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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Oct 23 @ 11:32 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Favorite breakaway move, Penguins next GM, expansion draft, and more Favorite breakaway move, Penguins next GM, expansion draft, and more
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Oct 23 @ 11:36 AM ET
Guentzel-Crosby-Kapanen
Zucker-Malkin-Rust
McCann-T Johnson-C Smith
ZAR-Blueger-Tanev


When did we get Tyler Johnson?
ChonDerry
Location: Bedlamton, AB
Joined: 04.06.2016

Oct 23 @ 11:48 AM ET
It's actually "Tack" Johnson, he's pulling double duty as a Ranger Dman and Pens forward this season
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Oct 23 @ 11:50 AM ET
It's actually "Tack" Johnson, he's pulling double duty as a Ranger Dman and Pens forward this season
- ChonDerry



This was so bad it actually made me chuckle hahah
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Oct 23 @ 11:56 AM ET
Best breakaway move doesn't matter if you are right handed, left handed or what side you are coming from.

The essence is to come from an angle and get the goalie to open up and choose your shot to you. Best to come in on your forehand. Best is to entice the goalie to poke check. It gives you all options backhand or forehand short or far side. If goalie protects shot they open up five hole. Skill level isn't as needed. Dropping shoulders or selling a shot whatever it is you want the goalie to commit to a side of the net and where they expect you to shoot. Worst case you always have a bar down opening--in most cases you have an empty side either short or far side or five hole.
Once a goalie starts moving across the crease it's harder for them to recover to the side they are abandonning. A quick deke back to that side can cause them to commit and thus freeze.

If they freeze short side either buying into a forehand or backhand shot or poke check attempt you have the other side. If they move across with you the short side is open five hole begins to open.

Credit to those with high end skill who can come straight at a goalie and open them up with dekes and tuck it in five hole, a la Oshie. Straight shooters are betting on their shot and that's just a gamble and accuracy.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Oct 23 @ 12:14 PM ET
Best breakaway move doesn't matter if you are right handed, left handed or what side you are coming from.

The essence is to come from an angle and get the goalie to open up and choose your shot to you. Best to come in on your forehand. Best is to entice the goalie to poke check. It gives you all options backhand or forehand short or far side. If goalie protects shot they open up five hole. Skill level isn't as needed. Dropping shoulders or selling a shot whatever it is you want the goalie to commit to a side of the net and where they expect you to shoot. Worst case you always have a bar down opening--in most cases you have an empty side either short or far side or five hole.
Once a goalie starts moving across the crease it's harder for them to recover to the side they are abandonning. A quick deke back to that side can cause them to commit and thus freeze.

If they freeze short side either buying into a forehand or backhand shot or poke check attempt you have the other side. If they move across with you the short side is open five hole begins to open.

Credit to those with high end skill who can come straight at a goalie and open them up with dekes and tuck it in five hole, a la Oshie. Straight shooters are betting on their shot and that's just a gamble and accuracy.

- BluemanGuruu


Clappies from the hashies.

j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Oct 23 @ 12:19 PM ET
Going back to the burgers comments, I haven't had Fatburger since high school but I remember their Chili Cheese Bacon Burger was amazing. Is it still?!
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 23 @ 12:20 PM ET
Clappies from the hashies.


- j.boyd919

Easily the best move.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 23 @ 12:20 PM ET
Best breakaway move doesn't matter if you are right handed, left handed or what side you are coming from.

The essence is to come from an angle and get the goalie to open up and choose your shot to you. Best to come in on your forehand. Best is to entice the goalie to poke check. It gives you all options backhand or forehand short or far side. If goalie protects shot they open up five hole. Skill level isn't as needed. Dropping shoulders or selling a shot whatever it is you want the goalie to commit to a side of the net and where they expect you to shoot. Worst case you always have a bar down opening--in most cases you have an empty side either short or far side or five hole.
Once a goalie starts moving across the crease it's harder for them to recover to the side they are abandonning. A quick deke back to that side can cause them to commit and thus freeze.

If they freeze short side either buying into a forehand or backhand shot or poke check attempt you have the other side. If they move across with you the short side is open five hole begins to open.

Credit to those with high end skill who can come straight at a goalie and open them up with dekes and tuck it in five hole, a la Oshie. Straight shooters are betting on their shot and that's just a gamble and accuracy.

- BluemanGuruu

Cool story bro.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Oct 23 @ 12:21 PM ET
The most important part of homage burger patties is to add spicy mustard and Worcester sauce to the meat mix on top of the seasoning you’re putting in.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Oct 23 @ 12:22 PM ET
Clappies from the hashies.


- j.boyd919

Young Malkin. Something else entirely.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 23 @ 12:23 PM ET
Young Malkin. Something else entirely.
- Victoro311

Vanek has an entire reel of clappies from the hashies. What a legend.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Oct 23 @ 12:34 PM ET
The most important part of homage burger patties is to add spicy mustard and Worcester sauce to the meat mix on top of the seasoning you’re putting in.
- Victoro311


I see a lot of people putting mustard on the raw side of the burger while the first side is cooking, that way when you flip it, you flip it right onto the mustard. I need to try that.

Stupid odd question, but have any of you guys ever been to OKC and had a Tucker's Fried Onion burger? That poop is like 5 guys on sterioids. It was amazing.

Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Oct 23 @ 12:46 PM ET
I was really thinking about the Metro and while I believe it will be the most competitive division in the league next year, I think there are more question marks around every team on where they will place.

1) Canes. IMO the best all-around team in the Metro, but has questionable goaltending and could use maybe one more guy who can score, but IMO a playoff lock.

2) Caps. IMO the hardest team to predict. Their goaltending COULD be better if Samsonov is the real deal, but defense might be a little worse. Definitely a playoff team, but no clue where they finish.

3) Philly. A true Jeckyll & Hyde team. They're far from dominant, but they're good and surged at the time time. I don't see them as a lock, but likely to finish in the top five.

4) NYI. The definitely impressed this post-season, but I'm not sold. They weren't looking like they'd even make it and maybe just caught fire at the right time. Not a playoff lock.

5) CBJ. Mediocore team that can play their system well and beat good teams at times. I think they finish towards the bottom of the Metro above NYR and NJD.

6) NYR. Definitely going to be a fun team to watch and COULD possibly challenge for 5th place, but barring any significant moves and seeing how much of a difference-maker AL will be, I still see them missing.

7) NJD. Trash.

8) Pens. No clue. Whether or not Matheson proves to be an improvement remains to be seen, but the bottom six is awful. I see them challenging for 5th place, maybe 4th, but not a lock unless they wind up making a significant move.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Oct 23 @ 12:47 PM ET


- j.boyd919


This gave me a food boner.
dodo24116
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 08.02.2020

Oct 23 @ 1:02 PM ET
Isn't Marino protected because he would be a 2nd year player?
G - Man
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.13.2020

Oct 23 @ 1:10 PM ET
I pray you get Botterill back as your next GM. He can blow up your team like he did in Buffalo. Adams has done more good in a few months than Botterill did in three years.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Oct 23 @ 1:38 PM ET
Saw this from J Fresh:

Dominik Simon, signed 1x$0.7M, absolutely fell off a cliff this season. He was a great puck retriever on the Crosby line in 2019 but couldn't carve out a bottom six role with the Penguins.

I agree with this. Simon could still do nice things in the offensive side, but his defensive metrics cratered so he really didn't help like he did the previous year. Lived off the reputation of his stellar work in 18-19.

Also going to throw out there I need to see ZAR and Blueger repeat what they did last year for that same reason.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Oct 23 @ 1:44 PM ET
I wonder if Ceci ends up like Shattenkirk. Not in terms of comparable talent...

But Shattenkirk was a prime example of a guy that had potential... people thought he could be a top pair guy... didnt quite live up to expectations... signs cheap deal to play bottom pair... has a great year... and now will probably get overpaid and overslotted again...

Ceci could do pretty well in a sheltered bottom pair role this year... and then some GM (cough Rutherford) will hand him a 4 year $3M contract
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 23 @ 1:45 PM ET
Saw this from J Fresh:

Dominik Simon, signed 1x$0.7M, absolutely fell off a cliff this season. He was a great puck retriever on the Crosby line in 2019 but couldn't carve out a bottom six role with the Penguins.

I agree with this. Simon could still do nice things in the offensive side, but his defensive metrics cratered so he really didn't help like he did the previous year. Lived off the reputation of his stellar work in 18-19.

Also going to throw out there I need to see ZAR and Blueger repeat what they did last year for that same reason.

- Tojo.

Who cares. You’re missing the playoffs.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Oct 23 @ 1:45 PM ET
I pray you get Botterill back as your next GM. He can blow up your team like he did in Buffalo. Adams has done more good in a few months than Botterill did in three years.
- G - Man



False... when he was in Pittsburgh, Botterill made all the good moves and Rutherford made all the bad moves. How don't you know this?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 23 @ 1:45 PM ET
I wonder if Ceci ends up like Shattenkirk. Not in terms of comparable talent...

But Shattenkirk was a prime example of a guy that had potential... people thought he could be a top pair guy... didnt quite live up to expectations... signs cheap deal to play bottom pair... has a great year... and now will probably get overpaid and overslotted again...

Ceci could do pretty well in a sheltered bottom pair role this year... and then some GM (cough Rutherford) will hand him a 4 year $3M contract

- YouMeAndDupuis9

Lol no.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Oct 23 @ 1:57 PM ET
I was really thinking about the Metro and while I believe it will be the most competitive division in the league next year, I think there are more question marks around every team on where they will place.

1) Canes. IMO the best all-around team in the Metro, but has questionable goaltending and could use maybe one more guy who can score, but IMO a playoff lock.

2) Caps. IMO the hardest team to predict. Their goaltending COULD be better if Samsonov is the real deal, but defense might be a little worse. Definitely a playoff team, but no clue where they finish.

3) Philly. A true Jeckyll & Hyde team. They're far from dominant, but they're good and surged at the time time. I don't see them as a lock, but likely to finish in the top five.

4) NYI. The definitely impressed this post-season, but I'm not sold. They weren't looking like they'd even make it and maybe just caught fire at the right time. Not a playoff lock.

5) CBJ. Mediocore team that can play their system well and beat good teams at times. I think they finish towards the bottom of the Metro above NYR and NJD.

6) NYR. Definitely going to be a fun team to watch and COULD possibly challenge for 5th place, but barring any significant moves and seeing how much of a difference-maker AL will be, I still see them missing.

7) NJD. Trash.

8) Pens. No clue. Whether or not Matheson proves to be an improvement remains to be seen, but the bottom six is awful. I see them challenging for 5th place, maybe 4th, but not a lock unless they wind up making a significant move.

- Rinosaur

Fun post

1) Agree Carolina would be my pick as team to beat. Goaltending again the big question and that can sink a team.

2) Washington- lost Kelly and rumor is Jensen may go to make them cap compliant though TVR would be a nice replacement. But that means they're banking on Schultz for the second pair. Lost a little depth up front, but I think goaltending will be fine. Still a playoff team.

3) Philly- Niskanen was fading, but without him the right side of that defense is very suspect. Well coached and deep everywhere else though so maybe they hold steady, but I could see them take a step back.

4) Isles- Toews loss is huge to me. Lost a couple depth guys in Brassard and Martin who played decent roles. They made a run, but I could easily see them not qualify.

5) CBJ will look very different. How much better depends on which version of Domi they get. Lost some depth at wing and defense, but I think they'll still be in the mix.

6) NYR-Lafreniere and Kakko could give them a major boost even though they lost Fast and added JJ. I think they'll play the kids and can compete for a playoff spot but all the dead cap space will keep them from addressing their holes. This team with cap space next summer will get scary.

7) NJ- Made some nice adds, but it won't be enough.

8) Pens- I still think this is a playoff team finishing 3rd or 4th, but that's it's own post.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Oct 23 @ 2:00 PM ET
I wonder if Ceci ends up like Shattenkirk. Not in terms of comparable talent...

But Shattenkirk was a prime example of a guy that had potential... people thought he could be a top pair guy... didnt quite live up to expectations... signs cheap deal to play bottom pair... has a great year... and now will probably get overpaid and overslotted again...

Ceci could do pretty well in a sheltered bottom pair role this year... and then some GM (cough Rutherford) will hand him a 4 year $3M contract

- YouMeAndDupuis9

Shattenkirk was better even with the Rangers than that media market would have you think. He just wasn't the #1 they hoped for. He actually had the strongest relatives on their blueline, Rangers have just been one of the worst possession teams for years.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Oct 23 @ 2:03 PM ET
Shattenkirk was better even with the Rangers than that media market would have you think. He just wasn't the #1 they hoped for. He actually had the strongest relatives on their blueline, Rangers have just been one of the worst possession teams for years.
- Tojo.


Shattenkirk, despite some poor seasons, also had a prior history of playing good hockey. Ceci doesn't.
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