. he seems to be a really low character "all about me" type of player who would be an awful influence on all the young talent in that dressing room. not saying he isn't a great player, he definitely is, but to give up on LAF i'd want someone who was the whole package, and I don't think Eichel is
- sensarmy_11


the trade proposals I see from non Ranger fans are stunning

like the 1st overall pick and Kakko for Eichel, and people being serious that is what it would take
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Sep 29 @ 11:16 AM ET
I think buffalo would want LAF ++ for Eichel.........personally, I wouldn't even trade LAF straight up for him. you already have Zibby, who I personally think is a better all around player right now....maybe a bit older, but Eichel isn't the guy i'd want to go "all in" for. he seems to be a really low character "all about me" type of player who would be an awful influence on all the young talent in that dressing room. not saying he isn't a great player, he definitely is, but to give up on LAF i'd want someone who was the whole package, and I don't think Eichel is
- sensarmy_11


If the Rangers traded their 1st I'm giving up on hockey
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Sep 29 @ 11:17 AM ET
If the Rangers traded their 1st I'm giving up on hockey
- mdw7413



We agree on this.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Sep 29 @ 11:19 AM ET
We agree on this.
- JRR1285


Philippine slap fighting will be my go to sport next
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Sep 29 @ 11:21 AM ET
Philippine slap fighting will be my go to sport next
- mdw7413



I'm just gonna step in front of a train.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 29 @ 11:21 AM ET
the trade proposals I see from non Ranger fans are stunning

like the 1st overall pick and Kakko for Eichel, and people being serious that is what it would take

- jimbro83


there were some pretty bad ones from Ranger fans too, especially when that rumour of a potential deal with Ottawa was floating.

I remember reading one that suggested LAF for picks 3, 5, and Tkachuk.........that might be worse than LAF and Kakko for Eichel.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Sep 29 @ 11:21 AM ET
I'm just gonna step in front of a train.
- JRR1285


I never understood how people "accidently" get hit by trains.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Sep 29 @ 11:23 AM ET
I never understood how people "accidently" get hit by trains.
- mdw7413



Unless you're in a car doing stupid poop it's never an accident.

What an inconvenience for everyone on the train too. Gotta sit around while they clean the person's bits up and "determine cause".
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Sep 29 @ 11:24 AM ET
I see 2 players that haven't been drafted yet and it's a bit surprising. If the Flyers end up with either of them like this mock I would be thrilled.

Don't screw this up Flyersfan328!
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Sep 29 @ 11:24 AM ET
there were some pretty bad ones from Ranger fans too, especially when that rumour of a potential deal with Ottawa was floating.

I remember reading one that suggested LAF for picks 3, 5, and Tkachuk.........that might be worse than LAF and Kakko for Eichel.

- sensarmy_11



I like that one.
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 09.30.2015

Sep 29 @ 11:26 AM ET
this really isn't a referendum on Trouba's play and what he can bring

his NMC kicks in on October 9th and he becomes immovable until 2026

every cool with that? yay or nay?

- jimbro83

Not going to echo what everyone said, but I mostly agree. Picture this: 6'3" Trouba and 6'5" Miller as 1/3 of the d-corps. That's hulking
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Sep 29 @ 11:27 AM ET
I never understood how people "accidently" get hit by trains.
- mdw7413


do you guys remember a video that was released from FOX like 15 or 20 years ago, and it was all this crazy footage of horrible poop they couldn't show on TV....it was called "FOX's not for TV" or something like that.

there was a video of a woman crossing the train tracks at an actual crossing......there was a train stopped on the first track, so it was difficult to see what was coming on the other.......she tried to cross (the lights were flashing, I guess she tried to beat it) and a high speed train flew by (couldn't see it from behind the other train) and hit her........it was the most traumatizing thing I had ever seen.
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