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SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Oct 16 @ 3:36 PM ET
easy now, our Illinois poster said he is a pathetic prospect because he didn't score goals last season


kid was literally a top 10 player in that league on ppg production but stunk


of course that poster hates reinhart as well

- homiedclown

did he have a trouble with his size in the AHL? isn't he short?


edit: never mind he didn't play in rochester..
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Oct 16 @ 3:37 PM ET
I'm not so sure the Taylor Hall signing was so much of a "we need to upgrade at wing" move so much as "if you can get a guy that talented, you do it".
- buffalofan19


Who knows if they go hard after Laine or another wing upgrade? They obviously are spending more than 70 million and staying so lean. They might be getting a little chubby.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Oct 16 @ 3:38 PM ET
Just curious if it's exhausting going out of the way to hate a player on the team you supposedly cheer for? My guess is not really, but I find myself wanting all of them to play well. Sam has steadily gotten better, and has an underrated defensive game. Is he a world beater? No. Is he the teams biggest problem. Hardly. But keep making these posts to "show" that he is just because Ralph had a connection (which I'm also happy he did"
- SDSabre


How about the love for Risto and now Girgs because, ya know, they are Sabres and wear the blue and gold and blind loyalty and all?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Oct 16 @ 3:39 PM ET
$6m for 5 years or $5 for 1 year

Thats my final guess(es)

- jcragcrumple


If it’s 1 year is he still a RFA? Because if he is that makes the most sense for both parties. Sabres won’t have to protect him for expansion and Reinhart can wait a year to see how the cap rebounds...

Edit: or would he still be eligible to be selected
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Oct 16 @ 3:41 PM ET
PSE did reach out to Del which is surprising but good at the same time
- Stripes77



It’s funny how that Del guy got screwed by PSE. I mean he should’ve gone something with it. But never did.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Oct 16 @ 3:42 PM ET
It’s funny how that Del guy got screwed by PSE. I mean he should’ve gone something with it. But never did.
- Sabretooth9



Apparently they’re going to work together
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Oct 16 @ 3:43 PM ET
If it’s 1 year is he still a RFA? Because if he is that makes the most sense for both parties. Sabres won’t have to protect him for expansion and Reinhart can wait a year to see how the cap rebounds...

Edit: or would he still be eligible to be selected

- Stripes77


He'd still be an RFA. Not sure about the protection implications but doing the protection list, I was struggling to come up with 7 forwards to protect anyway, including Reinhart
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Oct 16 @ 3:45 PM ET
I never said Ruostolainen was a pathetic prospect but our Florida recent Sabres basher wanted him on the team ASAP and I said with the league he is playing in and size don't bank on him playing with Sabres next year. Go ahead put your lineups together and have him as your 4th line center whatever next year. New, shiny toys are fun huh?
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Oct 16 @ 3:50 PM ET
How about the love for Risto and now Girgs because, ya know, they are Sabres and wear the blue and gold and blind loyalty and all?
- GilPerreault11


You have me confused with someone else. Yeah, I want all of them to succeed because they are Sabres. That's kind of the point of being a fan of the team not the player. And they all have a role to play. Risto turned it around this season after last. I already said what I'd be happy with for Girgs as a player on his new contract. Has Sam really underplayed the 3.5M contract he's been on the past two seasons? Just a question, bet you won't answer it.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Oct 16 @ 3:51 PM ET
He'd still be an RFA. Not sure about the protection implications but doing the protection list, I was struggling to come up with 7 forwards to protect anyway, including Reinhart
- jcragcrumple


Yeah thinking about the team other than the list protects it’s pretty weird. Unless Hall is re-signed then it comes 5 and the what? Maybe Staal?

Eichel
Hall?
Skinner
Olofsson
Reinhart
Staal?
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 16 @ 3:52 PM ET
Apparently they’re going to work together
- Stripes77


What are we talking about?
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Oct 16 @ 3:52 PM ET
He'd still be an RFA. Not sure about the protection implications but doing the protection list, I was struggling to come up with 7 forwards to protect anyway, including Reinhart
- jcragcrumple


They'd still have to protect him, as long as they make a QO.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 16 @ 3:53 PM ET
did he have a trouble with his size in the AHL? isn't he short?


edit: never mind he didn't play in rochester..

- SabresFaninIndiana

"People who were banking on this guy making an impact next year might want to keep it in their pants. "


all because the kid went 12 games w/o a goal

he had 10 points in those 12 games though


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 16 @ 3:55 PM ET
did he have a trouble with his size in the AHL? isn't he short?


edit: never mind he didn't play in rochester..

- SabresFaninIndiana

his rant out of right field started here, if you want to kill some time before 5pm

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=165142&page=8



turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Oct 16 @ 3:55 PM ET
Reinhart is not from CGY. He's from Vancouver and played for the Kootenay Ice, halfway between Van and CGY. He has no ties to CGY from what I gather.
- SDSabre



Ahh yes.....
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 16 @ 3:57 PM ET
Yeah thinking about the team other than the list protects it’s pretty weird. Unless Hall is re-signed then it comes 5 and the what? Maybe Staal?

Eichel
Hall?
Skinner
Olofsson
Reinhart
Staal?

- Stripes77

eichel-skinner-olofsson-reinhart-tage-casey-player x


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 16 @ 3:57 PM ET
What are we talking about?
- buffalofan19

terry and kim trademarked bills mafia this week
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 16 @ 3:58 PM ET
terry and kim trademarked bills mafia this week
- homiedclown


I've always hated that name.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Oct 16 @ 4:01 PM ET
You have me confused with someone else. Yeah, I want all of them to succeed because they are Sabres. That's kind of the point of being a fan of the team not the player. And they all have a role to play. Risto turned it around this season after last. I already said what I'd be happy with for Girgs as a player on his new contract. Has Sam really underplayed the 3.5M contract he's been on the past two seasons? Just a question, bet you won't answer it.
- SDSabre


I have a bigger picture for bettering the team. I see that the team has been nothing but a loser with Sam on the top line and the two years with Skinner, same. They aren't wingers you win with you need better ones for the Sabres to win. I am not loyal to players who help this team lose in the way it was made up, why would I be? Why would anyone be? Just because they wear Sabres jerseys and helped them lose? That is just plain stupid. Besides Jack, Dahlin, now Hall and probably Cozens I am not loyal to any of them if they can help build a better team.

This is like being dedicated to the players on the Bills' teams over the last two decades who never made the playoffs before the last two years like Tyrod Taylor, or Chris Kelsay. It would be mornic.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Oct 16 @ 4:02 PM ET
I've always hated that name.
- buffalofan19

It's trash
kritter65
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2009

Oct 16 @ 4:02 PM ET
I've always hated that name.
- buffalofan19


Yep, really really stupid name. Makes me hate this city even more.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Oct 16 @ 4:08 PM ET
I have a bigger picture for bettering the team. I see that the team has been nothing but a loser with Sam on the top line and the two years with Skinner, same. They aren't wingers you win with you need better ones for the Sabres to win. I am not loyal to players who help this team lose in the way it was made up, why would I be? Why would anyone be? Just because they wear Sabres jerseys and helped them lose? That is just plain stupid. Besides Jack, Dahlin, now Hall and probably Cozens I am not loyal to any of them if they can help build a better team.

This is like being dedicated to the players on the Bills' teams over the last two decades who never made the playoffs before the last two years like Tyrod Taylor, or Chris Kelsay. It would be mornic.

- GilPerreault11


Yeah, I've always said if we can get better players using other players (Sam) then go for it. That said, acting like he's a third liner getting drug along by Eichel is just silly. And to be completely frank here, last year was the first year that Eichel really, and I mean really shined to the point that he was starting to get noticed around the league. Getting better players should always be the goal. But you seem to want to dump Sam, unless your just saying having him on the second line which is whatever. My whole philosophy is getting the best players all to play for Buffalo that you can. For a true team to compete with the big boys. This would be adding to players like Sam and Skinner because as much as you don't like them, it's hard to argue that they aren't at least top 6 players on most NHL teams, and borderline top line players. I mean, the Skinner - Eichel - Sam line was one of the most dominant lines for a large stretch 2 years ago.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Oct 16 @ 4:15 PM ET
Yeah, I've always said if we can get better players using other players (Sam) then go for it. That said, acting like he's a third liner getting drug along by Eichel is just silly. And to be completely frank here, last year was the first year that Eichel really, and I mean really shined to the point that he was starting to get noticed around the league. Getting better players should always be the goal. But you seem to want to dump Sam, unless your just saying having him on the second line which is whatever. My whole philosophy is getting the best players all to play for Buffalo that you can. For a true team to compete with the big boys. This would be adding to players like Sam and Skinner because as much as you don't like them, it's hard to argue that they aren't at least top 6 players on most NHL teams, and borderline top line players. I mean, the Skinner - Eichel - Sam line was one of the most dominant lines for a large stretch 2 years ago.
- SDSabre


The reason some people don't like him is that he's completely unspectacular. Conversely he's incredibly solid and well rounded with the exception of a physical game. And he's durable. Every team in the league would take Sam Reinhart on their team
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Oct 16 @ 4:15 PM ET
If it’s 1 year is he still a RFA? Because if he is that makes the most sense for both parties. Sabres won’t have to protect him for expansion and Reinhart can wait a year to see how the cap rebounds...

Edit: or would he still be eligible to be selected

- Stripes77



Thought the player had to be under contract?
Camel
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sudbury, ON
Joined: 04.25.2009

Oct 16 @ 4:18 PM ET
wild thought:

Sign UFA Hoffman

Trade Reinhart, Miller, Mittlestadt and Hutton to CGY for

Monahan, Hanifan, Riitich

Reinhart is from CGY and CGY seems to not be thrilled with Monahan

- turbo044



Calgary would do it.
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