Michael Stuart: Senators Reveal Reverse Retro Jersey

I still really want Bufffalo to return to the old school Buffalo head jesrey.

Those are my all time favorite of any team.

I really like it. But like you said the Avs one a beauty and I like the NYR too

Meh on the jersey. It's ok. Sort of annoying to have us fans cry for years to go back to the old logo only to end up going with that logo in a year the league decides to create "retro" jerseys.

This jersey has no excitement compared to some of the others. Would have been cool to the see the 'O', the old logo with the parliament buildings, or even the 3D one on a "retro" jersey.

Or, you could have rebranded with the 'O' and have the '92 black look at the retro look.

Overall, happy to have the 2-D logo back.

To continue the NCAA convo that started last blog, it will be very interesting to see Sanderson this year.

It seems those who like him expect him to continue his meteoric rise. Hopefully it's something that we get to see, since many see him as more of a "safe" pick/prospect.

Also nice to see Pinto so high.

To continue the NCAA convo that started last blog, it will be very interesting to see Sanderson this year.

It seems those who like him expect him to continue his meteoric rise. Hopefully it's something that we get to see, since many see him as more of a "safe" pick/prospect.

Also nice to see Pinto so high.
- david22

It will be interesting to see Sanderson's development for sure. I am still not quite sure he rose in scouts rankings without any hockey being played but we shall see.

It will be interesting to see Sanderson's development for sure. I am still not quite sure he rose in scouts rankings without any hockey being played but we shall see.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

I'm in the same boat. Part if why I think so many are expecting him to dominate this season(assuming there is one).

No hockey for months, and he shoots up the draft rankings. People are going to have lofty expectations he backs it up, which could put undue pressure/expectations on him.

I guess we ll see.

Those are some very red jerseys. Not really my favorite look, but I'll reserve final judgement until I see how they look in action. Personally, I've always really liked the "O" style, but I can see why that might be held back mostly for 3rd jersey purposes.

As for the NCAA discussion, it really is too bad that Sanderson is coming in with such high expectations... I have an underlying fear that he's more like Chris Phillips than Seth Jones, but I guess we'll see. Regardless, as much as I complain about the C situation on the team, I can't complain about them prioritizing D as a team strength - and it can't just be all puck-moving and transition passing. I'd also suggest that drafting Sanderson made one of Brannstrom/Thomson available as a high-end trade chip in a potential 'king-maker' deal down the road.

It’s okay, but basically just looks like a red version of their normal jerseys. Using the “O” would have been better IMO

I personally don't care for the "0", but it would make sense for a retro motif. Doesn't really make sense not to do that.

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I share the same sentiments.
Why the love for the “O” is beyond me. Looks like a giant number zero.

However, since the Sens got Stutzle AND Sanderson, AND this retro jersey I will 100% be buying this jersey.

I'm in the same boat. Part if why I think so many are expecting him to dominate this season(assuming there is one).

No hockey for months, and he shoots up the draft rankings. People are going to have lofty expectations he backs it up, which could put undue pressure/expectations on him.

I guess we ll see.
- david22

Every year there are junior players that seem to come out of nowhere and shoot up the charts. A good example is Eric Karlsson in his draft year. I was there when he was picked and no one around me had a clue who he was. He had played great at the world juniors which is why he rose so fast.

There is a misconception about Sanderson in that the season ended and he somehow went from the late first round to the projected number 5 spot where he was actually picked. What catapulted Sanderson up the rankings was his last 2 USA National tournaments that wasn’t really reported on here. He was already ranked as the top shut down defender in the draft before these tournaments. What blew the the scouts away was his new found offensive prowess. He stunned them with that and being the son of Geoff Sanderson didn’t hurt. I would expect Sanderson will take over as the Sens best D Man in 3 years. The Senators hit a home run here!

Every year there are junior players that seem to come out of nowhere and shoot up the charts. A good example is Eric Karlsson in his draft year. I was there when he was picked and no one around me had a clue who he was. He had played great at the world juniors which is why he rose so fast.

There is a misconception about Sanderson in that the season ended and he somehow went from the late first round to the projected number 5 spot where he was actually picked. What catapulted Sanderson up the rankings was his last 2 USA National tournaments that wasn’t really reported on here. He was already ranked as the top shut down defender in the draft before these tournaments. What blew the the scouts away was his new found offensive prowess. He stunned them with that and being the son of Geoff Sanderson didn’t hurt. I would expect Sanderson will take over as the Sens best D Man in 3 years. The Senators hit a home run here!
- Barrykerr1

Sanderson is a July birthday.

Kids who shoot up draft rankings are almost always the later birth dates. This is especially true of Dmen.

Why the love for the “O” is beyond me. Looks like a giant number zero.
- optimus-reim

This. Never really liked it. Same with the Parliament logo. But this retro jersey also lacks imagination. The 3D logo was OK with me.

I am excited with the 2D logo...On this 3rd retro jersey, I would have added some white mixed up with the black, mostly on the sleeves.
I will probably buy this one....Grade A-

Every year there are junior players that seem to come out of nowhere and shoot up the charts. A good example is Eric Karlsson in his draft year. I was there when he was picked and no one around me had a clue who he was. He had played great at the world juniors which is why he rose so fast.

There is a misconception about Sanderson in that the season ended and he somehow went from the late first round to the projected number 5 spot where he was actually picked. What catapulted Sanderson up the rankings was his last 2 USA National tournaments that wasn’t really reported on here. He was already ranked as the top shut down defender in the draft before these tournaments. What blew the the scouts away was his new found offensive prowess. He stunned them with that and being the son of Geoff Sanderson didn’t hurt. I would expect Sanderson will take over as the Sens best D Man in 3 years. The Senators hit a home run here!
- Barrykerr1

Agreed! their D will get stronger & stronger within the next 3 years!...Now PD needs to get one more top notch 6F, either a RW or a C depending if Stuetzle will play 1C or at the wing.

This year will be crucial to develop efficiently our young crop of players; I hope that Logan Brown and J. Norris will play big minutes in the NHL

Sort of a fun exercise here, where you can vote for your top-25 Senators prospects under the age of 25. The deadline for submissions is this coming Sunday, November 22 at noon (EST).
https://www.silversevense...-nhl-ottawa-senators-sens

It usually results in a pundit vs. fan aggregate scoring for each prospect, and an interesting read to see where people feel these prospects are at in relation to each other. It can get tricky to resolve the rankings outside of the top 5 or 10, and to some extent at that point it can get fairly arbitrary. That said, I generally follow the criteria of "would I trade X for Y straight-up", and find that I often actually have a pretty good idea of whether I would or not.

Every year there are junior players that seem to come out of nowhere and shoot up the charts. A good example is Eric Karlsson in his draft year. I was there when he was picked and no one around me had a clue who he was. He had played great at the world juniors which is why he rose so fast.

There is a misconception about Sanderson in that the season ended and he somehow went from the late first round to the projected number 5 spot where he was actually picked. What catapulted Sanderson up the rankings was his last 2 USA National tournaments that wasn’t really reported on here. He was already ranked as the top shut down defender in the draft before these tournaments. What blew the the scouts away was his new found offensive prowess. He stunned them with that and being the son of Geoff Sanderson didn’t hurt. I would expect Sanderson will take over as the Sens best D Man in 3 years. The Senators hit a home run here!
- Barrykerr1

I'm confused by your post. Karlsson was draft in 2008 and didn't play in the world juniors until 2009. Unless you are referring to the under 18 world juniors? His stock for sure increased after the 2009 world juniors, but he was already in the Sens system.

That's great Sanderson played well at a couple of tourneys nationally but that really still doesn't explain the explosion of climb up the rankings with no hockey. Did scouts just forget about those tourneys, rewatch tape, and go "woah, we missed this", and adjust their rankings a month or two later? I'm just confused about that part. But be as it may, I think Sanderson should be a solid fit. I would not mind having a very strong defense in 2-3 seasons. I do hope they try to address the 1C position in the next year or 2.

I still hate the 2D logo. But the red makes a huge difference.

I think Washington crushed it.... likely my favorite out of all of them.... only thing I'd change the dark Blue to Black

I'm confused by your post. Karlsson was draft in 2008 and didn't play in the world juniors until 2009. Unless you are referring to the under 18 world juniors? His stock for sure increased after the 2009 world juniors, but he was already in the Sens system.

That's great Sanderson played well at a couple of tourneys nationally but that really still doesn't explain the explosion of climb up the rankings with no hockey. Did scouts just forget about those tourneys, rewatch tape, and go "woah, we missed this", and adjust their rankings a month or two later? I'm just confused about that part. But be as it may, I think Sanderson should be a solid fit. I would not mind having a very strong defense in 2-3 seasons. I do hope they try to address the 1C position in the next year or 2.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Sanderson certainly seems to have the highest "floor" of any of the prospects drafted outside the top 3. If he has offesnsive development as some have suggested, all the better.

Agreed on the number one center. Ottawa will hopefully be able to address that at the next draft. While its all about the D-men, there are a couple centers who stand out (Aatu Raty is someone who could go first over all), there was another who's name alludes me now.

It could be 3 years from now that Stutzle and Brown /Norris fit the bill of 1st and 2nd line centers, but it's not something the Sens should count on.

Every year there are junior players that seem to come out of nowhere and shoot up the charts. A good example is Eric Karlsson in his draft year. I was there when he was picked and no one around me had a clue who he was. He had played great at the world juniors which is why he rose so fast.

There is a misconception about Sanderson in that the season ended and he somehow went from the late first round to the projected number 5 spot where he was actually picked. What catapulted Sanderson up the rankings was his last 2 USA National tournaments that wasn’t really reported on here. He was already ranked as the top shut down defender in the draft before these tournaments. What blew the the scouts away was his new found offensive prowess. He stunned them with that and being the son of Geoff Sanderson didn’t hurt. I would expect Sanderson will take over as the Sens best D Man in 3 years. The Senators hit a home run here!
- Barrykerr1

I do believe the Sens scouting,Pierre Dorion were thinking the same of him....obvously. i like the pick too.

It can't go without acknowledgment that both Colorado and Los Angeles absolutely crushed it with their retro-style jerseys.


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I'm confused by your post. Karlsson was draft in 2008 and didn't play in the world juniors until 2009. Unless you are referring to the under 18 world juniors? His stock for sure increased after the 2009 world juniors, but he was already in the Sens system.

That's great Sanderson played well at a couple of tourneys nationally but that really still doesn't explain the explosion of climb up the rankings with no hockey. Did scouts just forget about those tourneys, rewatch tape, and go "woah, we missed this", and adjust their rankings a month or two later? I'm just confused about that part. But be as it may, I think Sanderson should be a solid fit. I would not mind having a very strong defense in 2-3 seasons. I do hope they try to address the 1C position in the next year or 2.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

It was at the 2009 World Junior under 20 that Karlsson did well, 9 points in 6 games that helped his cause. Like Sanderson he was the fastest riser in the 2009 draft. I heard that the Senators learned the Ducks were going to pick Karlsson at 17 so that’s why they traded up to 15 to grab him.

In regards to Sanderson’s rise it is due to those last 2 tournaments that changed a lot of scouts minds. Keep in mind 2 of Bob Mackenzie’s 10 scouts had Sanderson ranked third, ahead of Stutzle or Byefield. This kid is one of the youngest players in the draft so for him to be picked at 5 is very promising for our rebuild.

It was at the 2009 World Junior under 20 that Karlsson did well, 9 points in 6 games that helped his cause. Like Sanderson he was the fastest riser in the 2009 draft. I heard that the Senators learned the Ducks were going to pick Karlsson at 17 so that’s why they traded up to 15 to grab him.

In regards to Sanderson’s rise it is due to those last 2 tournaments that changed a lot of scouts minds. Keep in mind 2 of Bob Mackenzie’s 10 scouts had Sanderson ranked third, ahead of Stutzle or Byefield. This kid is one of the youngest players in the draft so for him to be picked at 5 is very promising for our rebuild.
- Barrykerr1

Karlsson was drafted before the world juniors though. What did it do to "help his cause"? He was already property of the Sens when the tournament was played. I am just trying to understand why you are using that tournament as evidence to show he rose up the draft rankings, when he was drafted before the tournament. Maybe I'm being a Richard.

I believe Karlsson was taken around the spot many thought he would go. Probably a little earlier than most thought - like Sanderson, but the world juniors weren't the reason for that reach.

I think Sanderson has potential for sure. Unsure his ceiling is higher than the forwards left on the board, but I'm intrigued to see his development. If his offensive game can continue to come along, he could be a scary 2-way d-man.

Karlsson was drafted before the world juniors though. What did it do to "help his cause"? He was already property of the Sens when the tournament was played. I am just trying to understand why you are using that tournament as evidence to show he rose up the draft rankings, when he was drafted before the tournament. Maybe I'm being a Richard.

I believe Karlsson was taken around the spot many thought he would go. Probably a little earlier than most thought - like Sanderson, but the world juniors weren't the reason for that reach.

I think Sanderson has potential for sure. Unsure his ceiling is higher than the forwards left on the board, but I'm intrigued to see his development. If his offensive game can continue to come along, he could be a scary 2-way d-man.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

This is a realy good post. Scouting is far more sophisticated than the average hockey fan is able to comprehend. So, for example, if a young player has one great tournament, game, shift or play, a scout evaluates the probability of being able to bring the kid up to being able to consistently perform at that level.

If a prospect has poor fitness, a scout tries to project what his performance level could be if he had a pro level fitness regime.

Brady Tkachuk is a perfect example of how a scout sees things vs the average fan. As a fan, I looked at Tkachuk and saw a big, raw, awkward skater. Scouts looked at him and saw how his game translated out at the pro level. Scouts were entirely confident he would be a pro player. Most Sens fans, including me, said "meh."

Nobody was that happy with the selection of Pinto. So many slick players were still on the board behind him. What is it that the scouts saw that I did not?