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winsix
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Oct 17 @ 8:55 PM ET
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GreatGigInTheSky
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Oct 17 @ 8:58 PM ET
My guess;

Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Robertson-Tavares-Marner
Vesey-Kerfoot-Simmonds
Mikheyev-Thornton-Spezza

- PatC80


This would be my guess, too. Don't like Vesey in the lineup, though. I'd rather Engvall in over him.

Robertson might be pushed back a year if there's too many guys.
PatC80
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Oct 17 @ 9:04 PM ET
As much as I like Jumbo, I think Perry would have be a better addition. I think Jumbo will bring a lot to the table though.
- Archaic

Why not get both?
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Oct 17 @ 9:04 PM ET
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PatC80
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Oct 17 @ 9:05 PM ET
This would be my guess, too. Don't like Vesey in the lineup, though. I'd rather Engvall in over him.

Robertson might be pushed back a year if there's too many guys.

- GreatGigInTheSky

I could see Robertson on the 2nd or 3rd line with Jumbo Joe. I think he's making the team.
gergeswillems
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Oct 17 @ 9:06 PM ET
This would be my guess, too. Don't like Vesey in the lineup, though. I'd rather Engvall in over him.

Robertson might be pushed back a year if there's too many guys.

- GreatGigInTheSky



winsix
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Oct 17 @ 9:09 PM ET
This would be my guess, too. Don't like Vesey in the lineup, though. I'd rather Engvall in over him.

Robertson might be pushed back a year if there's too many guys.

- GreatGigInTheSky


I'm hoping he gets a chance to unleash that rocket of a shot on Marner's line, but I think he's on the Marlies to start anyway. He's one of the few players on the team that doesn't have to clear waivers. I believe that will be a significant factor this year.




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Oct 17 @ 9:16 PM ET
This would be my guess, too. Don't like Vesey in the lineup, though. I'd rather Engvall in over him.

Robertson might be pushed back a year if there's too many guys.

- GreatGigInTheSky


Vesey-Kerfoot is my dark horse tandem to put up 35-40 points each; I think they could be really good, but Kerfoot at center needs to be thing, or that Kadri deal looks bad.

Robertson is a long-shot. I don't think we burn a year of ELC on him on any other season, but with possibly no minors, what do you with kids like that? Platoon them back and forth and just bounce guys on the taxi squad.
winsix
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Oct 17 @ 9:17 PM ET
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PatC80
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Oct 17 @ 9:18 PM ET



- gergeswillems

Is this like one of those 'spot the 5 differences' ?cause I don't see a difference
Aetherial
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Oct 17 @ 9:23 PM ET
Is this like one of those 'spot the 5 differences' ?cause I don't see a difference
- PatC80


Engvall has a dark spot under his left eye. the giraffe doesn't.
PatC80
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Oct 17 @ 9:26 PM ET
Engvall has a dark spot under his left eye. the giraffe doesn't.
- Aetherial

Good catch.
Zezel
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Oct 17 @ 9:30 PM ET

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Monkeypunk
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Oct 17 @ 9:37 PM ET
I could see Robertson on the 2nd or 3rd line with Jumbo Joe. I think he's making the team.
- PatC80


It's a tough call. I think I'm in line with what you're thinking as well. If Thornton can handle 3C duty (which I doubt), then Kerfoot can move up to the 2nd line on the wing.

Hyman - Matthews - Marner
Kerfoot - Tavares - Nylander
Vesey - Thornton - Mikheyev
Engvall - Spezza - Simmonds

If Thornton can't handle 3C, he'd probably be the 4C, and Mikheyev probably fights for the left side on the second line.

I have Engvall pencilled in, because I really like him, but none of us have really seen the other guys. That said . . .

Vesey: $900k
Boyd: $700k
Engvall: $1.25m, waivers exempt
Barbanov: $925k, waivers exempt, one-year ELC
Anderson: 10.2(c) RFA, waivers exempt
Robertson: $821k, ELC, must play in NHL or junior

Vesey has NHL experience with 3 straight years of 15+ goals. He probably has a job to lose.

With the considerations of Barbanov on a 1 year deal, I doubt he doesn't get a look at the NHL level. They were pretty high on him.

Boyd seems like a tweener. Anderson is still exempt from waivers.

So if Robertson isn't going to get a regular turn, do you want him on the NHL roster for more than 10 games burning up an ELC year if you can't get him in regularly and reliably? It feels like these moves exclude him.

What hurts Engvall is that he is still waivers exempt and makes $300 - $500k more than his competition - but I really like what he brings to the table, as I said. They might need his PK skills, especially with Kapanen gone.

I think we're trying to squish Barbanov, Vesey, Robertson and Engvall into 2 spots.
gergeswillems
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Oct 17 @ 9:50 PM ET
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leafsfann
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Oct 17 @ 9:58 PM ET
I would argue Nylander is earning his keep.

MM... not so much right now.

It feels like teams know how to play him especially in games that matters. A lot of times he makes his magic by drawing defenders to him but teams are just holding their defenders back and have him come. More often than not he loses his puck trying to beat defenders then.

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I'm not going to female dog about his contract, it's good value. 6.9 aav was fair the day it was signed. It would have been fine if it was signed in July. The holding out and eventually caving on Dubas part was the issue.
Zezel
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Oct 17 @ 10:01 PM ET
I'm not going to female dog about his contract, it's good value. 6.9 aav was fair the day it was signed. It would have been fine if it was signed in July. The holding out and eventually caving on Dubas part was the issue.
- leafsfann


I think Nylander wanted more
leafsfann
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Oct 17 @ 10:01 PM ET



- gergeswillems


I seen him play live against Arizona just after his call up. At first I thought he was just wearing a weird helmet that made his neck look longer. It's easily twice the length of mine though
leafsfann
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Oct 17 @ 10:04 PM ET
I think Nylander wanted more
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We may never know. The hold our leads to the summer of Ferris a year later, though.
gergeswillems
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Oct 17 @ 10:06 PM ET
I seen him play live against Arizona just after his call up. At first I thought he was just wearing a weird helmet that made his neck look longer. It's easily twice the length of mine though
- leafsfann

I wonder if Engvall is related to Chara?

Zezel
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Oct 17 @ 10:08 PM ET
We may never know. The hold our leads to the summer of Ferris a year later, though.
- leafsfann


Don't worry, Matthews will win the Rocket, Marner will get a zillion points.
dmnted
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Oct 17 @ 10:09 PM ET
That’s why trading away Marleau was a huge mistake. He should have said to MM look, I want Marleau around. You’ll get your chance to make money later but losing your mentor at this point isn’t just acceptable. If you don’t want to sign at discount, sign for 1 year and let’s do this again next year.

I mean we could have drafted Jarvis, if nothing else

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Zezel
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Oct 17 @ 10:13 PM ET
I wonder if Engvall is related to Chara?


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They're both part Sasquatch
leafsfann
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Oct 17 @ 10:13 PM ET
I wonder if Engvall is related to Chara?


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There's a man that's just big. I can't imagine what it would be like standing next to him
dmnted
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Oct 17 @ 10:17 PM ET
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