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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Nov 21 @ 5:35 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: York and Desnoyers Friday Updates
Dak prescott's ankle
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.16.2020

Nov 21 @ 7:26 AM ET
Thanks for the update, Bill!

These two kids are definitely fun to keep an eye on!


All in all it seemed like a really strong drafting year for our guys! The next few years will tell the tala
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 21 @ 7:50 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: York and Desnoyers Friday Updates
- bmeltzer



Thanks Bill.

Should the first line read: did not record a point re: York?
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 21 @ 8:08 AM ET
Has anyone already heard the Shayne Gostisbehere to Chicago for Dylan Strome rumor?
landros 2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 21 @ 8:11 AM ET
Strome for ghost ? Where did you see that ?
Bendecko
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Doing space coke with the aliens
Joined: 02.29.2020

Nov 21 @ 8:18 AM ET
Strome for ghost ? Where did you see that ?
- landros 2

from fan's blogs:
https://www.letsgoflyers.net/articles/shayne-gostisbehere-to-the-chicago-blackhawks/
https://blackhawkup.com/2020/11/08/chicago-blackhawks-running-shayne-gostisbehere/
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 21 @ 8:26 AM ET
from fan's blogs:
https://www.letsgoflyers.net/articles/shayne-gostisbehere-to-the-chicago-blackhawks/
https://blackhawkup.com/2020/11/08/chicago-blackhawks-running-shayne-gostisbehere/

- Bendecko


So in other words, there is likely nothing to it.
landros 2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 21 @ 8:27 AM ET
from fan's blogs:
https://www.letsgoflyers.net/articles/shayne-gostisbehere-to-the-chicago-blackhawks/
https://blackhawkup.com/2020/11/08/chicago-blackhawks-running-shayne-gostisbehere/

- Bendecko


Thanks....

A few notes . The one source was Eklund. The other article suggested Strome + for Ghost? Lol....a third overall pick only 5 years ago, that has already had some success in the NHL...if I’m the Flyers I do this all day long. If I’m Chicago I ask for more then Ghost.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 21 @ 8:32 AM ET
I have not.

I would approve this. Chicago will not.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Nov 21 @ 10:45 AM ET
Ghost for anything is a win for philly.
login
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Nov 21 @ 11:12 AM ET
Ghost for anything is a win for philly.
- SMS4016

good college card, who we hve
hereticpride
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 21 @ 12:17 PM ET
Dwight Howard off the bench. Yes please.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 21 @ 12:43 PM ET
Strome for ghost ? Where did you see that ?
- landros 2

https://www.google.com/am...-shayne-gostisbehere/amp/
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Nov 21 @ 3:14 PM ET
I like it too. They need a big who can spell Embiid some minutes. Howard looked alright in the bubble. For one year in a vet minimum contract, why not?
hereticpride
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 21 @ 4:39 PM ET
I like it too. They need a big who can spell Embiid some minutes. Howard looked alright in the bubble. For one year in a vet minimum contract, why not?
- Pelle31Forever

Absolutely. And we know what a hit it is to the team when Embiid goes out. I like the move.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 21 @ 6:46 PM ET
Random musings about Voracek on a slow day:

When Voracek is in beast mode, he is a possession demon. Sometimes, he goes along the boards in a counter-clockwise direction, and comes back around the net the other side. A few times, it is almost a 360 cycle, a la Foppa. Unlike the great Swede however, he always has the puck on his backhand in such cycles, and never manages to turn around to his forehand, let alone go to the net. Given how far away he is from the net, and given his aversion to flinging the puck towards it, the opposing D is content to let him do his perimeter thing.


Once again, this seems to me something that could be solvable by having him play left wing. Now, I know if something as obvious as this is not being done, there must be very good reasons for it, but in some of his most effective shifts, he is circling the net keeping puck between body and boards anyway, but if he is able to do it on his forehand, once he comes back out the other side his vision should be a lot better to make a play towards the goal.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Nov 21 @ 6:51 PM ET
Voracek was the reason why I wanted the Flyers to re-sign Jagr after the 2012 season. I thought Jake could have learned so much more from his presence outside of a year.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 21 @ 6:58 PM ET
Voracek was the reason why I wanted the Flyers to re-sign Jagr after the 2012 season. I thought Jake could have learned so much more from his presence outside of a year.
- KGBflyers10


I remember Elias saying after that horrendous 2012 series that he thought Voracek was going to be a great player or something like that. Even given the fellow Czech boosting, I have to confess I am disappointed the way his career has turned out here. I expected more, especially after the first half of the '13 or was it '14 year when he was on pace to a 120 point season.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Nov 21 @ 11:22 PM ET
Absolutely. And we know what a hit it is to the team when Embiid goes out. I like the move.
- hereticpride
No one cares about the Sucksers on here. Thanks!!
Tomahawk
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 21 @ 11:40 PM ET
Thanks....

A few notes . The one source was Eklund. The other article suggested Strome + for Ghost? Lol....a third overall pick only 5 years ago, that has already had some success in the NHL...if I’m the Flyers I do this all day long. If I’m Chicago I ask for more then Ghost.

- landros 2


"NHL insider" Eklund lol

Strome isnt exactly the bell of the ball himself. Below average skating, iffy defensively, not the most competitive either. And due for a substantial raise that he'll probably fail to live up to.

Make no mistake, if it happens, it's a problem for problem trade. The 'Hawks don't want a $4-5M 3C, just like Ghost would be too expensive to be a third pair D.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 22 @ 6:57 AM ET
Random musings about Voracek on a slow day:

When Voracek is in beast mode, he is a possession demon. Sometimes, he goes along the boards in a counter-clockwise direction, and comes back around the net the other side. A few times, it is almost a 360 cycle, a la Foppa. Unlike the great Swede however, he always has the puck on his backhand in such cycles, and never manages to turn around to his forehand, let alone go to the net. Given how far away he is from the net, and given his aversion to flinging the puck towards it, the opposing D is content to let him do his perimeter thing.


Once again, this seems to me something that could be solvable by having him play left wing. Now, I know if something as obvious as this is not being done, there must be very good reasons for it, but in some of his most effective shifts, he is circling the net keeping puck between body and boards anyway, but if he is able to do it on his forehand, once he comes back out the other side his vision should be a lot better to make a play towards the goal.

- PT21


This is just a regurgitation of the same argument you tried to make with Giroux. You're stuck in a rut. Voracek can play both wings but again, same thing as you were told concerning Giroux. His stick will have a better angle to the ice and the net playing the right side as a LH shot. You want him to change sides based on a play that only happens occasionally. Again, not well thought out.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 22 @ 8:43 AM ET
"NHL insider" Eklund lol

Strome isnt exactly the bell of the ball himself. Below average skating, iffy defensively, not the most competitive either. And due for a substantial raise that he'll probably fail to live up to.

Make no mistake, if it happens, it's a problem for problem trade. The 'Hawks don't want a $4-5M 3C, just like Ghost would be too expensive to be a third pair D.

- Tomahawk


Peter Richards
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Nov 22 @ 10:21 AM ET
Voracek was the reason why I wanted the Flyers to re-sign Jagr after the 2012 season. I thought Jake could have learned so much more from his presence outside of a year.
- KGBflyers10


I as well wish jagr would’ve stayed an additional year.
landros 2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 22 @ 10:22 AM ET
"NHL insider" Eklund lol

Strome isnt exactly the bell of the ball himself. Below average skating, iffy defensively, not the most competitive either. And due for a substantial raise that he'll probably fail to live up to.

Make no mistake, if it happens, it's a problem for problem trade. The 'Hawks don't want a $4-5M 3C, just like Ghost would be too expensive to be a third pair D.

- Tomahawk


All good points...but I still don’t see Chicago going straight up. The contract Strome seems to want does seem like an overpay.
landros 2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 22 @ 10:29 AM ET
Voracek was the reason why I wanted the Flyers to re-sign Jagr after the 2012 season. I thought Jake could have learned so much more from his presence outside of a year.
- KGBflyers10


Jake is super talented....I am always left wanting more of it on a consistent basis. I remember some of his games for the Cheq’s national team where he’s the best player on the ice and you think to yourself “where’s that game for the Flyers?”...When someone is that talented the expectations are always higher. I’ve learned to temper my expectations with him. There are nights where he raises to that star level. Then there are nights where he really poops the bed.
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