Kevin Allen: One part of the penalty killing rule makes no sense Shorthanded teams shouldn't be allowed to ice the puck

Now you might be onto something. Never looked at it that way 👍

That makes complete sense. That is a great idea.

That's a change I've been wanting in my entire 30 years as a hockey fan. Now it's that and the dreaded trapezoid. Why take away a valuable skill from goalies? I know Brodeur, but even as a Flyers fan I appreciated his puck skills.

This change would kill the entertainment value of the game. There's still an advantage to relieve pressure by shooting the puck down the ice. There's no benefit to anyone to have an endless number of successive faceoffs.

That's a change I've been wanting in my entire 30 years as a hockey fan. Now it's that and the dreaded trapezoid. Why take away a valuable skill from goalies? I know Brodeur, but even as a Flyers fan I appreciated his puck skills.
- Kdub5

Eliminate the Hasek flop somehow. I’m fine with no trapezoid but not the no touch a goalie bs if they hold on the puck too long or turn turtle. If they play out they are not untouchable. Rule change to allow hitting should be allowed outside the trapezoid.

Here is something else I always wanted to see.

Penalties carry over between periods and in to overtime correct?

I would like to see a team be able to have its entire powerplay if it is at the end of a game if the game is tied or that team is down by one goal. And if it is a major they should be able to have the whole penalty regardless of the score.

Why should the offending team get rewarded because there was less than 2 minutes left in the game?

This change would kill the entertainment value of the game. There's still an advantage to relieve pressure by shooting the puck down the ice. There's no benefit to anyone to have an endless number of successive faceoffs.
- YeOldTimer

This is where I am on this. Every power play would be faceoff after faceoff after faceoff.

I don't like changing this at all. It has been this way for as long as I can remember, and hate it when things are changed with the traditional rules.

The team that is shorthanded needs to have a way to relieve pressure, and working hard to get possession to get the puck out, just for another face off in the defensive end without a line change is nuts in my opinion. Leave the game alone, put overtime back to five vs five, eliminate the shootout, and allow ties. Games worth different amounts is a crazier concept than icing the puck while shorthanded.

Why should the offending team get rewarded because there was less than 2 minutes left in the game?

I'm not sure what the details are, but there is a rule on the books now that allows the ref to call a penalty shot if a team commits a penalty very late in the game, such that the entire penalty cannot be served before the end of regulation. A long time ago, I remember the Flyers getting called for this vs. Quebec, I think.

Sorry but this is a dumb idea, it's fine the way it is, if they did change it and didn't allow the penalty killers to change when they iced the puck it would just lead to exhausted penalty killers and teams with strong powerplays could really open up the score and there could potentially be more blowouts which would suck.

Players need to be able to defend and they need to be able to dump the puck down the ice on the PK, gotta stop trying to make everything a penalty so as to increase the number of goals.

*Also think the delay of game penalty for shooting the puck over the glass is dumb, it should just be a faceoff in the defensive zone with no line change allowed for the team who shot the puck over similar to how it is for an icing.

I don't like changing this at all. It has been this way for as long as I can remember, and hate it when things are changed with the traditional rules.

The team that is shorthanded needs to have a way to relieve pressure, and working hard to get possession to get the puck out, just for another face off in the defensive end without a line change is nuts in my opinion. Leave the game alone, put overtime back to five vs five, eliminate the shootout, and allow ties. Games worth different amounts is a crazier concept than icing the puck while shorthanded.
- meduser

Totally agree, really hate ticky tack penalties and this rule change if it happened would have that ticky tack vibe imo.

Even the inevitable chain of faceoffs aside, no, because the NHLPA would NEVER agree to it. Having four gassed guys stuck out on the ice for 2 minutes would cause a massive increase in the amount of injuries. And even if they manage to kill it off, it would force the rest of the team down to 3 lines for the next 5 minutes while those four players try to recover. In a 2 minute bubble, I understand why one may think it's bonkers, but the impact it would have on the game even after the PK would be way too large.

I'm not sure what the details are, but there is a rule on the books now that allows the ref to call a penalty shot if a team commits a penalty very late in the game, such that the entire penalty cannot be served before the end of regulation. A long time ago, I remember the Flyers getting called for this vs. Quebec, I think.

Only for deliberate delay of game. That's not an option for any "normal" penalty.

Terrible Idea.

THat would only add more whistles . and disrupt the flow of play...

The flow is what we want and need..... thats why no 2 line pass , Thats why no icing on the PP.... are shorthanded teams suppose to work the puck up ice??? The job of the Defensive player is ley on short handed situation.... I like what these players bring ...

KEEP THE FLOW .

Kevin Allen: One part of the penalty killing rule makes no sense
Shorthanded teams shouldn't be allowed to ice the puck
- Kevin Allen

Instead of changing the no icing on penalties -which I do not like as it will lead to players being injured cause they are tired - is have the penalized player server out the full 2 minutes like a major penalty or the player has be to above their blue line before icing the puck while on the PK.

What a dumb idea. Like really dumb. Scotty Bowman would be laughing. Now when my PK unit gets the puck in the corner, they won't try to ice it, but instead pin it with their skate against the boards. Fans can watch 4 guys humping the boards trying to jar the puck loose. If I'm losing that battle I might "accidentally" fall down on the puck to force a whistle. That's exciting.

Also if I have a superior face-off specialist then I might just ice the puck 12 times in a row. That's fun.

When my guys are tired someone will conveniently break a stick before a faceoff and buy their team 20-30 seconds to slowly go over and get a new one. More fun.

Fans also won't get to see guys like McDavid wind up in his own zone to fly through the neutral zone to gain the line. It will just be a bunch of stationary players having faceoffs.

So your number one rule change and this was it. Good one.

I know I am late about this, but when I was a small boy I remember the WHA having this exact rule and my impression is that all it meant is that there were a lot of icing calls. Even if your Penalty kill has to stay one the ice constant icing calls will not drive offense and the short break a PK unit will have after icing is to their benefit.

If this would spur more offense I might be persuaded to support it. I think what would happen with the rule change is just longer games.