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Todd Cordell
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 02.10.2014

Oct 22 @ 2:54 PM ET
Todd Cordell: Calgary Flames make smart one-year gamble on Dominik Simon
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Oct 22 @ 2:56 PM ET
Good signing!
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Oct 22 @ 3:02 PM ET
Todd Cordell: Calgary Flames make smart one-year gamble on Dominik Simon
- ToddCordellCGY

Well with Nordstrom, Rinaldo, Robinson, Gawdin, & now Simon, I think Ryan may be on the move, someone has to be anyway.I like this signing. Very versatile can play both sides on wing & centre.
cnknut
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.26.2012

Oct 22 @ 3:32 PM ET
Thx Todd. Keep up the good work. And pls ignore the pea brain comments
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Oct 22 @ 4:22 PM ET
Much of that “production “ was him playing top line with Sid. As a bottom 6 guy production was minimal.

Sorry.
redseerpf
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.14.2019

Oct 22 @ 4:32 PM ET
Well with Nordstrom, Rinaldo, Robinson, Gawdin, & now Simon, I think Ryan may be on the move, someone has to be anyway.I like this signing. Very versatile can play both sides on wing & centre.
- Kevin R


Rinaldo, Robinson and Gawdin are not regular 4th line players.


Simon and Nordstrom are the only ones between them who will likely see some ice every night, or close. Ryan is still necessary in this scheme.

Drew Shore would've been a good replacement for Ryan, but he's just signed in Carolina.

Maybe try to pry Jordan Weal from Montreal on 50% salary retained for a 5th round pick or something.
zipfel
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 04.24.2016

Oct 22 @ 4:37 PM ET
Looks like he played a lot with Crosby at evens.


Frequency Strength Line
22.71% EV CROSBY,SIDNEY - GUENTZEL,JAKE - SIMON,DOMINIK
9.00% EV CROSBY,SIDNEY - SIMON,DOMINIK - ZUCKER,JASON
8.38% EV CROSBY,SIDNEY - MCCANN,JARED - SIMON,DOMINIK
7.50% EV HORNQVIST,PATRIC - MCCANN,JARED - SIMON,DOMINIK
4.78% EV GUENTZEL,JAKE - MALKIN,EVGENI - SIMON,DOMINIK
4.60% EV ASTON-REESE,ZACH - BLUEGER,TEDDY - SIMON,DOMINIK

With all these depth one way signings does any one think Tre is posturing for a bigger move?
redseerpf
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.14.2019

Oct 22 @ 4:43 PM ET


With all these depth one way signings does any one think Tre is posturing for a bigger move?

- zipfel


Not at all. They're just filling for Jankowski, Rieder, Quine and Czarnik.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 22 @ 4:48 PM ET
Good play driver. Poor finisher.
wreckage
Location: Fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Oct 22 @ 4:56 PM ET
Well with Nordstrom, Rinaldo, Robinson, Gawdin, & now Simon, I think Ryan may be on the move, someone has to be anyway.I like this signing. Very versatile can play both sides on wing & centre.
- Kevin R

Who is gonna do Calgary any favors taking that albatross of a contract off their hands? 3.125M for a 4th liner is disgusting. Its a flat cap world and no one is biting on that.
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Oct 22 @ 5:06 PM ET
Who is gonna do Calgary any favors taking that albatross of a contract off their hands? 3.125M for a 4th liner is disgusting. Its a flat cap world and no one is biting on that.
- wreckage


30-40 point, 4th line centre. Even if a bit over paid, he's very useful which is why they'll keep him around for the last year of his contract.
ChonDerry
Location: Bedlamton, AB
Joined: 04.06.2016

Oct 22 @ 6:10 PM ET

With all these depth one way signings does any one think Tre is posturing for a bigger move?

- zipfel


Yes, Jim Peplinski is going to be signed for a 7 year stretch.
He's 6'3" it's a big move
kastr99
Washington Capitals
Location: MD
Joined: 09.10.2011

Oct 22 @ 6:11 PM ET
Todd Cordell: Calgary Flames make smart one-year gamble on Dominik Simon
- ToddCordellCGY



I said that a few days ago that Flames could use him. He's better than his stats, needs to improve his finishing touch.
Good depth signing.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Oct 22 @ 6:12 PM ET
He was used almost exclusively on the top line the past two years.

You are correct, he is an analytics king. Good luck.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Oct 22 @ 6:46 PM ET
Who is gonna do Calgary any favors taking that albatross of a contract off their hands? 3.125M for a 4th liner is disgusting. Its a flat cap world and no one is biting on that.
- wreckage

Ryan was 3rd line prior to bubble play & production is actually pretty decent, 53% on the faceoffs & a pretty defensively responsible player. He's paid like a 3rd liner & hardly an albatross contract. Truly believe the team is committed to Bennett centring the 3rd line before making a major decision on him at the end of this season. Ryan should be tradeable, wont get value for him but he is tradeable.
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Oct 22 @ 9:09 PM ET
Ryan was 3rd line prior to bubble play & production is actually pretty decent, 53% on the faceoffs & a pretty defensively responsible player. He's paid like a 3rd liner & hardly an albatross contract. Truly believe the team is committed to Bennett centring the 3rd line before making a major decision on him at the end of this season. Ryan should be tradeable, wont get value for him but he is tradeable.
- Kevin R

With you on Benny...he has earned the right to play C and provides the most upside at C for us. Lindy is our only right shot winger so I say leave him on the wing. Could see Ryan being moved out for a 3rd pair RD making similar money and Gawdin or someone getting a shot at 4th line C. Teams likely will be tweaking lineups with these kind of moves before camps start.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Oct 22 @ 9:31 PM ET
With you on Benny...he has earned the right to play C and provides the most upside at C for us. Lindy is our only right shot winger so I say leave him on the wing. Could see Ryan being moved out for a 3rd pair RD making similar money and Gawdin or someone getting a shot at 4th line C. Teams likely will be tweaking lineups with these kind of moves before camps start.
- DEDDIE


That would be an awful move. Ryan is one of the better bottom six players in the league and the Flames should be hanging on to him unless they need to clear some room to bring in an impact player.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Oct 22 @ 10:01 PM ET
Very good signing. He can play well with skilled players, has good hockey IQ and is alright defensively. Good skater, good speed. The only knock on him is his finishing ability. Loved the guy and wish nothing but the best to Dominik.
redseerpf
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.14.2019

Oct 22 @ 10:02 PM ET
That would be an awful move. Ryan is one of the better bottom six players in the league and the Flames should be hanging on to him unless they need to clear some room to bring in an impact player.
- Hunkulese


Agreed. The only scenario where I move Ryan is if it allows us to bring in Hoffman.
wreckage
Location: Fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Oct 23 @ 7:42 AM ET
Ryan was 3rd line prior to bubble play & production is actually pretty decent, 53% on the faceoffs & a pretty defensively responsible player. He's paid like a 3rd liner & hardly an albatross contract. Truly believe the team is committed to Bennett centring the 3rd line before making a major decision on him at the end of this season. Ryan should be tradeable, wont get value for him but he is tradeable.
- Kevin R


Your neighbors to the north just paid Kyle Turris, whom had more points in less games, and has a reputation to be defensively responsible and have more offensive upside, tho on the downswing 1.65M to be their 3C.

Should say a little about Ryan's value.

Useless no. Overpaid? VERY. At 3+ he has very little value in a flat cap world. Not saying he is a useless player, but little value on the trade market at 3+ in a flat cap world.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Oct 23 @ 11:00 AM ET
Your neighbors to the north just paid Kyle Turris, whom had more points in less games, and has a reputation to be defensively responsible and have more offensive upside, tho on the downswing 1.65M to be their 3C.

Should say a little about Ryan's value.

Useless no. Overpaid? VERY. At 3+ he has very little value in a flat cap world. Not saying he is a useless player, but little value on the trade market at 3+ in a flat cap world.

- wreckage

Well the neighbours to the North got a guy looking to rebound & get numbers up similar to what Barrie did. Trying to cash in on the McDavid lotto ticket. Keep in mind that Turris got a massive buyout which kinda hits the psyche & players sign cheaply to prove themselves & can afford to do so. Shattenkirk did a similar thing, cmon thats not a very good comparable.
Coyle, Compher,Donskoi, Cizikas I can go on & on if you want are all very good 3rd line players all with similar stats to Ryans for the last few years of 35-40 points & all paid in the mid $3.0 mill per year. Hardly an albatross contract. I always thought you were an Oiler cult zombie, I suppose whoever your team is has no albatross contracts so you have no idea what one is?
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Oct 23 @ 1:14 PM ET
Your neighbors to the north just paid Kyle Turris, whom had more points in less games, and has a reputation to be defensively responsible and have more offensive upside, tho on the downswing 1.65M to be their 3C.

Should say a little about Ryan's value.

Useless no. Overpaid? VERY. At 3+ he has very little value in a flat cap world. Not saying he is a useless player, but little value on the trade market at 3+ in a flat cap world.

- wreckage


The flat cap world means nothing. It's a one year contract. You either have space right now or you don't. There's also a pretty good chance you could get him to stick around at a much lower number.

I doubt the Flames want to move him, but if they need to, it won't be hard to find someone to take him. He'll make any team that gets him better.
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Oct 23 @ 6:31 PM ET
Another league minimum deal...

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...terov-one-year-700k-deal/
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Oct 24 @ 10:39 AM ET
Another league minimum deal...

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...terov-one-year-700k-deal/

- geta02it


Depth is never a bad thing. I was hoping we would hold onto Forbert.
Kevin R
Calgary Flames
Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen.
Joined: 02.10.2010

Oct 24 @ 11:35 AM ET
Depth is never a bad thing. I was hoping we would hold onto Forbert.
- DuranDuran

He's like Brodie he plays the right side even though he shoots left. I would think Yelesin, Nesterov & Kyllington are going to be scrapping that #6 spot on the RHS.
Thing about condensed schedules is your going to probably get more injuries than normal, you need NHL guys to step in.
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