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JetpackJesus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Honolulu, HI
Joined: 08.27.2007

Oct 22 @ 3:25 AM ET
This place gets so (frank)ing stupid sometimes. JFC.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 22 @ 5:00 AM ET
This place gets so (frank)ing stupid sometimes. JFC.
- JetpackJesus


You can't tell me what to do; you're not my dad!
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Oct 22 @ 7:55 AM ET
Wtf do Hawks fans on CapFriendly KNOW about what direction the team is gonna go?

No offense to you, or others, taking about getting PK88... but this is all premature

Haven’t even heard rumors from any experts about this supposed full rebuild....
have we?

I guess it’s something different to talk about though at least

And i think we’d all be thrilled about getting Kane
At least for a few hours....
then some will start b!tching about Risto & Girgs again 😂😂😂

- jdfitz77


The team itself used the term rebuild
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Oct 22 @ 8:09 AM ET
Connor Brown gets 3 years $3.6M AAV.

Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Oct 22 @ 8:17 AM ET
We should hopefully get some clarity regarding Ullmark and Reinhart this weekend if they are able to strike deals before their arbitration dates.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Oct 22 @ 8:42 AM ET
We should hopefully get some clarity regarding Ullmark and Reinhart this weekend if they are able to strike deals before their arbitration dates.
- Pegullaville



And then a trade for Pat Kane
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Oct 22 @ 8:45 AM ET
And then a trade for Pat Kane
- Powerslave


I know some people doubt that Kane and/or Toews will be traded but we've seen this movie before. The team kind of makes it obvious that a rebuild is coming and then let the players appear to be unhappy. The cracks start to show and then the the rumors start. A week or two later the player is gone.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Oct 22 @ 8:47 AM ET
I know some people doubt that Kane and/or Toews will be traded but we've seen this movie before. The team kind of makes it obvious that a rebuild is coming and then let the players appear to be unhappy. The cracks start to show and then the the rumors start. A week or two later the player is gone.
- Slump Buster



And Pegula (almost) always gets his man
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 22 @ 9:00 AM ET
We should hopefully get some clarity regarding Ullmark and Reinhart this weekend if they are able to strike deals before their arbitration dates.
- Pegullaville


Sunday night/Monday morning. Let's hope Kevyn is smarter than Jason and doesn't throw them all into a hearing.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 22 @ 9:06 AM ET
Bertuzzi, Ullmark and Reinhart are next on the 25th, 26th and 27th.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Oct 22 @ 9:10 AM ET
My wife's name is Patty. An Irishman who's name is Patrick is commonly referred to as Paddy. Not to nit-pick, but growing up in South Buffalo, it's kind of a big deal, lol.
- chugger38


Paddy is a nickname for Padraig in Ireland. Patty is also short for Patricia...Patrick Kane is called Patty Kane or Kaner because it’s hockey and they either put a y at the end of someone’s name or add the er
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 22 @ 9:12 AM ET
Rasmus Dahlin is ranked the #2 player under 23.

"Not up to my standards"
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 22 @ 9:16 AM ET
The team itself used the term rebuild
- jcragcrumple

It’s crazy how he tries to dictate what we can talk about, who is allowed to complain etc.

Hockeybuzz hall monitor
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 22 @ 9:22 AM ET
It’s crazy how he tries to dictate what we can talk about, who is allowed to complain etc.

Hockeybuzz hall monitor

- sbroads24


Ok troll stop b!tching!!!!!!!!
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Oct 22 @ 9:37 AM ET
Rasmus Dahlin is ranked the #2 player under 23.

"Not up to my standards"

- TheSabresTaco

who is #1?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 22 @ 9:39 AM ET
who is #1?
- SabresFaninIndiana

Gerbe Pegula
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Oct 22 @ 9:39 AM ET
who is #1?
- SabresFaninIndiana


Matthews
Camel
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sudbury, ON
Joined: 04.25.2009

Oct 22 @ 9:40 AM ET
It’s arbitration.

Player always asks for more then he’s worth, the team always low balls.

Arbitrator meets in the middle 95% of the time.

- Pegullaville

Correct me if I’m wrong but I’ve always thought arbitration meant one or the other. No picking in the middle. He or she picks the players submission or the teams.
A mediator would have leverage to meet in the middle.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Oct 22 @ 9:40 AM ET
Matthews
- Pegullaville

for some reason i thought he was older. thanks
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Oct 22 @ 9:42 AM ET
Correct me if I’m wrong but I’ve always thought arbitration meant one or the other. No picking in the middle. He or she picks the players submission or the teams.
A mediator would have leverage to meet in the middle.

- Camel


Arbitration sets the contract. A mediator would encourage the two sides to meet halfway
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Oct 22 @ 9:45 AM ET
Correct me if I’m wrong but I’ve always thought arbitration meant one or the other. No picking in the middle. He or she picks the players submission or the teams.
A mediator would have leverage to meet in the middle.

- Camel


Maybe it comes down to the difference between an arbiter and an arbitrator, which i believe was discussed at length here last August. Possibly without resolution. Possibly with resolution. Who can say? Maybe an arbiter could
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Oct 22 @ 9:52 AM ET
Maybe it comes down to the difference between an arbiter and an arbitrator, which i believe was discussed at length here last August. Possibly without resolution. Possibly with resolution. Who can say? Maybe an arbiter could
- jcragcrumple


Once the arbitration hearing starts the team and player can no longer negotiate freely.

Arbitrator decides the contract
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Oct 22 @ 9:56 AM ET
Once the arbitration hearing starts the team and player can no longer negotiate freely.

Arbitrator decides the contract

- Pegullaville


Not true. Teams and players can continue to negotiate until arbitration rules (3 days after hearing)
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Oct 22 @ 10:01 AM ET
Not true. Teams and players can continue to negotiate until arbitration rules (3 days after hearing)
- Stripes77



“Brown was scheduled to go before an arbitrator later today. One factor in both sides settling so close to the hearing was the new rule where no settlement could be reached after the hearing began per the MOU. Meaning they would have then had to wait for the arbitrator’s decision.”

https://twitter.com/capfr.../1319251098956423169?s=21
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Oct 22 @ 10:03 AM ET
Arbitration sets the contract. A mediator would encourage the two sides to meet halfway
- Stripes77


That is correct
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