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Rexypoo
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 12 @ 8:06 PM ET
With Vegas signing Pietrangelo for 8.8, will either Schnidt OR Shea Theodore be available? Or does Vegas trade Fleury or go the LTIR route?
- grahamzky


Schmidt yes, Theodore no. Unless they’re really stupid. Theodore is probably better than Pietrangelo
BWJumper
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Oct 12 @ 8:11 PM ET
Why not do it now? Heinola and Samberg are going to end up your #1 and #2 defencemen, especially if Morrissey doesn’t recover.

The current blueline doesn’t make the playoffs
, and the Jets are no longer in a strong enough position to be sending off picks and prospects

- Rexypoo



I don't know about that. ANA, LA are terrible. SJ,CHI, MIN are relying on too many past their prime players. not a fan of ARZ coached by Tocchet. That leaves the Jets beating out 1 team out of 8 others to make the playoffs.

Having said that the biggest variable is the coach. If the Jets keep Maurice as coach for the year I'd say they miss the playoffs, but if they fire him after a bad start, a different coach will get them there.
BWJumper
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Oct 12 @ 8:18 PM ET
We’re gonna get Martinez and fix absolutely nothing while also helping them
- Rexypoo


And Vegas will throw in Reaves to give the Jets toughness.
bennythehat
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Oct 12 @ 8:20 PM ET
Everyone you listed, besides Petan, should not have been drafted where they were. They were picked for size.
Goalies are voodoo, so Comrie doesn’t matter.
Petan was screwed by the organization.

Long story short, your point isn’t a point

- Rexypoo




But they were drafted ...hindsight is 20/20.
grahamzky
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Oct 12 @ 8:24 PM ET
Schmidt yes, Theodore no. Unless they’re really stupid. Theodore is probably better than Pietrangelo
- Rexypoo


Yea I don't think Vegas would deal Theodore either. Only thing going is that Theodore doesn't have a NTC, easier to deal. Don't know if Schmidt has agreed to waive?
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 12 @ 8:29 PM ET
Yea I don't think Vegas would deal Theodore either. Only thing going is that Theodore doesn't have a NTC, easier to deal. Don't know if Schmidt has agreed to waive?
- grahamzky

Is Winnipeg on his list? I hope it is so when he waives, he will be another example of a player waiving it to come to Winnipeg.
Rexypoo
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 12 @ 8:32 PM ET
But they were drafted ...hindsight is 20/20.
- bennythehat


And scouting is foresight. They were bad at the draft
Rexypoo
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 12 @ 8:33 PM ET
Schmidt to Vancouver for a 3rd. A F*CKING 3RD.

This organization is asleep at the wheel as always
grahamzky
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Oct 12 @ 8:35 PM ET
Schmidt to Vancouver for a 3rd. A F*CKING 3RD.

This organization is asleep at the wheel as always

- Rexypoo


Unless there's something about Schmidt we don't know, you'd think about 25 teams in the league could have offered more, wouldn't you?
grahamzky
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Oct 12 @ 8:39 PM ET
Unless there's something about Schmidt we don't know, you'd think about 25 teams in the league could have offered more, wouldn't you?
- grahamzky



Schmidt did have a 10-team NTC so, to be fair, who know what teams were on the list?
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 12 @ 8:43 PM ET
Unless there's something about Schmidt we don't know, you'd think about 25 teams in the league could have offered more, wouldn't you?
- grahamzky

I thought for sure a deal was done yesterday for Roslovic. It was all over social media.
BWJumper
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Oct 12 @ 9:03 PM ET
Schmidt to Vancouver for a 3rd. A F*CKING 3RD.

This organization is asleep at the wheel as always

- Rexypoo


StL has Krug and Scandella on the left side and no cap space, so maybe Dunn is available
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 12 @ 9:32 PM ET
Schmidt did have a 10-team NTC so, to be fair, who know what teams were on the list?
- grahamzky

I think the reason Vegas accepted Vancouver's deal was because they were not forced into taking back assets. Vegas gave away a contract in exchange for a pick that has a chance of being traded back to Van before 2022. It's the only logical explanation for trading a top 4 D in their own division.

Hopefully the Jets are able to recoup their own picks they gave Vegas for Eakin and Stastny, considering that we did them a huge solid for clearing cap space.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 12 @ 9:33 PM ET
StL has Krug and Scandella on the left side and no cap space, so maybe Dunn is available
- BWJumper

Popular consensus has Roslovic being traded soon. Any chance St. Louis does Dunn for Roslovic?
grahamzky
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Oct 12 @ 9:49 PM ET
StL has Krug and Scandella on the left side and no cap space, so maybe Dunn is available
- BWJumper


But about 13M available right now in IR. Not sure if Tarasenko and Steen will be back to open the season or not? If either one is long-term, they should be ok, I believe.
Rexypoo
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 12 @ 10:04 PM ET
Dunn right now is very similar to 2018-19, probably even better.

Let’s get the man, and run him with DeMelo and Morrissey with Pionk
JetFuel
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 10.08.2019

Oct 12 @ 10:28 PM ET
Popular consensus has Roslovic being traded soon. Any chance St. Louis does Dunn for Roslovic?
- TheUltimateJet


Doubt it.
JetFuel
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 10.08.2019

Oct 12 @ 10:31 PM ET
But about 13M available right now in IR. Not sure if Tarasenko and Steen will be back to open the season or not? If either one is long-term, they should be ok, I believe.
- grahamzky


Yeah they'll probably be able to use that LTIR to their advantage, also Dunn has no arbitration rights so it's not like he has a ton of options, can't see the Blues trading him when other then Parayko and Faulk the rest of their D core is pretty old, they do have that Perunovich kid coming up though so who knows maybe they'd part with him, not sure they trade him within the division though.
jetsnation
Winnipeg Jets
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Oct 12 @ 11:07 PM ET
Schmidt did have a 10-team NTC so, to be fair, who know what teams were on the list?
- grahamzky


You can be 100% sure Winnipeg was on his NT list . I'm also sure that the fans in Vancouver are ecstatic about getting Schmidt and they don't have any lame fans there that are screaming from the rooftops that they somehow helped out a DIVISION rival. Like WPG they took advantage of a cap situation in Vegas to improve their team.Thats all that matters. Here is what they are saying because they have real fans that understand hockey.

"Holy poop, impossible not to love that deal! What a steal. This is like adding JT Miller but without giving up the 1st. For me, that just made this offseason a B+.
- micah555"

That trade is not really much different than the Stastny deal Jets needed a second-line center that had previous chemistry and it cost us 4th, VCR needed a 2nd pair Dman and it cost them a third.

All my points were proven in one simple trade today. Your honour...the defense rests.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 12 @ 11:12 PM ET
You can be 100% sure Winnipeg was on his NT list . I'm also sure that the fans in Vancouver are ecstatic about getting Schmidt and they don't have any lame fans there that are screaming from the rooftops that they somehow helped out a DIVISION rival. Like WPG they took advantage of a cap situation in Vegas to improve their team.Thats all that matters. Here is what they are saying because they have real fans that understand hockey.

"Holy poop, impossible not to love that deal! What a steal. This is like adding JT Miller but without giving up the 1st. For me, that just made this offseason a B+.
- micah555"

That trade is not really much different than the Stastny deal Jets needed a second-line center that had previous chemistry and it cost us 4th, VCR needed a 2nd pair Dman and it cost them a third.

All my points were proven in one simple trade today. Your honour...the defense rests.

- jetsnation

The only thing that can logically be proven is that Vancouver had cap space and that they did not force Vegas to take back any assets. Most likely making their division rival the only team capable of making this trade.

Everything else is hearsay.
BWJumper
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Oct 12 @ 11:14 PM ET
But about 13M available right now in IR. Not sure if Tarasenko and Steen will be back to open the season or not? If either one is long-term, they should be ok, I believe.
- grahamzky


Steen will be fine Tarasenko is a question mark, to be re-evaluated in January. Hey I was just throwing it out there. They signed Krug to play left side and look pretty thin on the wing so maybe they want to address that weakness which makes Dunn trade bait
JetFuel
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 10.08.2019

Oct 12 @ 11:30 PM ET
You can be 100% sure Winnipeg was on his NT list . I'm also sure that the fans in Vancouver are ecstatic about getting Schmidt and they don't have any lame fans there that are screaming from the rooftops that they somehow helped out a DIVISION rival. Like WPG they took advantage of a cap situation in Vegas to improve their team.Thats all that matters. Here is what they are saying because they have real fans that understand hockey.

"Holy poop, impossible not to love that deal! What a steal. This is like adding JT Miller but without giving up the 1st. For me, that just made this offseason a B+.
- micah555"

That trade is not really much different than the Stastny deal Jets needed a second-line center that had previous chemistry and it cost us 4th, VCR needed a 2nd pair Dman and it cost them a third.

All my points were proven in one simple trade today. Your honour...the defense rests.

- jetsnation


And my cousin on the coast can't get over all the morons out there who are losing their minds that Benning didn't sign Markstrom, Tanev and Toffoli, there were plenty of idiot Canucks fans who were pissed about the Miller trade but it worked out.

I said Chevy should of made the JT Miller trade but I was told that was a bad idea, still think I was right about that.

Toews had no trade protection, there's no excuses for not making that trade.
JetFuel
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 10.08.2019

Oct 12 @ 11:35 PM ET
The only thing that can logically be proven is that Vancouver had cap space and that they did not force Vegas to take back any assets. Most likely making their division rival the only team capable of making this trade.

Everything else is hearsay.

- TheUltimateJet


Honestly don't think the Jets were in on Schmidt, his no trade list was a barrier, can't see Vegas caring about taking Roslovic, they could sign him cheap and keep him or easily flip him for a pick, probably a better pick then they got from Vancouver.. Lol

There's no excuse for not making the Toews trade though, he's got no trade protection.
BWJumper
Winnipeg Jets
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Oct 12 @ 11:47 PM ET
Honestly don't think the Jets were in on Schmidt, his no trade list was a barrier, can't see Vegas caring about taking Roslovic, they could sign him cheap and keep him or easily flip him for a pick, probably a better pick then they got from Vancouver.. Lol

There's no excuse for not making the Toews trade though, he's got no trade protection.

- JetFuel


Pokes a few holes in people's theories that teams won't trade within the division. 3rd round pick in 2022 is a zero return. If they got any other offer that involved a 4th-6th round pick from a team outside their division they should have taken it.
JetFuel
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 10.08.2019

Oct 13 @ 12:39 AM ET
Pokes a few holes in people's theories that teams won't trade within the division. 3rd round pick in 2022 is a zero return. If they got any other offer that involved a 4th-6th round pick from a team outside their division they should have taken it.
- BWJumper


True but to be fair considering the league wide cap crunch and the urgent need to get someone with a bigger cap hit moved out plus Schmidt's trade protection which instantly eliminated 10 teams the Knights might not have been able to be as choosy as they normally would of been.

Really too bad the Jets couldn't of pulled this off somehow, oh well, won't fault Chevy for this one.
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