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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 17 @ 11:08 AM ET
Gurgs at 2.2 needs 12 goals 12 assists =24 points for his contract to be fair.
*a defensive specialist with all 19 points last year 5 x 5

Sam now getting 7 million for 65 points ?
Guy hooked to eichel and the #1 pp unit


Playing favorites ion s

100,000 per point seems fair for a bases, not considering players usage/ pk/pp

- Boss34

Not lon setting the parameters of Rhino's deal, it's what the market has set. And the market set for what Girgs brings is about 1.5mill or lower.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 17 @ 11:13 AM ET
Not lon setting the parameters of Rhino's deal, it's what the market has set. And the market set for what Girgs brings is about 1.5mill or lower.
- Buff36

his life is to bash reinhart and a few posters on here


let it go, he is beyond hope to have any civil conversations on this topic and the archives prove it
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 17 @ 11:15 AM ET
Not lon setting the parameters of Rhino's deal, it's what the market has set. And the market set for what Girgs brings is about 1.5mill or lower.
- Buff36



How many 12 goal scorers that were 5th on their team in goals scored, signed for 1.5m or lower?

Approaching ufa and with 490 nhl games played

They signed girgs before the "market set" as well


Dude deserved a raise, he outplayed his last contract.

You have an opinion, which is not a fact.
Please prove our opinion to be true, I'll give you credit if /when due.

Why hasnt anyone given ka-boo-hoo-hun 3.5 or 2.2 or anything yet?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 17 @ 11:20 AM ET
How many 12 goal scorers that were 5th on their team in goals scored, signed for 1.5m or lower?

Approaching ufa and with 490 nhl games played

They signed girgs before the "market set" as well


Dude deserved a raise, he outplayed his last contract.

You have an opinion, which is not a fact.
Please prove our opinion to be true, I'll give you credit if /when due.

Why hasnt anyone given ka-boo-hoo-hun 3.5 or 2.2 or anything yet?

- Boss34

You are funny Boss, getting your panties in a bunch for Girgs. And never said Kahun would get 3.5 or whatever, said 2yrs 2.5mill a year. And I was wrong.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 17 @ 11:23 AM ET
his life is to bash reinhart and a few posters on here


let it go, he is beyond hope to have any civil conversations on this topic and the archives prove it

- homiedclown



Your life is to be a fake sabre organization bashing "insider" on hockeybuzz.

You are linked to Samson "skunk" reinfart for ever. You loveβ™₯️ him, and have defended his play whole heartily.

That is your legacy here.



And you guessed right that pommer would rejoin the Sabres and former teammate jbotts . Great call.

"Sam's not even in my top 20 favorite all time sabres"
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 17 @ 11:23 AM ET
How many 12 goal scorers that were 5th on their team in goals scored, signed for 1.5m or lower?


- Boss34

Josh Archibald signed 1.5 mil with oilers 12 goals 9 assists

IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 17 @ 11:24 AM ET
Gurgs at 2.2 needs 12 goals 12 assists =24 points for his contract to be fair.
*a defensive specialist with all 19 points last year 5 x 5

Sam now getting 7 million for 65 points ?
Guy hooked to eichel and the #1 pp unit


Playing favorites ion s

100,000 per point seems fair for a bases, not considering players usage/ pk/pp

- Boss34



You are so quick to respond, that you didn't really think it through.

Girg signed as a UFA when Covid 19 prices were in effect...3 year deal over paid by $900k (see my earlier post), at least 1 likely 2 years too long. Therefore, the $900k needs to generate production ... not effort, the effort is already paid for in the comparable of $1.3m. Yes, 24 should be expected IMO.

The projection of $7m for 65 points was pre-Covid. Sam's contract if paid outside Arb will be impacted by Covid, probably resulting in a little less $ and shorter term, I would guess.

24 / $2,200,00 = 0.000011
65 / $7,000,000 = 0.0000093

might be 2 points high on Girgs...whew, glad we cleared that piop show up, lol.

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 17 @ 11:24 AM ET
Your life is to be a fake sabre organization bashing "insider" on hockeybuzz.

You are linked to Samson "skunk" reinfart for ever. You loveβ™₯️ him, and have defended his play whole heartily.

That is your legacy here.



And you guessed right that pommer would rejoin the Sabres and former teammate jbotts . Great call.

"Sam's not even in my top 20 favorite all time sabres"
πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ‘ŽπŸ‘Ž

- Boss34

again, proving impossible to have a conversation with you

you literally bring nothing to this site other then proving your an internet tough guy with a sore ass because you couldn't get a reinhart autograph


Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 17 @ 11:26 AM ET
You are funny Boss, getting your panties in a bunch for Girgs. And never said Kahun would get 3.5 or whatever, said 2yrs 2.5mill a year. And I was wrong.
- Buff36



So nothing to substantiate your claims? Kinda figured.

Most teams and fans understand how important their 5th leading goal scorer is to their team.
You don't low ball key players

Looks like milano and tre are ready for monday.

I think the Bill's bounce back and win a close game.
That's what good teams do
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 17 @ 11:27 AM ET
How many 12 goal scorers that were 5th on their team in goals scored, signed for 1.5m or lower?

Approaching ufa and with 490 nhl games played

They signed girgs before the "market set" as well


Dude deserved a raise, he outplayed his last contract.

You have an opinion, which is not a fact.
Please prove our opinion to be true, I'll give you credit if /when due.

Why hasnt anyone given ka-boo-hoo-hun 3.5 or 2.2 or anything yet?

- Boss34



Because his Covid market price is about $2.4sh...just a guess.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 17 @ 11:28 AM ET
Josh Archibald signed 1.5 mil with oilers 12 goals 9 assists
- homiedclown


You and your GD facts.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 17 @ 11:29 AM ET
Because his Covid market price is about $2.4sh...just a guess.
- IonSabres

sheary had more points then gus last year, where is he now?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 17 @ 11:30 AM ET
You and your GD facts.
- IonSabres

he will come back and say he was 6th in goals for the oilers


which is correct


anyone think Girgens is top 9 for goals next season with the sabres?


I have 100 bucks that says he won't be
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 17 @ 11:31 AM ET
So nothing to substantiate your claims? Kinda figured.

Most teams and fans understand how important their 5th leading goal scorer is to their team.
You don't low ball key players

Looks like milano and tre are ready for monday.

I think the Bill's bounce back and win a close game.
That's what good teams do

- Boss34



I certainly hope so!
Bill's usually Bill's themselves on national TV seems like over the past 7 or 8 years.
Let's just hope they don't poop the bed.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 17 @ 11:33 AM ET
in 7 seasons, girgens averages less then 9 goals a season


many of those years were getting top 6 minutes


the contract is inflated because the owners like him


is that a bad thing, perhaps but not worth the endless days of bandwidth talking about it

the owners like him and gave him 3 years with a bump



I am more concerned how the d and goalies shake out in the next few months as it solves nothing to spend your life looking in rear view mirror


Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 17 @ 11:34 AM ET
You are so quick to respond, that you didn't really think it through.

Girg signed as a UFA when Covid 19 prices were in effect...3 year deal over paid by $900k (see my earlier post), at least 1 likely 2 years too long. Therefore, the $900k needs to generate production ... not effort, the effort is already paid for in the comparable of $1.3m. Yes, 24 should be expected IMO.

The projection of $7m for 65 points was pre-Covid. Sam's contract if paid outside Arb will be impacted by Covid, probably resulting in a little less $ and shorter term, I would guess.

24 / $2,200,00 = 0.000011
65 / $7,000,000 = 0.0000093

might be 2 points high on Girgs...whew, glad we cleared that piop show up, lol.

- IonSabres


Fair enough - 11 goals and 11 assists for 2.2 seems fair on the surface. For girgensons.

I'm guessing playing with a former 40 point player in eatkids (TM sabretooph9) should boost his production.

He did play with larry and okposo quite often.

Although comparing girgs (goals for) is a concrete, on paper written response, you cant judge girgs team

Imagine arguing with jcrags/evane rodpussez on how gritty a guy was last night in the game?.

Wow did you see that effort ion s. ?

Doesnt fly around here.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 17 @ 11:39 AM ET
So nothing to substantiate your claims? Kinda figured.

Most teams and fans understand how important their 5th leading goal scorer is to their team.
You don't low ball key players

Looks like milano and tre are ready for monday.

I think the Bill's bounce back and win a close game.
That's what good teams do

- Boss34

Derek Grant, or Brad Richardson if you want to go that way. And he was the 5th leading goalscorer because we couldn't score goals, and something he does every 5yrs.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Oct 17 @ 11:42 AM ET
I certainly hope so!
Bill's usually Bill's themselves on national TV seems like over the past 7 or 8 years.
Let's just hope they don't poop the bed.

- IonSabres


They were pretty good vs dallas and Pittsburgh on National tv last year
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 17 @ 11:44 AM ET
again, proving impossible to have a conversation with you

you literally bring nothing to this site other then proving your an internet tough guy with a sore ass because you couldn't get a reinhart autograph

- homiedclown



What do you bring to the website?

Constantly bashing the pegulas
Constant fluffing of reinfart
Negative Nancy bs across the board
Bad Bill's takes
Terry has a great poker face takes.


Reinhart is "your" guy. Too late to bail.
Linked for eternity


Have a good afternoon. No need to continue this discussion.



IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 17 @ 11:48 AM ET
Fair enough - 11 goals and 11 assists for 2.2 seems fair on the surface. For girgensons.

I'm guessing playing with a former 40 point player in eatkids (TM sabretooph9) should boost his production.

He did play with larry and okposo quite often.

Although comparing girgs (goals for) is a concrete, on paper written response, you cant judge girgs team

Imagine arguing with jcrags/evane rodpussez on how gritty a guy was last night in the game?.

Wow did you see that effort ion s. ?

Doesnt fly around here.

- Boss34



I would guess that Eakin plays on the 3rd line initially, not sure that Girgs gets there this year myself. If so, to me it means both Tage and Mitts failed and are playing in Roch or whatever the plan is for the AHL. At that point the team is much better signing our friend Ka-BOOM!!!

I would think Girgs plays with Lazar and Okposo. I he does play 3rd line minutes, as I said yesterday, I'd then expect 30+ points, not stay at 22-24.

Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Oct 17 @ 11:49 AM ET
Would anyone trade samson and sign Hoffman to play rw?

The Hoff is 30, was at $5.1 per... What term and money would make sense?

Is Hoffman on a 3-4 year deal on a slight raise from the $5.1 >\< Samson At $6.5-$7?

Could you balance the team a bit better and add a pick(s) and/or prospect(s) by trading Samson and adding Hoffman to fill the RW slot?

Hall. Jack. Hoffman
Skinner. Staal. Cozens/Tage/Olo
Olo. Eatkids. Cozens/Tage
Girgs. Lazar. Okoposo
PK Larry
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Oct 17 @ 11:50 AM ET
if the sabres were to move reinhart, it's next offseason

assuming jack jr is ready
tage is a second line winger by then
cozens and casey look to be in a position to be difference makers


and they lock hall up for the left wing slot to get with skinner

- homiedclown


This all makes sense
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Oct 17 @ 11:53 AM ET
Not lon setting the parameters of Rhino's deal, it's what the market has set. And the market set for what Girgs brings is about 1.5mill or lower.
- Buff36


That β€œmarket” is for the league in general though
Doesn’t include the β€œBuff-a-tax”

This is a done deal anyways
Don’t think we need to beat Girgs being β€œoverpaid” or not to death.... do we?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 17 @ 11:55 AM ET
he will come back and say he was 6th in goals for the oilers


which is correct


anyone think Girgens is top 9 for goals next season with the sabres?


I have 100 bucks that says he won't be

- homiedclown



Good post
A+
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 17 @ 11:56 AM ET
I certainly hope so!
Bill's usually Bill's themselves on national TV seems like over the past 7 or 8 years.
Let's just hope they don't poop the bed.

- IonSabres



Thanksgiving last year was certainly a nationally televised cowboys beat down.

Josh allen shows up -- big time
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