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JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Oct 17 @ 6:10 PM ET
I swear to god Ranger fans have to have someone to irrationally dislike.
- mdw7413



I'm kidding.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Oct 18 @ 7:30 AM ET
one thing I agree with Larry Brooks, if you think Lafreniere isn't going to be in the top 6, you are out of your minds.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Oct 18 @ 9:11 AM ET
one thing I agree with Larry Brooks, if you think Lafreniere isn't going to be in the top 6, you are out of your minds.
- jimbro83


I don’t see anything wrong with having him on the 3rd line long enough to acclimate to the change in play over the QHMJL. If he is still there after the bulk of the season has been played, I agree.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Oct 18 @ 9:19 AM ET
I don’t see anything wrong with having him on the 3rd line long enough to acclimate to the change in play over the QHMJL. If he is still there after the bulk of the season has been played, I agree.
- Tonybere


I see him coming in with the same impact as McKinnon did in his rookie season, wasnt much of an adjustment switching from QMJHL to NHL for him

with the chance to have a lot of powerplay time with Panarin and Zib, LAF could easily match the number of powerplay points McKnnon did in his rookie season (17 points)

Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Oct 18 @ 10:00 AM ET
one thing I agree with Larry Brooks, if you think Lafreniere isn't going to be in the top 6, you are out of your minds.
- jimbro83

Going to write about that later. I think kind of covered it when they won the lottery and he was drafted. It clearly a topic of interest.
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Oct 18 @ 10:35 AM ET
one thing I agree with Larry Brooks, if you think Lafreniere isn't going to be in the top 6, you are out of your minds.
- jimbro83


Q. After having to trade away the 7th overall pick, why would Rangers rush 1st overall?

A. They won't! LaFranchise will start on the 3rd line to acclimate to NHL.

Our top 6 wasn't the problem last year. LaF will help boost the BOTTOM 6 and I think they will pair him with Chytil to get him going. Just my 2 cents...
OLDSCHOOL#6
New York Rangers
Joined: 10.14.2007

Oct 18 @ 10:52 AM ET
Q. After having to trade away the 7th overall pick, why would Rangers rush 1st overall?

A. They won't! LaFranchise will start on the 3rd line to acclimate to NHL.

Our top 6 wasn't the problem last year. LaF will help boost the BOTTOM 6 and I think they will pair him with Chytil to get him going. Just my 2 cents...

- TommyGTrain

The issue with this notion is, 3 rd lines are not a proving ground for new or high offensive talent. Their main goal should be hard to play against, hard on the forecheck, wear down the opponents D. The Rangers never seem to get this right, after all there’s only one puck, and 20 minutes in a period. If they feel Lafreniere needs 3rd line time, they have a problem.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 18 @ 10:58 AM ET
The issue with this notion is, 3 rd lines are not a proving ground for new or high offensive talent. Their main goal should be hard to play against, hard on the forecheck, wear down the opponents D. The Rangers never seem to get this right, after all there’s only one puck, and 20 minutes in a period. If they feel Lafreniere needs 3rd line time, they have a problem.
- OLDSCHOOL#6


Lafreniere supposedly is a player who is tough to play against and is a bit of a pain in the ass. There is no reason he can't start the season on the 3rd line.


Rangers had a 3rd line that was better than there 1st two awhile back. Zuke/Brass/Pouliot
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Oct 18 @ 11:04 AM ET
Lafreniere supposedly is a player who is tough to play against and is a bit of a pain in the ass. There is no reason he can't start the season on the 3rd line.


Rangers had a 3rd line that was better than there 1st two awhile back. Zuke/Brass/Pouliot

- mdw7413


If he was drafted last year and played in the NHL last season as an 18 year old, I think he would have been on 3rd line most of the time.

Another year older and entering the NHL as almost a 19 1/2 year old? I see first line with Zib all the way baby and Calder trophy.

If he was eligible last year he would have been drafted over Hughes and Kakko without a doubt.

The only thing I see stopping Lafreniere from winning Calder is Shesty winning it.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 18 @ 11:08 AM ET
If he was drafted last year and played in the NHL last season as an 18 year old, I think he would have been on 3rd line most of the time.

Another year older and entering the NHL as almost a 19 1/2 year old? I see first line with Zib all the way baby and Calder trophy.

If he was eligible last year he would have been drafted over Hughes and Kakko without a doubt.

The only thing I see stopping Lafreniere from winning Calder is Shesty winning it.

- jimbro83


Then we have Buch on the 3rd line, and he has pretty much been a disaster when he isn't with Zib. I'm trying to look at balance to start the season. I'm not saying Lafreniere should stay on the 3rd line, but I don't think it would be the worst thing to start there for a few weeks

Also if we are looking to have Chytil become the #2 center, lets give him a dynamic winger and see were it goes.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Oct 18 @ 11:09 AM ET
Then we have Buch on the 3rd line, and he has pretty much been a disaster when he isn't with Zib. I'm trying to look at balance to start the season. I'm not saying Lafreniere should stay on the 3rd line, but I don't think it would be the worst thing to start there for a few weeks
- mdw7413


Why can’t the line be Lafreniere-Zibinajed-Buchnevich? What’s wrong with that

Buch was playing the best hockey of his career when pause happened in March and that was with Kreider out
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Oct 18 @ 11:10 AM ET
You put him in a position to succeed right from the beginning, that’s in the top 6 either on Panarins line or Zibs line. Enough of the 3rd line nonsense and the Kreider can’t play on the 3rd line bc we’re paying him X amount of money. Kreider will balance the lineup on the 3rd line and possibly save him a little bit from the wear and tear with less minutes. Having 3 balanced lines is better than 2 top lines and 2 lines that are just thrown together. We need identity in the bottom 6, Kreider on the 3rd line gives us that.

LAF Zib Buch
Panarin Strome Kakko
Kreider Howden Chytil
Lemeuix Rooney Gauthier
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 18 @ 11:10 AM ET
Why can’t the line be Lafreniere-Zibinajed-Buchnevich? What’s wrong with that

Buch was playing the best hockey of his career when pause happened in March and that was with Kreider out

- jimbro83


I thought you would be moving Buch down and having Kreider stay with Zib.

If its Kreider going to the 3rd line I don't have much of a problem with that
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Oct 18 @ 11:14 AM ET
Why can’t the line be Lafreniere-Zibinajed-Buchnevich? What’s wrong with that

Buch was playing the best hockey of his career when pause happened in March and that was with Kreider out

- jimbro83


Hey, don’t get me wrong. If LAF is playing better than both Panarin and Kreider, then by all means, get him those top line minutes. I am by no means labelling him as a 3W. Just think our current top 6 LW’s are pretty decent.
All I’m saying is, we shouldn’t hang the expectations and hopes of the world on the kid on day 1.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Oct 18 @ 11:16 AM ET
You put him in a position to succeed right from the beginning, that’s in the top 6 either on Panarins line or Zibs line. Enough of the 3rd line nonsense and the Kreider can’t play on the 3rd line bc we’re paying him X amount of money. Kreider will balance the lineup on the 3rd line and possibly save him a little bit from the wear and tear with less minutes. Having 3 balanced lines is better than 2 top lines and 2 lines that are just thrown together. We need identity in the bottom 6, Kreider on the 3rd line gives us that.

LAF Zib Buch
Panarin Strome Kakko
Kreider Howden Chytil
Lemeuix Rooney Gauthier

- nyrangers9479


Those are pretty much the lines I want to see. Just not calling it the end of the world if it takes 20+ games for it to happen.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 18 @ 11:17 AM ET
Hey, don’t get me wrong. If LAF is playing better than both Panarin and Kreider, then by all means, get him those top line minutes. I am by no means labelling him as a 3W. Just think our current top 6 LW’s are pretty decent.
All I’m saying is, we shouldn’t hang the expectations and hopes of the world on the kid on day 1.

- Tonybere


Yup, like somehow letting him get his feet wet on the 3rd line for a couple weeks is going to ruin him and no chance to succeed.

I see both sides but to say if he starts on a 3rd line is the worst thing in the world is absurd
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Oct 18 @ 11:19 AM ET
Yup, like somehow letting him get his feet wet on the 3rd line for a couple weeks is going to ruin him and no chance to succeed.

I see both sides but to say if he starts on a 3rd line is the worst thing in the world is absurd

- mdw7413


Sometimes you’re alright, man.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 18 @ 11:20 AM ET
Sometimes you’re alright, man.
- Tonybere


Very rarely
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Oct 18 @ 11:21 AM ET
Alright boys. Have a great day!
I’m on the ice at noon to do my best Jesper Fast impersonation!
(that’s about as high as I can realistically set my dreams )
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Vagabond
Joined: 06.17.2010

Oct 18 @ 11:23 AM ET
You put him in a position to succeed right from the beginning, that’s in the top 6 either on Panarins line or Zibs line. Enough of the 3rd line nonsense and the Kreider can’t play on the 3rd line bc we’re paying him X amount of money. Kreider will balance the lineup on the 3rd line and possibly save him a little bit from the wear and tear with less minutes. Having 3 balanced lines is better than 2 top lines and 2 lines that are just thrown together. We need identity in the bottom 6, Kreider on the 3rd line gives us that.

LAF Zib Buch
Panarin Strome Kakko
Kreider Howden Chytil
Lemeuix Rooney Gauthier

- nyrangers9479


Chytil will not be playing wing, especially not RW.
OLDSCHOOL#6
New York Rangers
Joined: 10.14.2007

Oct 18 @ 11:32 AM ET
Those are pretty much the lines I want to see. Just not calling it the end of the world if it takes 20+ games for it to happen.
- Tonybere

If we’re lucky, they’ll play 40-50 games this year. An 82 game season seems awfully ambitious to me as I see things with this hideous virus.


TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Oct 18 @ 11:38 AM ET
Chytil will not be playing wing, especially not RW.
- aecliptic


They really need to get Chytil going this season. Thats another reason why LaFreniere should be his winger to start the year. If this kid is so good like advertised, he will make Chytil better.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Oct 18 @ 11:43 AM ET
They really need to get Chytil going this season. Thats another reason why LaFreniere should be his winger to start the year. If this kid is so good like advertised, he will make Chytil better.
- TommyGTrain

Asking a rookie to get other guys going on day 1 seems like quiet the task. Talk about setting him up to fail.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Vagabond
Joined: 06.17.2010

Oct 18 @ 11:43 AM ET
They really need to get Chytil going this season. Thats another reason why LaFreniere should be his winger to start the year. If this kid is so good like advertised, he will make Chytil better.
- TommyGTrain


So are you looking for another Strome in Chytil or another Zibanejad?

Do you want a guy who needs others to elevate him or do you want a guy at center who makes everyone around him better?

Lets say LAF is on a line with Chytil, they come out to a flying start because LAF beasts. Hes then promoted to a line with Zibanejad and Kreider is now playing with Chytil on the 3rd line and he sinks when hes the one left to make all the decisions. What then?
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Vagabond
Joined: 06.17.2010

Oct 18 @ 11:45 AM ET
Asking a rookie to get other guys going on day 1 seems like quiet the task. Talk about setting him up to fail.
- nyrangers9479


I think LAF will do his thing regardless what line hes on.
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