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JetFuel
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 10.08.2019

Oct 11 @ 12:39 PM ET
Morrissey-DeMelo
Forbort-Pionk
Beaulieu-Poolman
Sbisa

That’s your blueline. Add in Thompson stealing a 4th line job, probably from Appleton or Harkins.
I was so happy with Perfetti and Stastny. Now the dream is dead.

All I can hope for in this life is to find someone who loves me as much as the Jets love pushing home grown talent down the depth chart for other teams’ scraps. Draft and develop my ass.

*edit* Thompson just sucks, by the way. I don’t care about faceoff percentage. A faceoff is the same thing as any other puck battle anywhere on the ice, just with everyone stood still.

- Rexypoo


Forbort is a good signing and if anyone thinks Samberg will be anything more then Forbort they've obviously never watched Samberg play.

Always get a laugh out of the faceoffs don't matter nonsense from the fancy stat crowd.
JetFuel
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 10.08.2019

Oct 11 @ 12:42 PM ET
Fobort is just a depth addition. So is Nate Thompson and those other recent signings Beaulieu and Pionk are definite pairing partners. I still think Chevy is hunting for a 2nd pairing defenseman though,but if so, it would need to involve a trade.
- jetsnation


"Beaulieu and Pionk are definite pairing partners"

What does that mean, you think they'll be the 2nd D pair?

I think Forbort is the 2nd D pair partner for Pionk, the way Rexy has it in his above post is what the D will look like I'm thinking, Chevy is likely done now.
Rexypoo
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 11 @ 12:48 PM ET
Forbort is a good signing and if anyone thinks Samberg will be anything more then Forbort they've obviously never watched Samberg play.

Always get a laugh out of the faceoffs don't matter nonsense from the fancy stat crowd.

- JetFuel


We do not tolerate Samberg slander in this house.
Forbort is an acceptable 3rd pairing D. Samberg has that as his absolute floor
jetsnation
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Oct 11 @ 12:50 PM ET
Well as long as the myth about no one wanting to play in Winnipeg "
- TheUltimateJet


Not one poster on this board ever said that "nobody" wants to play in Winnipeg"

I still have not seen an example of a player turning down significantly more money here to play elsewhere".
- TheUltimateJet


No one will ever know that except Chevy. Players often waive more money to stay with their current teams.

Further to that, how many times have trades fallen through due to players refusing to waive their NMC's"
- TheUltimateJet


I'm sure there are lots but the GM's will never reveal things like this. Sometimes the players will , such as Tyler Johnson recent refusal to waive his No-trade.

I've read many articles on the subject and seen player polls and Winnipeg always leads the list. Ottawa, Edmonton, Buffalo are also right up there. Favorable taxes in places like Florida, Texas, and Nevada, the $US vs $CDN , weather, and desirability of the city, close to family, etc are many of the reasons. Tyler Seguin asked me just before he signed his last contract why he would consider anywhere else but Dallas. He can practice and then go golfing with his teammates or hang by the pool., the taxes are lower, etc.

Finally, the Jets draft a lot of Finns and Swedes and players out of UND for a very specific reason. They are far more likely to stay in Winnipeg for obvious reasons.

https://www.thefourthperiod.com/no-trade-clauses

https://www.gohabsgo.com/...ents-these-two-teams-mos/
Rexypoo
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 11 @ 12:50 PM ET
Fobort is just a depth addition. So is Nate Thompson and those other recent signings Beaulieu and Pionk are definite pairing partners. I still think Chevy is hunting for a 2nd pairing defenseman though,but if so, it would need to involve a trade.
- jetsnation


Every terrible UFA the Jets sign is a depth signing until Maurice gets them in camp. Then they become full timers.
BWJumper
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Oct 11 @ 2:02 PM ET
Morrissey-DeMelo
Forbort-Pionk
Beaulieu-Poolman
Sbisa

That’s your blueline. Add in Thompson stealing a 4th line job, probably from Appleton or Harkins.
I was so happy with Perfetti and Stastny. Now the dream is dead.

All I can hope for in this life is to find someone who loves me as much as the Jets love pushing home grown talent down the depth chart for other teams’ scraps. Draft and develop my ass.

*edit* Thompson just sucks, by the way. I don’t care about faceoff percentage. A faceoff is the same thing as any other puck battle anywhere on the ice, just with everyone stood still.

- Rexypoo


Look on the bright side Rexypoo, I'm pretty sure this could be Maurice's last shot. Miss the playoffs with his perfect veteran roster and he's done.

Side note: Can the Jets please do right by Niku and trade him somewhere he can get playing time.


TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 11 @ 3:21 PM ET
Not one poster on this board ever said that "nobody" wants to play in Winnipeg"



No one will ever know that except Chevy. Players often waive more money to stay with their current teams.



I'm sure there are lots but the GM's will never reveal things like this. Sometimes the players will , such as Tyler Johnson recent refusal to waive his No-trade.

I've read many articles on the subject and seen player polls and Winnipeg always leads the list. Ottawa, Edmonton, Buffalo are also right up there. Favorable taxes in places like Florida, Texas, and Nevada, the $US vs $CDN , weather, and desirability of the city, close to family, etc are many of the reasons. Tyler Seguin asked me just before he signed his last contract why he would consider anywhere else but Dallas. He can practice and then go golfing with his teammates or hang by the pool., the taxes are lower, etc.

Finally, the Jets draft a lot of Finns and Swedes and players out of UND for a very specific reason. They are far more likely to stay in Winnipeg for obvious reasons.

https://www.thefourthperiod.com/no-trade-clauses

https://www.gohabsgo.com/...ents-these-two-teams-mos/

- jetsnation


I always like how you standby the company rhetoric! Further to this, I would love to see Chevy actually make a trade for someone that refuses to waive their NMC. This will confirm your theories.

As far as taxes go in the USA, I would much rather live in a country where we take care of our sick based on sickness rather than the size of their wallets. I am also sure those lower taxes are leading to much of the civil unrest taking place in the USA, as the disparities between rich and poor are becoming more pronounced.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 11 @ 3:32 PM ET
Morrissey-DeMelo
Forbort-Pionk
Beaulieu-Poolman
Sbisa

That’s your blueline. Add in Thompson stealing a 4th line job, probably from Appleton or Harkins.
I was so happy with Perfetti and Stastny. Now the dream is dead.

All I can hope for in this life is to find someone who loves me as much as the Jets love pushing home grown talent down the depth chart for other teams’ scraps. Draft and develop my ass.

*edit* Thompson just sucks, by the way. I don’t care about faceoff percentage. A faceoff is the same thing as any other puck battle anywhere on the ice, just with everyone stood still.

- Rexypoo



This is the post of the offseason!
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 11 @ 3:37 PM ET
Look on the bright side Rexypoo, I'm pretty sure this could be Maurice's last shot. Miss the playoffs with his perfect veteran roster and he's done.

Side note: Can the Jets please do right by Niku and trade him somewhere he can get playing time.

- BWJumper


It's quite clear to me that Maurice does not like Niku. I think you were the first to bring this up last year, much to the dismay of many posters on this board.
BWJumper
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Oct 11 @ 3:58 PM ET
It's quite clear to me that Maurice does not like Niku. I think you were the first to bring this up last year, much to the dismay of many posters on this board.
- TheUltimateJet


To set the record straight, I said Maurice doesn't like Niku's game, it was not a personal dislike.

Great development by the Jets, turn a 21 year old AHL defenseman of the year into a probable waiver wire pick-up in 2 years.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 11 @ 4:26 PM ET
To set the record straight, I said Maurice doesn't like Niku's game, it was not a personal dislike.

Great development by the Jets, turn a 21 year old AHL defenseman of the year into a probable waiver wire pick-up in 2 years.

- BWJumper

Well looks like Roslovic is done too with the Jets. Rumor has it, he is on his way to Vegas (the only GM's # that Chevy has) for Nate Schmidt.

Apparently he is upset with his usage, much like Trouba was and Laine currently is. You got to give it upto Maurice and his excellent development of young players.
Quillanrocks
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Courtenay, BC
Joined: 07.22.2013

Oct 11 @ 5:20 PM ET
Well looks like Roslovic is done too with the Jets. Rumor has it, he is on his way to Vegas (the only GM's # that Chevy has) for Nate Schmidt.

Apparently he is upset with his usage, much like Trouba was and Laine currently is. You got to give it upto Maurice and his excellent development of young players.

- TheUltimateJet


Of course, let's help Vegas acquire Pietrangelo even more, now! Fsakes!! Honestly, I don't mind him as part of a trade to acquire defense, (as I think I've made clear in my debate with Ross77! lol), but not with Vegas. C'mon, there HAS to be another move! Perhaps even a better one! (ahem, Pullock! lol) There's time to be patient, Chevy!

It's funny . . . Roslovic is the last "piece" remaining on the Jets from the Evander Kane, Zach Bogosian trade!
Quillanrocks
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Courtenay, BC
Joined: 07.22.2013

Oct 11 @ 5:28 PM ET
You always have to think about upgrading your positions. For example if Pittsburgh, Colorado or Edmonton offered us Crosby, Malkin, MacKinnon, McDavid or Draisatl for Scheifele, would you not make that deal?

Same situation for trading Pionk for Pullock. I love Ross77's idea!

- TheUltimateJet


Absolutely, if Lou offers Pullock for Pionk (plus), absolutely do it. In a heartbeat. But that's not the silliness that's being discussed. I've simply been trying to argue that I don't want the Jets to shop a good player from our weakest position to make that position better, is all.

That being said, if Roslovic is on the table, offer him up with Pionk + (for Pullock +)and see if that gets anywhere! Honestly, I doubt it. If Barzal is his top RFA priority, I do believe Pullock is a pretty close second. With Pionk's 3 million and the cost to extend Roslovic, he probably would spend just as much to resign Pullock. Who knows!!? It's all fun fodder!
bennythehat
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Oct 11 @ 5:47 PM ET
Perreault and Niku for ??
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 11 @ 5:48 PM ET
Of course, let's help Vegas acquire Pietrangelo even more, now! Fsakes!! Honestly, I don't mind him as part of a trade to acquire defense, (as I think I've made clear in my debate with Ross77! lol), but not with Vegas. C'mon, there HAS to be another move! Perhaps even a better one! (ahem, Pullock! lol) There's time to be patient, Chevy!

It's funny . . . Roslovic is the last "piece" remaining on the Jets from the Evander Kane, Zach Bogosian trade!

- Quillanrocks


Like I posted before, if Vegas wins the cup, Chevy should definitely get an honorary Stanley Cup ring.

I was going to post about the Kane/Bogosian trade too.

bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Oct 11 @ 5:49 PM ET
Resigning Sbiza and Beauleu has dropped Samberg, Henola and Niku down the depth chart because Maurice loves his slower, less talented pylons. We couldn't win with these guys last season, but here they are again.
- islansjet


I think Samberg and Heinola could each benefit from one season in the AHL. Heinola is still very small, and used to international ice. Samberg is used to 28 game NCAA seasons, and this will be a massive change for the guy. These kids could really benefit with big TOI in the AHL. Niku will get his chance to make the team, and this really will be a make-or-break season for the AHL stud. Injuries happen and slots will certainly open up.

Jomo Pionk
Sbisa Demelo
Niku/Beauliu Poolman
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 11 @ 6:27 PM ET
I think Samberg and Heinola could each benefit from one season in the AHL. Heinola is still very small, and used to international ice. Samberg is used to 28 game NCAA seasons, and this will be a massive change for the guy. These kids could really benefit with big TOI in the AHL. Niku will get his chance to make the team, and this really will be a make-or-break season for the AHL stud. Injuries happen and slots will certainly open up.

Jomo Pionk
Sbisa Demelo
Niku/Beauliu Poolman

- bikeguy99

That d-corps just screams Stanley Cup!
JetFuel
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 10.08.2019

Oct 11 @ 6:49 PM ET
Well looks like Roslovic is done too with the Jets. Rumor has it, he is on his way to Vegas (the only GM's # that Chevy has) for Nate Schmidt.

Apparently he is upset with his usage, much like Trouba was and Laine currently is. You got to give it upto Maurice and his excellent development of young players.

- TheUltimateJet


Well Roslo knows playing with Lowry his point totals will be weak and you get paid for production, I'm not surprised there's lots of Jets not happy with their usage, they know their earning potential is limited being stuck where Maurice puts them.
JetFuel
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 10.08.2019

Oct 11 @ 6:55 PM ET
Of course, let's help Vegas acquire Pietrangelo even more, now! Fsakes!! Honestly, I don't mind him as part of a trade to acquire defense, (as I think I've made clear in my debate with Ross77! lol), but not with Vegas. C'mon, there HAS to be another move! Perhaps even a better one! (ahem, Pullock! lol) There's time to be patient, Chevy!

It's funny . . . Roslovic is the last "piece" remaining on the Jets from the Evander Kane, Zach Bogosian trade!

- Quillanrocks


Chevy was upset that Vegas didn't win the cup and that taking Eakin wasn't enough so he took Stastny off their hands but no one wants to take Fleury without Vegas giving them good assets which Mcrimmon doesn't want to part with so his old buddy Chevy will come to the rescue and give him a good young player for whatever Vegas no longer wants so they can sign the big prize of free agency... 😂

All I can say is if this goes down and Chevy trades Roslovic to Vegas it better be for Schmidt and not Martinez.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 11 @ 7:55 PM ET
Chevy was upset that Vegas didn't win the cup and that taking Eakin wasn't enough so he took Stastny off their hands but no one wants to take Fleury without Vegas giving them good assets which Mcrimmon doesn't want to part with so his old buddy Chevy will come to the rescue and give him a good young player for whatever Vegas no longer wants so they can sign the big prize of free agency... 😂

All I can say is if this goes down and Chevy trades Roslovic to Vegas it better be for Schmidt and not Martinez.

- JetFuel

Looks like McCrimmon may have had some sympathy for Chevy. Looks like a trade to Florida for Schmidt is taking place. We may end up with Martinez
JetFuel
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 10.08.2019

Oct 11 @ 8:23 PM ET
Looks like McCrimmon may have had some sympathy for Chevy. Looks like a trade to Florida for Schmidt is taking place. We may end up with Martinez
- TheUltimateJet


If Chevy trades Roslovic one for one for Martinez he needs to be fired ASAP!
jetsnation
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Oct 11 @ 8:26 PM ET
While most are surprised at Taylor Hall signing in Buffalo, its actually a very smart move for Hall to have a one-year contract and have one of the top centers in the game feeding him the puck (and vice versa). Hall's next contract could therefore be well north of $10 MM if the plan works out.

The COVID uncertainty is definitely playing into the UFA situation in a big way. No really big dollars for anyone. A shortened season in play. Tampa is so screwed.
jetsnation
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Oct 11 @ 8:59 PM ET
If Chevy trades Roslovic one for one for Martinez he needs to be fired ASAP!
- JetFuel


If Chevy can pull off a trade for an asset we need vs an asset like Roslovic (which we really don't need) then all the power to him. If it ends up being Vegas then that's fine we me .

The one thing for certain is that if they sign Petriangelo then Vegas will still make whatever trade they need to free up space , with us or some other NHL team. This concept that we are helping Vegas is a completely ridiculous argument in so many ways. Do you think any Vegas fan is complaining that the Jets look like a much-improved team with Stastny centering our second line ? Vegas basically got nothing for him. Jets were the one that took advantage.

The Jets have several assets that have become expendable and Roslovic and Niku now top that list.
JetFuel
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 10.08.2019

Oct 11 @ 9:23 PM ET
If Chevy can pull off a trade for an asset we need vs an asset like Roslovic (which we really don't need) then all the power to him. If it ends up being Vegas then that's fine we me .

The one thing for certain is that if they sign Petriangelo then Vegas will still make whatever trade they need to free up space , with us or some other NHL team. This concept that we are helping Vegas is a completely ridiculous argument in so many ways. Do you think any Vegas fan is complaining that the Jets look like a much-improved team with Stastny centering our second line ? Vegas basically got nothing for him. Jets were the one that took advantage.

The Jets have several assets that have become expendable and Roslovic and Niku now top that list.

- jetsnation


You actually think trading Roslovic one for one for Martinez is a good trade for the Jets?
jetsnation
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Oct 11 @ 9:40 PM ET
You actually think trading Roslovic one for one for Martinez is a good trade for the Jets?
- JetFuel


Vegas gave up two second-round picks to get Martinez. Also, there were several posters on this board that wanted Martinex when he became available. I believe Rexy was one of them . One year is all Jets really for a defenseman before both Heinola and Sanberg will be ready.

That all being said I personally have never been a big Martinez fan. I prefer a Dman with more offense. He'd be great on the PK though, fantastic shot-blocker. If a deal were to be done then with Roslovic as an RFA vs Martinez and upcoming UFA , I might want additional compensation conditional on Roslovic signing. It doesn't make sense to me that Vegas would want Roslovic though.

I'd take Nate Schmidt though, its better he improves the Jets rather than a divisional rival.
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