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Mahewman
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Boston Bruins
Location: NH
Joined: 07.01.2009

Oct 14 @ 6:14 PM ET
The NESN article claims $750k cap hit for Zboril and $700k cap hit each for the other two. I don't claim to know how these types of contracts impact the cap but just relaying what NESN is saying. Zboril's contract isn't listed as two way (it very well may be though).
- bluemoon737


Interesting. Yeah I dont know fully either. I think Zborils cap hit will be wherever he is playing. He will have to pass waivers if sent down though.

I believe.
Mahewman
Season Ticket Holder
Boston Bruins
Location: NH
Joined: 07.01.2009

Oct 14 @ 6:19 PM ET
One player that i forgot about is Jack Ahcan. Maybe, they plan for him to try and fill the Krug role.

I am already ready for hockey to be back.
bluemoon737
Boston Bruins
Location: Portsmouth, NH
Joined: 04.19.2019

Oct 14 @ 6:49 PM ET
One player that i forgot about is Jack Ahcan. Maybe, they plan for him to try and fill the Krug role.

I am already ready for hockey to be back.

- Mahewman

Come on, what are you talking about, it's Oct 14th...we're 3 games into the season.
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Oct 14 @ 9:10 PM ET
Could be worse.... your team could sign Jake Allen to 5.75 over 2 years. lol
- Tachmo


Even with a discounted extension Habs are paying $13.375M for Goaltending after next year. 14-man roster eating up $65M of a projected $81.5M CAP. Are they not planning on having any forwards? How many goals can their D-men and Goalies score?


Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Oct 15 @ 6:07 AM ET
Even with a discounted extension Habs are paying $13.375M for Goaltending after next year. 14-man roster eating up $65M of a projected $81.5M CAP. Are they not planning on having any forwards? How many goals can their D-men and Goalies score?



- Nasty_Duck


their forward crew is young. That Suzuki kid impressed the hell out of me down the stretch and into the playoffs. He’s gonna be a player. KK, too. You guys should swat them around for another year or two, but they’re gonna be a pain to deal with before long. I see Caufield is waiting another year, but that kid has high scoring potential, too.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Oct 15 @ 7:19 AM ET
their forward crew is young. That Suzuki kid impressed the hell out of me down the stretch and into the playoffs. He’s gonna be a player. KK, too. You guys should swat them around for another year or two, but they’re gonna be a pain to deal with before long. I see Caufield is waiting another year, but that kid has high scoring potential, too.
- Hesh_


Long term they need to look at their coach. Julien is the wrong coach for a youth movement.
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Oct 15 @ 10:02 AM ET
Long term they need to look at their coach. Julien is the wrong coach for a youth movement.
- glove_was_stuck


True, but we've seen some improvement. The #1 and #2 centre positions in the last playoffs were rookies.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Oct 15 @ 12:44 PM ET
True, but we've seen some improvement. The #1 and #2 centre positions in the last playoffs were rookies.
- Not_Yan


Good point. That's as far as I've seen Claude outside of his comfort zone. Could be a new look for him.
bluemoon737
Boston Bruins
Location: Portsmouth, NH
Joined: 04.19.2019

Oct 15 @ 1:04 PM ET
Good point. That's as far as I've seen Claude outside of his comfort zone. Could be a new look for him.
- glove_was_stuck

Claude wasn't there was he? Wasn't he still recovering from his heart issue?
bluemoon737
Boston Bruins
Location: Portsmouth, NH
Joined: 04.19.2019

Oct 15 @ 2:43 PM ET
Well Dadonov is off the table. Our front office is really committed to making the team better...
Tachmo
Boston Bruins
Location: Canada, SK
Joined: 07.01.2008

Oct 16 @ 9:37 AM ET
i’m trying my best to give Don the benefit of the doubt and just assuming he will improve the Bruins for next season. But i’m losing patience.
Chara and his agent are reportedly looking elsewhere now. If we lose Krug and Chara and replace them with Zboril that is gross.

I may be a minority but I want Chara back. If he signs to a contender for 1 yr 1 mil deal I will be pissed.
bluemoon737
Boston Bruins
Location: Portsmouth, NH
Joined: 04.19.2019

Oct 16 @ 10:00 AM ET
i’m trying my best to give Don the benefit of the doubt and just assuming he will improve the Bruins for next season. But i’m losing patience.
Chara and his agent are reportedly looking elsewhere now. If we lose Krug and Chara and replace them with Zboril that is gross.

I may be a minority but I want Chara back. If he signs to a contender for 1 yr 1 mil deal I will be pissed.

- Tachmo

I'm right there with you on all accounts.
The Chara situation is not the same as say Bourque where you were glad to see him go to a team that had a chance for him to finally get a Cup. Chara needs to finish here one way or another.
Tachmo
Boston Bruins
Location: Canada, SK
Joined: 07.01.2008

Oct 16 @ 10:10 AM ET
I'm right there with you on all accounts.
The Chara situation is not the same as say Bourque where you were glad to see him go to a team that had a chance for him to finally get a Cup. Chara needs to finish here one way or another.

- bluemoon737


Chara is washed for sure. But he is an instrumental leader. Tough as nails and generally holds everyone accountable on the ice. Plays 20+ min a game, deadly on the PK, and was a +25 last year. Hell for 1 mil a season it’s a no brainer.
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Oct 16 @ 10:23 AM ET
Chara is washed for sure. But he is an instrumental leader. Tough as nails and generally holds everyone accountable on the ice. Plays 20+ min a game, deadly on the PK, and was a +25 last year. Hell for 1 mil a season it’s a no brainer.
- Tachmo


It might depend on how much he wants and what he thinks his role is.
He is no longer a 1st pairing D-man - has slowed down way too much for that.
If he will take ~ $1M and play 3rd-line minutes (plus some PK) then he can still be effective. If he's looking for more than than that in either case maybe it's time to move on or retire.

Bruins can still try to spend money ear-marked for Krug on another defender.
bluemoon737
Boston Bruins
Location: Portsmouth, NH
Joined: 04.19.2019

Oct 16 @ 10:26 AM ET
Chara is washed for sure. But he is an instrumental leader. Tough as nails and generally holds everyone accountable on the ice. Plays 20+ min a game, deadly on the PK, and was a +25 last year. Hell for 1 mil a season it’s a no brainer.
- Tachmo

I suppose there's always the possibility the sticking point is expected minutes. Chara is a proud man and might not be happy with a diminished role.
bluemoon737
Boston Bruins
Location: Portsmouth, NH
Joined: 04.19.2019

Oct 16 @ 10:28 AM ET
It might depend on how much he wants and what he thinks his role is.
He is no longer a 1st pairing D-man - has slowed down way too much for that.
If he will take ~ $1M and play 3rd-line minutes (plus some PK) then he can still be effective. If he's looking for more than than that in either case maybe it's time to move on or retire.

Bruins can still try to spend money ear-marked for Krug on another defender.

- Nasty_Duck

They are down to $10.3M and still need to sign Gryz and Debrusk...
Tachmo
Boston Bruins
Location: Canada, SK
Joined: 07.01.2008

Oct 16 @ 11:21 AM ET
I suppose there's always the possibility the sticking point is expected minutes. Chara is a proud man and might not be happy with a diminished role.
- bluemoon737



could be.... Hopefully he should know his role by now, but maybe not. You are right he is a proud man.

Crazy to hear Boston fans show so much disrespect to this man on social media, it’s disgusting. He’s been the CAPTAIN forever and went through a brick wall many times for his teammates. LOL he is not the reason this team can’t hoist another cup.
bluemoon737
Boston Bruins
Location: Portsmouth, NH
Joined: 04.19.2019

Oct 16 @ 12:30 PM ET
could be.... Hopefully he should know his role by now, but maybe not. You are right he is a proud man.

Crazy to hear Boston fans show so much disrespect to this man on social media, it’s disgusting. He’s been the CAPTAIN forever and went through a brick wall many times for his teammates. LOL he is not the reason this team can’t hoist another cup.

- Tachmo

No he is NOT the reason. Although I don't really like the stat itself, he continues to one of the top +/- guys on the team. Really, it's not a player or group of players, it's the "team" management has put together that is the problem.
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Oct 16 @ 12:37 PM ET
They are down to $10.3M and still need to sign Gryz and Debrusk...
- bluemoon737


Neither had a stellar season and both are RFAs - so have very little leverage.
They will need to sign modest bridge deals.
That should leave AT LEAST $5M.

Wasn't Krug being offered ~ 6.5? Where has that money been allocated?

As an aside - why are we paying Coyle 5.25M ?
Tachmo
Boston Bruins
Location: Canada, SK
Joined: 07.01.2008

Oct 16 @ 1:00 PM ET
Neither had a stellar season and both are RFAs - so have very little leverage.
They will need to sign modest bridge deals.
That should leave AT LEAST $5M.

Wasn't Krug being offered ~ 6.5? Where has that money been allocated?

As an aside - why are we paying Coyle 5.25M ?

- Nasty_Duck


Coyle is a stud! He’s a force in the playoffs. Unfortunately he’s stuck on the 3rd line which is a shame and hurts his overall production. Much much more valuable than his stats
bluemoon737
Boston Bruins
Location: Portsmouth, NH
Joined: 04.19.2019

Oct 16 @ 1:01 PM ET
Neither had a stellar season and both are RFAs - so have very little leverage.
They will need to sign modest bridge deals.
That should leave AT LEAST $5M.

Wasn't Krug being offered ~ 6.5? Where has that money been allocated?

As an aside - why are we paying Coyle 5.25M ?

- Nasty_Duck

I have no problem with Coyle's contract. Gryz is going to arbitration and I would expect $2.5M minimum out of that. Debrusk is going to cost ,even on a bridge deal, $3.5M to $4M then another $1M to Chara. So unless a trade happens, we aren't getting anymore real help.
Shaundre93
Boston Bruins
Location: Standish, ME
Joined: 07.18.2013

Oct 16 @ 2:48 PM ET
Interesting. Yeah I dont know fully either. I think Zborils cap hit will be wherever he is playing. He will have to pass waivers if sent down though.

I believe.

- Mahewman


When it comes to one way and two way contracts, the designation only effects pay. Meaning Zboril will make 750k in the nhl or ahl next season, whereas had he signed a two way deal he might only make 90K while in the ahl

I believe regardless of contract they can bury like 950k of contract in the minors. So none of those contracts will count against the cap if they’re not in the nhl
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Oct 16 @ 2:59 PM ET
I have no problem with Coyle's contract. Gryz is going to arbitration and I would expect $2.5M minimum out of that. Debrusk is going to cost ,even on a bridge deal, $3.5M to $4M then another $1M to Chara. So unless a trade happens, we aren't getting anymore real help.
- bluemoon737


If Bruins are paying 5.25 for a 3rd-line C who has been average (had 1 decent playoffs his entire career) 2.5 for an RFA that has averaged 22 pts/82 and 3.5-4M for a forward who mailed it in for 2 consecutive playoffs - Bruins are (frank)ed.

Where is the money that would have gone to Krug? Did even try to re-sign him?
Mahewman
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Boston Bruins
Location: NH
Joined: 07.01.2009

Oct 16 @ 3:19 PM ET
No he is NOT the reason. Although I don't really like the stat itself, he continues to one of the top +/- guys on the team. Really, it's not a player or group of players, it's the "team" management has put together that is the problem.
- bluemoon737


Way too much gloom and doom in these forums. The Bruins could do nothing but sign Gryz and DeBrusk and they are still Stanley Cup contenders.

I would prefer they keep Chara around for another year but probably not for more than 1m. He still does certain things well but has slowed quite a bit.
bluemoon737
Boston Bruins
Location: Portsmouth, NH
Joined: 04.19.2019

Oct 16 @ 3:26 PM ET
Way too much gloom and doom in these forums. The Bruins could do nothing but sign Gryz and DeBrusk and they are still Stanley Cup contenders.

I would prefer they keep Chara around for another year but probably not for more than 1m. He still does certain things well but has slowed quite a bit.

- Mahewman

Playoff contenders? Yes. Cup contenders? Only if the chips fall perfectly like they did in 2019.
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