I'm buying on Eakins and Reider (for their roles)

I don't know how I feel about Irwin. As a 7th, and (capable?) PKer, fine.

This org seems to have a chub for 'fit' unlike Jason. If they see his skill set to fit with offensive potential (plenty of winger options inc. Reinhart, Thompson, Olofsson, Skinner) and help him get to his Vegas quality
- TheSabresTaco

Between 17/18-18/19 Cody Eakin was the worst regular forward on Vegas in xGF%.

If he was a 900k 4C, fine. Hopefully Cozens bumps him down to 4C sooner.

Eakin is kinda bad and not young, and I really hope they don't try and use him as a Larsson

As it sits. Irwin is 100% in Rochester.
- Sabretooth9

Davidson. Irwin is the 7th guy.

Your biggest clue is that they did interviews with Irwin, Eakin and Reider. No Davidson.

It was intentionally mentioned by the org that he was brought here for PK.

Between 17/18-18/19 Cody Eakin was the worst regular forward on Vegas in xGF%.

If he was a 900k 4C, fine. Hopefully Cozens bumps him down to 4C sooner.

Eakin is kinda bad and not young, and I really hope they don't try and use him as a Larsson
- sbroads24

Interesting. I'm playing on optimism here, like I did with Vesey last summer. Maybe, (maybe maybe) Ralph makes him a more sound player, or he fits Buffalo better than WPG and VGK.

Eakin is not elite though. That is assured.

So far, a 60 game schedule is proposed, divisional only play, back to backs in the same arena.
- TheSabresTaco

I hope Buffalo gets annexed by Canada so we don't have to play in the new northeast division. Jesus christ, it's a murderer's row.

Here's what Harrington had to say:

"Instead of multiple games against Florida, Ottawa and Detroit, don't be surprised to see the Sabres stay with Boston and then get grouped with Washington, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and the three New York City-area teams that include the rugged Islanders and on-the-rise Rangers."

At least give us Detroit

Saw that. Isn't Rocco's Modern Life getting a return too? I'm pretty high on that one. As long as the original sponge bob/bob's burger humor sticks with it
- TheSabresTaco

I never saw that but they seem to be rebooting everything so it wouldn't surprise me.

I hope Buffalo gets annexed by Canada so we don't have to play in the new northeast division. Jesus christ, it's a murderer's row.

Here's what Harrington had to say:

"Instead of multiple games against Florida, Ottawa and Detroit, don't be surprised to see the Sabres stay with Boston and then get grouped with Washington, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and the three New York City-area teams that include the rugged Islanders and on-the-rise Rangers."

At least give us Detroit
- jcragcrumple

That’s definitely the group of death forsure.

We need a goalie.

I hope Buffalo gets annexed by Canada so we don't have to play in the new northeast division. Jesus christ, it's a murderer's row.

Here's what Harrington had to say:

"Instead of multiple games against Florida, Ottawa and Detroit, don't be surprised to see the Sabres stay with Boston and then get grouped with Washington, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and the three New York City-area teams that include the rugged Islanders and on-the-rise Rangers."

At least give us Detroit
- jcragcrumple

(frank) that we'll outscore em all

I hope Buffalo gets annexed by Canada so we don't have to play in the new northeast division. Jesus christ, it's a murderer's row.

Here's what Harrington had to say:

"Instead of multiple games against Florida, Ottawa and Detroit, don't be surprised to see the Sabres stay with Boston and then get grouped with Washington, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and the three New York City-area teams that include the rugged Islanders and on-the-rise Rangers."

At least give us Detroit
- jcragcrumple

The Score had a few additional wild, wacky proposals:

https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2045295

Its theoretically two months from the season starting and Ristolainen is still on the roster.

That’s definitely the group of death forsure.

We need a goalie.
- Pegullaville

This is going to suck. Only intra-divisional play? This isn't even a league anymore, it's 4 leagues. 60 games against the same 8 teams? So we get to watch 7.5 games against the (frank)ing boring trap Islanders. Brutal

God that would suck

Its theoretically two months from the season starting and Ristolainen is still on the roster.
- ImThatGuy

I encourage you to eat your entire poop sandwich.

Interesting. I'm playing on optimism here, like I did with Vesey last summer. Maybe, (maybe maybe) Ralph makes him a more sound player, or he fits Buffalo better than WPG and VGK.

Eakin is not elite though. That is assured.
- TheSabresTaco

I don't hate Reider. He's fine as a 12/13 guy.

I think they severely downgraded the bottom 6 though

Larsson + Kahun, Vesey >>> Eakin, Reider, Tage

Even in salary cap they could've had Kahun and Larsson for what Eakin cost, and Eakin is the worst of the 3.

This is going to suck. Only intra-divisional play? This isn't even a league anymore, it's 4 leagues. 60 games against the same 8 teams? So we get to watch 7.5 games against the (frank)ing boring trap Islanders. Brutal

God that would suck
- jcragcrumple

Well, it's a proposal. Hopefully it's not the end product. Maybe just East divisions, West dvisions, and the Canadian division. (frank) them.

point 1: ny was the first to get hit and they got crushed...to use florida in march and april as a comparison is misleading as the weather is generally conducive to being outdoors...go to the summer when ny was outside and fla, tx, az and other warm weather states were indoors in air conditioning and those sun belt cities were getting slammed while ny and northern states had lower case loads...and, in addition, by the time the sun belt was getting hit, much more was known about the virus...

that said, you're asking hospitals to get crushed as covid patients combine with flu and other winter sicknesses and you're not even taking into consideration health care workers who are getting hit as well...that depletes staffing levels putting even more undue pressure on those still standing...

point 2: 1% of 330,000,000 is 3.3 million people

the scott "quack" atlas approach of herd immunity and the bone-headedness of people who still don't believe that the spread of this virus can be mitigated with something as simple as wearing a mask is dangerous...pure herd immunity, which isn't considered to be a viable approach because we're not even sure if this virus could come back, would devastate a large swath of the 1% you're talking about...if not more

finally: the only thing plain and simple is that masks help mitigate the spread of the virus...but it's apparently not plain and simple for large swaths of people who may not even believe this pandemic is real


wadr
- Michael Pachla

Quite a bit to digest there.

1st, this 3rd wave we are experiencing is alarming, no doubt. No one in their right mind should dismiss it.

I do think 19 is more right than wrong however with his assertion of protect those at risk, and for the need of the country to get back to work...and I'll add in responsibly. Wear a mask, social distance reasonably.

The 3.3m number you calculate misses a couple key factors, including but possibly more:
- Positivity Rate
- Case Fatality Rate by age.

Positivity rates rates by state per 100,000 range from 500 (Vermont) to 8,700 (North Dakota), so from 0.5% to 8.7%, with 3.8% the mean. (Statista as of 11/18/202)

For argument sake, let's use a more current rate of say 25% = 82,500,000 cases
The overall US Case Fatality Rate of 2.2% (CDC) would project 1,815,000 deaths, about 55% of your projection above...still ALOT of people.
Yet, if you simply took 19's suggestion and applied it to Age 75+ ... the Mortality rate drops down significantly to about 1%; or about 825,000
Now, apply that logic to those with comorbidities and the projected death rate can be cut rather significantly again, and not approach a fraction of your 3.3m calcutation.

Point is, this country can do both, especially with 2 very promising vaccines coming shortly, and more sure to be on the way. That does NOT mean go willy nilly.

Well, it's a proposal. Hopefully it's not the end product. Maybe just East divisions, West dvisions, and the Canadian division. (frank) them.
- TheSabresTaco

Stripes posted an article a while back that international travelers in Canada will be subject to a rapid COVID test as opposed to a 14-day quarantine. Hopefully getting that into place makes the all-Canada division unnecessary. New York State also allows a COVID test and 3-days' quarantine now instead of a 14-day quarantine but I believe NFL players were exempt from that due to them being on stricter protocols. Now that testing is more available, and a vaccine or 2 seems to be on the horizon, I don't think bubbles or realignments will be what they end up going with.

Well, it's a proposal. Hopefully it's not the end product. Maybe just East divisions, West dvisions, and the Canadian division. (frank) them.
- TheSabresTaco

This would be so unbelievably bad

I know a few people that are still messed up 6 months after catching the damn thing
- homiedclown

How's your wife recovering?

Btw - those people were probably screwed up anyway, lol...jk'g.

If you are talking about Irwin and reider ....


They are literally depth players for 800K. Both will be in Rochester or healthy scratches. We got them for pennies. So not a big deal

Eakins is a wild card. He played great with the jets and struggled last year with Vegas

89 approves Eakins and he lives and probly watches Vegas more than you and I
- Sabretooth9

I think Reider is the 13F and plays PK

I don't hate Reider. He's fine as a 12/13 guy.

I think they severely downgraded the bottom 6 though

Larsson + Kahun, Vesey >>> Eakin, Reider, Tage

Even in salary cap they could've had Kahun and Larsson for what Eakin cost, and Eakin is the worst of the 3.
- sbroads24

I know you have issue with Kyvyn Kryugyr and their offseason, and I don't really disagree with you, so I'll leave it as is.

They apparently had zero interest in Larsson. I'm sure they were aware of his abilities and effectiveness.

He wasn't a premium free agent, as he took an entire day to sign a very low contract, especially for what we valued him at. Same with Kahun, he signed a very underwhelming contract 3 weeks later. And Vesey is what he is and is priced appropriately.

While I agree that the 3 players you listed are cumulatively better than the second 3 you listed today, I don't really think the comparison is fair.

"To be fair"

Hall, Reinhart, Olofsson, Skinner, Thompson, Cozens >>>>> Reinhart, Olofsson, Skinner, Vesey, Sobotka/Frolik, Kahun/Sheary

Eichel, Staal, Eakin, Lazar >>>>>> Eichel, Johansson, Larsson, Lazar

Logistically, you could have kept some of these guys, not signed other guys, gave other guys smaller contracts, so on and so forth.

But I think they were sticking to a model, bringing in certain players with certain skills, to play differently this year. They need to prove that 'different' is better, but I believe they want to play differently.

I don't know why the Sabres didn't want Kahun for under a million, and I also don't know why 29 other teams felt the exact same way.

This would be so unbelievably bad
- jcragcrumple

You're a towel.

So far, a 60 game schedule is proposed, divisional only play, back to backs in the same arena.
- TheSabresTaco

Teams are going to kill each other if true...each team would play the other 7 teams 9sh times, lol.

Players have been asked for another 13% deferral, on top of the 10% already agreed to.
Owners would pay about 62% of their salary...and Bonuses paid would increase that % depending on number of players and amount of the bonus.

I hope Buffalo gets annexed by Canada so we don't have to play in the new northeast division. Jesus christ, it's a murderer's row.

Here's what Harrington had to say:

"Instead of multiple games against Florida, Ottawa and Detroit, don't be surprised to see the Sabres stay with Boston and then get grouped with Washington, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and the three New York City-area teams that include the rugged Islanders and on-the-rise Rangers."

At least give us Detroit
- jcragcrumple

As it stands now, 8th out of 8.

Interesting. I'm playing on optimism here, like I did with Vesey last summer. Maybe, (maybe maybe) Ralph makes him a more sound player, or he fits Buffalo better than WPG and VGK.

Eakin is not elite though. That is assured.
- TheSabresTaco

Eakins was good on the jets. Check those stats

Teams are going to kill each other if true...each team would play the other 7 teams 9sh times, lol.

Players have been asked for another 13% deferral, on top of the 10% already agreed to.
Owners would pay about 62% of their salary...and Bonuses paid would increase that % depending on number of players and amount of the bonus.
- IonSabres

Vaccinate the athletes, remove bubbles and intradivision play.

Eakins was good on the jets. Check those stats
- Sabretooth9

This isn't a swamp you're going to want to step in.