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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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Hedman
Jones
Werenski
Provorov
Carlson
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Brian Sickles
Washington Capitals |
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Location: Rockville, MD Joined: 07.19.2020
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John Carlson! Top Five in Norris voting three years in a row, second place last year (arguably should have won it) |
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dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: long beach, CA Joined: 01.29.2014
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VH ... had to do it, still not over losing Eddie..
Jones
Hamilton
Werenski
Pulock
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For a minute I forgot Krug wasn’t in Boston anymore. He would have made my list. As it stands, I’d go:
Hedman
Jones
Hamilton
Rielly
Carlson
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Xizord
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: I am Eklund, QC Joined: 01.03.2007
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Hedman
Jones
Werenski
Provorov
Carlson - Aetherial
Sounds about right ! Any list that not has Carlson in the top 5 is just stupid ! not sold on the fact that Hamilthon should be there |
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The last 2 years Heddy has developed into the best dman. He does it all. |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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Hedman
Jones
Werenski
Provorov
Carlson - Aetherial
Yup.
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MrBen
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 06.22.2010
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Any list made without Seth Jones is a list made by a guy who shouldn't be making lists. |
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Any list made without Seth Jones is a list made by a guy who shouldn't be making lists. - MrBen
Well said! |
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Shaundre93
Boston Bruins |
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Location: Standish, ME Joined: 07.18.2013
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I think after Hedman and Jones, there’s a slew of guys you could argue for to fill out the 5. Werenski, Carlson, Chabot, Mcavoy, Provorov, Hamilton, Slavin, Weber, I’m sure I’m missing some. I’m sure we’d all have them in different orders |
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ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: west haven, CT Joined: 08.14.2015
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golfingsince
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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Todd, you really whiffed not having Jones in your top 5.
He's likely top 2 in the league, let alone the East.
It's really difficult to take a list seriously that doesn't include Jones. |
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Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 07.29.2013
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Hedman
Jones
Werenski
Provorov
Carlson - Aetherial
Pretty much with you here. |
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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Yup. - Scabeh
What do you think about Weber there. I had him as a toss-up with Provorov. My list was not in order as I forgot about Carlson almost. |
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firelarry
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Silver Creek, NY Joined: 07.05.2012
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No way NOW Weber in top 5. Before injuries YES but now no. Top 10 sure. TOP 3 Have to be Hedman, Carlson, and Jones. After that a crap shoot. Provorov would’ve been up there if it wasn’t for a little regression past year. From what I’ve seen (just my opinion) he is good when complemented by a partner that fits his style of play. |
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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA Joined: 06.26.2007
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No way NOW Weber in top 5. Before injuries YES but now no. Top 10 sure. TOP 3 Have to be Hedman, Carlson, and Jones. After that a crap shoot. Provorov would’ve been up there if it wasn’t for a little regression past year. From what I’ve seen (just my opinion) he is good when complemented by a partner that fits his style of play. - firelarry
As silly as it may sound, I think his contract expiring/negotiations had more to do with his play than his partner. Don't get me wrong Nisky was a great partner and he will be missed, but we will see how Provy does without him. |
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stammerman
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 07.05.2013
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Past 6 years
2015 - Hedman healthy - Stanley Cup loser
2016 - Hedman healthy - ECF game 7 loss
2017 - Hedman healthy - too many injuries team misses playoffs by 1 point but he puts up 72 points to try and sneak in to playoffs
2018 - Hedman healthy - ECF game 7 loss
2019 - Hedman concussed - should have never played in playoffs, Lightning swept
2020 - Hedman healthy - Stanley Cup Winner
The correlation here is that the Lightning go as Hedman goes. He does it all, his gap work and stick work in the defensive zone are just better then everyone else. Throw in the offense and superior skating and he is the best defender in the game.
1. Victor Hedman
2. Seth Jones
3. Dougie Hamilton
4. Provorov
5. Carlson/Werenski (both these guys to me are more point guys then overall defenders but can't deny what they do bring)
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Past 6 years
2015 - Hedman healthy - Stanley Cup loser
2016 - Hedman healthy - ECF game 7 loss
2017 - Hedman healthy - too many injuries team misses playoffs by 1 point but he puts up 72 points to try and sneak in to playoffs
2018 - Hedman healthy - ECF game 7 loss
2019 - Hedman concussed - should have never played in playoffs, Lightning swept
2020 - Hedman healthy - Stanley Cup Winner
The correlation here is that the Lightning go as Hedman goes. He does it all, his gap work and stick work in the defensive zone are just better then everyone else. Throw in the offense and superior skating and he is the best defender in the game.
1. Victor Hedman
2. Seth Jones
3. Dougie Hamilton
4. Provorov
5. Carlson/Werenski (both these guys to me are more point guys then overall defenders but can't deny what they do bring) - stammerman
2015 Heddy and Bishop skate into each other vs Chicago , series flipped on a dime
2018 Heddy soft in corners, Caps make plays constantly
Just joshing. 2020 he has come into his own. A little meanness to go along with the rest of the package...he is now the best. He’s 30 he’s got several years of greatness still. |
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Hedman and Jones are one/two by a mile.
The rest? Either still young, unproven or too inconsistent or injury prone |
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bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils |
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Joined: 09.05.2017
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Todd, you really whiffed not having Jones in your top 5.
He's likely top 2 in the league, let alone the East.
It's really difficult to take a list seriously that doesn't include Jones. - golfingsince
Agreed. No clue how Jones was overlooked. Not that it really matters in any guys personal ranking. Jones or Josi are the #2 best D in this league. So:
Hedman
Jones
Carlson
Hamilton
Reilly/Proverov |
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Todd, you really whiffed not having Jones in your top 5.
He's likely top 2 in the league, let alone the East.
It's really difficult to take a list seriously that doesn't include Jones. - golfingsince
for real, but no one takes Todd seriously. |
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