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Would think the 4th line would be Harkins-Thompson-Perreault, but hoping that they find a home for Perrreault before the season and it's Harkins-Thompson-Appleton.
Every team needs a gritty veteran on the 3rd/4th line and I am happy to see Thompson on the squad, brings some much needed sandpaper.. Not so much Lewis. Too much like Bourque/Shore/Whoever IMO. A little of a lot, but not much of anything. I would cut Lewis loose!
- grahamzky
Thompson has been outperformed by Lewis in every single year of their respective careers. It isn’t even close.
Nate Thompson has never been an NHL caliber player in any single measurable facet of his game, at any point in time. There cannot be a place for him on this team if we want to win. Tampa can pull it off with him as a hidden 4C last season, but we can’t. We don’t have the talent level. Especially not with Maurice feeding him minutes on the PK |
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Time will tell what? We know right now that Thompson is the worst NHL contracted forward in the organization.
Harkins-Lewis-Appleton works just fine in a Roslovic-less world. That’s fine. Thompson cannot have a place in the lineup if we want to win, both from a performance and philosophical standpoint
- Rexypoo[/quote
Was referring to the original point about Leafs signing fossils and potentially stunting the development of their prospects and that it's not just a Jets thing.
Leafs can attract higher profile fossils because it's Toronto and home to so many players. |
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It’s more of a Chevy problem. If Chevy really believes in the kids that he has drafted and is currently “developing”, he would not sign these veterans. Rather he would force Maurice to play the young kids. Chevy has no confidence in the scouting staff, the development staff and in my opinion has no confidence in himself! That’s what prevents him from making trades, signing free agents, and doing tasks that other GM’s are able to do. It also causes him to regularly take days off. The more I watch him, the more of a mess I see.
- TheUltimateJet
I have said before that it is a Chevy problem. He signs the players. Maurice has to coach what he is given.
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Is shieffle back from injury? |
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I have said before that it is a Chevy problem. He signs the players. Maurice has to coach what he is given.
- bennythehat
Benny gets it! 
We need a new GM to accurately assess Maurice as a coach. One of the two (Chevy or Maurice) or both need to go. |
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Thompson has been outperformed by Lewis in every single year of their respective careers. It isn’t even close.
Nate Thompson has never been an NHL caliber player in any single measurable facet of his game, at any point in time. There cannot be a place for him on this team if we want to win. Tampa can pull it off with him as a hidden 4C last season, but we can’t. We don’t have the talent level. Especially not with Maurice feeding him minutes on the PK
- Rexypoo
Serious question, what do you use to determine that Thompson has never been an NHL caliber player at any time of his career?
Habs fans really liked Thompson, say he was a good 4C for them. |
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Is shieffle back from injury?
- SMS4016
Assuming you mean the injury he got in the first game of the playin against Calgary, yes he is. |
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I have said before that it is a Chevy problem. He signs the players. Maurice has to coach what he is given.
- bennythehat
Not to cut Chevy any slack but is he not just signing the guys Maurice wants?
Last year it was Letestu and Bourque, this year it's Thompson and Lewis, from all the local media I've heard interviewed that are watching camp and from what Maurice has said in his interviews it sounds like the head coach is leaning towards a Thompson/Lewis anchoring the 4th line, really seems like Chevy is just giving Maurice what he wants.
To me Maurice is convinced that a regular top 6
and two 4th lines is how you're going to win in this league, imo that is never going to work but we'll see, the 4th line should be better this season so that should help a bit at least. |
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Not to cut Chevy any slack but is he not just signing the guys Maurice wants?
Last year it was Letestu and Bourque, this year it's Thompson and Lewis, from all the local media I've heard interviewed that are watching camp and from what Maurice has said in his interviews it sounds like the head coach is leaning towards a Thompson/Lewis anchoring the 4th line, really seems like Chevy is just giving Maurice what he wants.
To me Maurice is convinced that a regular top 6
and two 4th lines is how you're going to win in this league, imo that is never going to work but we'll see, the 4th line should be better this season so that should help a bit at least.
- JetFuel
Possible that Maurice is dictating to Chevy.....but does that extend to the draft choices as well ?
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Possible that Maurice is dictating to Chevy.....but does that extend to the draft choices as well ?
- bennythehat
That I'm not sure about though I'm sure he has some input, I swear the Logan Stanley selection was all Maurice.. Lol
Honestly other then the 1st round pick I think half to all draft picks should be trade chips every season for the foreseeable future and many of this organizations B-prospects should be used as trade chips or "sweeteners" in deals to acquire help where it's needed, preferably for someone with a bit of term or RFA status though. |
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2021 Beverly Hillbillies song (on the off chance that Ek is correct)
Well the next thing you know, Laine is a pouty millionaire.
His agent said, Pat, move away from there.
Said California is the place ya oughta be.
So he packed up his gear and moved to Beverly...
Hills that is.....laid back culture, video games..... |
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Rexypoo
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Rexypoo
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Not to cut Chevy any slack but is he not just signing the guys Maurice wants?
Last year it was Letestu and Bourque, this year it's Thompson and Lewis, from all the local media I've heard interviewed that are watching camp and from what Maurice has said in his interviews it sounds like the head coach is leaning towards a Thompson/Lewis anchoring the 4th line, really seems like Chevy is just giving Maurice what he wants.
To me Maurice is convinced that a regular top 6
and two 4th lines is how you're going to win in this league, imo that is never going to work but we'll see, the 4th line should be better this season so that should help a bit at least.
- JetFuel
Why would the 4th line be better? Lewis is better than Bourque and Letestu, but Thompson is worse. I reckon it evens out. |
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Rexypoo
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2021 Beverly Hillbillies song (on the off chance that Ek is correct)
Well the next thing you know, Laine is a pouty millionaire.
His agent said, Pat, move away from there.
Said California is the place ya oughta be.
So he packed up his gear and moved to Beverly...
Hills that is.....laid back culture, video games.....
- bennythehat
I don’t expect Vancouver to trade Elias Pettersson now that he has a Twitch channel. Or Toronto with Marner.
If I was an NHL player, I’d have my Xbox in my bag always. I’m 80% sure that’s why everyone complains about Winnipeg wifi on the road. They’re murdering the hotel’s internet |
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Interestingly Ek has post on here that Laine says he would extend in either LA or Anaheim.
H-m-m-m? |
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bikeguy99
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E.Gustafsson and Barrie are defensive liabilities though, Morrissey was signed pre Covid changed the cap situation in the league plus Morrissey signed for 8 years which always drives the AAV up, comparing Morrissey's deal to those two and Vatanen's makes no sense, different type of dmen and different signing situations, if the Jets made Morrissey available there'd be plenty of interested teams.
- JetFuel
Yes the listed players are probably not as sound defensively. That being said, they double JoMo's ppg. Again, I think JoMo is the Jets top D, and the signing made sense at the time (pre-covid). That being said, if you think there is a lineup of GM's hoping to acquire his contract, you are wrong. |
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Why would the 4th line be better? Lewis is better than Bourque and Letestu, but Thompson is worse. I reckon it evens out.
- Rexypoo
Can't see Thompson being worse then those two. |
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Yes the listed players are probably not as sound defensively. That being said, they double JoMo's ppg. Again, I think JoMo is the Jets top D, and the signing made sense at the time (pre-covid). That being said, if you think there is a lineup of GM's hoping to acquire his contract, you are wrong.
- bikeguy99
No they don't double JoMo's ppg, he out produced E.Gustafsson, was almost exactly the same as Vatanen and was a little behind Barrie last season.
Doubt that, I'm sure there'd be plenty of GM's interested in acquiring Morrissey. |
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bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils |
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No they don't double JoMo's ppg, he out produced E.Gustafsson, was almost exactly the same as Vatanen and was a little behind Barrie last season.
Doubt that, I'm sure there'd be plenty of GM's interested in acquiring Morrissey.
- JetFuel
K let me be more specific. Stay with me. When Morrissey was inked, Gustafsson and Barrie were each 60+ point players. JoMo's career high is 31. So yes, doubled. Now flash forward to post Covid, their are inked between 3-4M. This is the market value and how the players have dropped. If JoMo was a UFA today, no chance he is sniffing north of 6M. No chance. Good D who realistically is a 2/3 guy on most teams, but get to bear the weight of the load with the Jets for now.
This really isn't worth debating, since nobody would offer much for JoMo's contract, nor do the Jets have anybody available to fill his void. |
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Well if jfresh says so then yeah I guess Thompson has got to be bad... 😂
- JetFuel
That’s correct. You have reached the correct conclusion. |
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Rexypoo
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Can't see Thompson being worse then those two.
- JetFuel
You’d be surprised |
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Rexypoo
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K let me be more specific. Stay with me. When Morrissey was inked, Gustafsson and Barrie were each 60+ point players. JoMo's career high is 31. So yes, doubled. Now flash forward to post Covid, their are inked between 3-4M. This is the market value and how the players have dropped. If JoMo was a UFA today, no chance he is sniffing north of 6M. No chance. Good D who realistically is a 2/3 guy on most teams, but get to bear the weight of the load with the Jets for now.
This really isn't worth debating, since nobody would offer much for JoMo's contract, nor do the Jets have anybody available to fill his void.
- bikeguy99
I don’t often agree with you, but I totally agree with you here |
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