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Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

Oct 20 @ 3:21 PM ET
Mike Augello: Are the Leafs and Mikheyev headed to arbitration?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 20 @ 3:22 PM ET

yes, thanks..

time for a new blog
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Oct 20 @ 3:24 PM ET
Mike Augello: Are the Leafs and Mikheyev headed to arbitration?
- mikeinbuffalo



What does Commish mean in your title. 4th time I have asked..
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 20 @ 3:27 PM ET
What does Commish mean in your title. 4th time I have asked..
- bixll


means he runs this bish
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 20 @ 3:28 PM ET
What does Commish mean in your title. 4th time I have asked..
- bixll



It means he is The Assistant to the regional Manager
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Oct 20 @ 3:31 PM ET
What does Commish mean in your title. 4th time I have asked..
- bixll

Live cam at the Commish' office when he read your Q:
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 20 @ 3:33 PM ET
Mike Augello: Are the Leafs and Mikheyev headed to arbitration?
- mikeinbuffalo


Maybe
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Oct 20 @ 3:35 PM ET
Putting the cap situation into perspective . . . there are 12 forwards, 7 defensemen and 2 goalies under contract on the NHL roster right now, which when you include buried contract value for Engvall and retained transactions for Kessel amounts to $80.3 million.

If Sandin is not going to be playing, his $900k is not there. If Robertson doesn't make the roster, his $822k is not there. That leaves $3.2 million to sign Dermott & Mikheyev and have a roster of 12F, 7D, 2 G.

If Mikheyev comes in at $1.3, Dermot comes in at $1m, that would likely leave room for Barbanov or Anderson or whomever. With a couple of weeks of time, Engvall would likely fit under the cap and could be called up . . . . there's not a lot of room, and in the event of injuries to low cost players, there's less room to replace them under LTIR rules if we sit too close to the cap.

senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 20 @ 3:40 PM ET
Putting the cap situation into perspective . . . there are 12 forwards, 7 defensemen and 2 goalies under contract on the NHL roster right now, which when you include buried contract value for Engvall and retained transactions for Kessel amounts to $80.3 million.

If Sandin is not going to be playing, his $900k is not there. If Robertson doesn't make the roster, his $822k is not there. That leaves $3.2 million to sign Dermott & Mikheyev and have a roster of 12F, 7D, 2 G.

If Mikheyev comes in at $1.3, Dermot comes in at $1m, that would likely leave room for Barbanov or Anderson or whomever. With a couple of weeks of time, Engvall would likely fit under the cap and could be called up . . . . there's not a lot of room, and in the event of injuries to low cost players, there's less room to replace them under LTIR rules if we sit too close to the cap.

- Monkeypunk


I think the moves this off season push him back (Probably best), but what are the options for him if he is not in the NHL?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 20 @ 3:44 PM ET
It means he is The Assistant to the regional Manager
- senstroll



Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 20 @ 3:46 PM ET
I think Mikheyev deserves more than 1.2M.

He should get something close to 2M for it to be fair imo. He's gonna be an important part of the Leafs next season.

Book it.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 20 @ 3:54 PM ET
I think Mikheyev deserves more than 1.2M.

He should get something close to 2M for it to be fair imo. He's gonna be an important part of the Leafs next season.

Book it.

- Scabeh


I think he'll be our 2nd or 3rd line LW, but he needs to come in at a cheaper price.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Oct 20 @ 3:55 PM ET
I think Mikheyev deserves more than 1.2M.

He should get something close to 2M for it to be fair imo. He's gonna be an important part of the Leafs next season.

Book it.

- Scabeh


Connor Brown requested 4.8 million. Makes Mikheyevs ask not so outlandish.

Arbitration is fun.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 20 @ 3:56 PM ET
I think Mikheyev deserves more than 1.2M.

He should get something close to 2M for it to be fair imo. He's gonna be an important part of the Leafs next season.

Book it.

- Scabeh


It doesn't matter what he deserves

the arbitrator only cares about results and his 20 points in 40 games wont get him much. Historically a player like him as been rewarded as low as 800K to as high as 1.5M. It'll be somewhere in between.

Of course unless the arbitrator decides to go rogue...then that would suck.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 20 @ 3:58 PM ET
I think Mikheyev deserves more than 1.2M.

He should get something close to 2M for it to be fair imo. He's gonna be an important part of the Leafs next season.

Book it.

- Scabeh


(frank)ing Habs fan.

You know the arbitrator doesn't frequent this site, right?

.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Oct 20 @ 3:58 PM ET
It means he is The Assistant to the regional Manager
- senstroll


Does that mean that MiB is the ASS. Manager?

Asking for a friend.

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 20 @ 3:59 PM ET
It doesn't matter what he deserves

the arbitrator only cares about results and his 20 points in 40 games wont get him much. Historically a player like him as been rewarded as low as 800K to as high as 1.5M. It'll be somewhere in between.

Of course unless the arbitrator decides to go rogue...then that would suck.

- Santo_44



Giggsy and I already pointed out that Mikheyev will win his case and be awarded the $2.7M because, Leafs.. That's why...
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 20 @ 3:59 PM ET
It doesn't matter what he deserves

the arbitrator only cares about results and his 20 points in 40 games wont get him much. Historically a player like him as been rewarded as low as 800K to as high as 1.5M. It'll be somewhere in between.

Of course unless the arbitrator decides to go rogue...then that would suck.

- Santo_44


What is a 40pt. rookie season worth?

Would they maybe go by the projected totals if he did not get injured.


21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Oct 20 @ 4:01 PM ET
It doesn't matter what he deserves

the arbitrator only cares about results and his 20 points in 40 games wont get him much. Historically a player like him as been rewarded as low as 800K to as high as 1.5M. It'll be somewhere in between.

Of course unless the arbitrator decides to go rogue...then that would suck.

- Santo_44

It was 23 pts in 39 games. That's 48 pts in 82...
I'm guessing 2 years 1.45 per.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 20 @ 4:03 PM ET
What is a 40pt. rookie season worth?

Would they maybe go by the projected totals if he did not get injured.

- Aetherial

I dont think they do.

I am going off of an article on the athletic that was played out nicely.

There was a guy that played for Dallas in 2018 that went to arb with similar stats to Mikeyhev and he was awarded 900K.

There were other examples over the years of similar ones getting 1M to as high as 1.5M.

Historically an arbitrator doesn't favour a player who has half a season to his name and 20 points.

I would guess 1.25M. Right in the middle.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 20 @ 4:04 PM ET
I dont think they do.

I am going off of an article on the athletic that was played out nicely.

There was a guy that played for Dallas in 2018 that went to arb with similar stats to Mikeyhev and he was awarded 900K.

There were other examples over the years of similar ones getting 1M to as high as 1.5M.

Historically an arbitrator doesn't favour a player who has half a season to his name and 20 points.

I would guess 1.25M. Right in the middle.

- Santo_44



Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 20 @ 4:04 PM ET
It was 23 pts in 39 games. That's 48 pts in 82...
I'm guessing 2 years 1.45 per.

- 21peter

I am going off the athletic article.

1.45 M would be very high and unexpected but you can rule it out.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 20 @ 4:05 PM ET
Giggsy and I already pointed out that Mikheyev will win his case and be awarded the $2.7M because, Leafs.. That's why...
- PatC80

Dubas will obviously just sign him to 5M for poops and giggles anyway
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 20 @ 4:08 PM ET
It was 23 pts in 39 games. That's 48 pts in 82...
I'm guessing 2 years 1.45 per.

- 21peter



I would be ok with that deal. I think it's fair.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Oct 20 @ 4:08 PM ET
I dont think they do.

I am going off of an article on the athletic that was played out nicely.

There was a guy that played for Dallas in 2018 that went to arb with similar stats to Mikeyhev and he was awarded 900K.

There were other examples over the years of similar ones getting 1M to as high as 1.5M.

Historically an arbitrator doesn't favour a player who has half a season to his name and 20 points.

I would guess 1.25M. Right in the middle.

- Santo_44


The super low number of games is going to be his downfall at arbitration, which is probably doing the Leafs a favour if they award two years at a cheap price.

I like Mickey. He's a legit top 9 NHLer and has a decent ceiling if he can stay healthy and play with good players.
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