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Sean Maloughney
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 09.21.2020

Jan 5 @ 2:16 PM ET
Sean Maloughney: Kraken Hire Jason Botterill as AGM
Jack Straw
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CO
Joined: 02.21.2018

Jan 5 @ 3:01 PM ET
Ronnie must've been enjoyin' some of the best mindbending Pacific NW strains before making this decision.
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Jan 5 @ 3:11 PM ET
Botterill is the only idiot that would live in a hell hole of a city called Seattle. Run for your lives anybody that’s made available to this nightmare.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jan 5 @ 3:33 PM ET
the "Crack"-en (see what I did there) Might as well hire Disco Dan Bylsma because he did win a cup while in Pittsburgh....
r8edr
Joined: 07.06.2012

Jan 5 @ 3:55 PM ET
Some people are better suited at being assistances, then being the one that makes the decision. When teams hire other teams ASM, you always hear about how they were the ones behind a great trade, signing, drafting etc.. you never hear about all the worthless ideas that the other teams GM rejected, or all the bad deals that the GM made on the recommendation of the ASM. Those fall at the feet of the GM. Botterill may just be a good ASM, but a lousy GM.

As for his deals, not many teams were lining up to trade for O'Reilly, and Kane was given plenty of chances but could never put it together for a complete season. I don't think many had an issue with letting him go, especially after trading for Skinner. Signing Skinner for 9m a year was far too much.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Cochrane, AB
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jan 5 @ 4:12 PM ET
Sean Maloughney: Kraken Hire Jason Botterill as AGM
- Sean Maloughney


Ouch. I knew Ronnie was not too smart but this is best he could do?
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jan 5 @ 7:43 PM ET
Some people are better suited at being assistances, then being the one that makes the decision. When teams hire other teams ASM, you always hear about how they were the ones behind a great trade, signing, drafting etc.. you never hear about all the worthless ideas that the other teams GM rejected, or all the bad deals that the GM made on the recommendation of the ASM. Those fall at the feet of the GM. Botterill may just be a good ASM, but a lousy GM.

As for his deals, not many teams were lining up to trade for O'Reilly, and Kane was given plenty of chances but could never put it together for a complete season. I don't think many had an issue with letting him go, especially after trading for Skinner. Signing Skinner for 9m a year was far too much.

- r8edr


Hard to say if bott’s was good or overrated due to Rutherford being handed a cup championship team. A better example to your point would be Paul Fenton. Widely regarded as one of the best AGM in the league while he was in Nashville completely pooped the bed in Minnesota (even though I do suspect meddling going on with higher management as Guerin who was also highly touted is doing hardly better)

I’ll also add to this that the guy that’s arguably the best GM in hockey right now also got next to nothing for O’reilly. I know that doesn’t mean anything between two different GM’s but it goes to show when a players either unhappy or has attitude it’s nearly impossible to get close to fair value back.

abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Jan 5 @ 9:25 PM ET
Botterill is the only idiot that would live in a hell hole of a city called Seattle. Run for your lives anybody that’s made available to this nightmare.
- Angus4444

Yeah right? Who would want to live in a beautiful temperate coastal city near oceans, mountains and every terrain in between that is consistently ranked high on any list of best cities to live in, not only in the US, but the world???
Heywood Jablome
Joined: 06.26.2020

Jan 5 @ 9:49 PM ET
Botterill is the only idiot that would live in a hell hole of a city called Seattle. Run for your lives anybody that’s made available to this nightmare.
- Angus4444

Very opinionated for someone who's only seen Seattle in Postcards.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: North of the 49th, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 6 @ 1:09 AM ET
Inmate mail? Lol
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Jan 8 @ 9:11 AM ET
Very opinionated for someone who's only seen Seattle in Postcards.
- Heywood Jablome

Your tinfoil hat is crooked Woody. Did you watch that documentary about the decline of Seattle. Maybe you could put a picture of those postcards up for us to see. You know, the ones of people pooping , shooting up, dead people laying the chop.
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Jan 8 @ 9:14 AM ET
Yeah right? Who would want to live in a beautiful temperate coastal city near oceans, mountains and every terrain in between that is consistently ranked high on any list of best cities to live in, not only in the US, but the world???
- abware

Bull. Unless your into no go zones, pooping in the streets, shooting up in public, and a crime rate that’s souring. Just like the other fool on here watch the documentary on YouTube called the Soul of Seattle.
Amanion
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jan 8 @ 12:27 PM ET
Maybe Botterill likes Rain? The only city with fewer sunny days than Pittsburgh is Seattle....
Honestly, Botterill was great when he was in Pittsburgh. I was surprised it didnt go better for him in Buffalo. One wonders if the Pegulas have created an environment where it is difficult to be a successful front office....
He was once considered one of the best GM's in waiting. Is he best suited to be a AGM? If he does well as an AGM in Seattle, he may just get another shot as a GM. If not, it will be the end of the road for him.
Just remember how quick tides can turn. People in PIT ready to erect statues to Jim Rutherford in 2017... Now some are ready to run him out after a series of poor signings and trades---ALL POST BOTTERILL...
Heywood Jablome
Joined: 06.26.2020

Jan 8 @ 8:30 PM ET
Your tinfoil hat is crooked Woody. Did you watch that documentary about the decline of Seattle. Maybe you could put a picture of those postcards up for us to see. You know, the ones of people pooping , shooting up, dead people laying the chop.
- Angus4444

Anyone who makes decisions based on Youtube videos, well, say no more.

Eagles Fans throwing snowballs at Santa, I still went to Philly.
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Jan 8 @ 9:08 PM ET
Anyone who makes decisions based on Youtube videos, well, say no more.

Eagles Fans throwing snowballs at Santa, I still went to Philly.

- Heywood Jablome

Are you this stupid ? I wasn’t watching a cartoon. Actual footage of everything I mentioned. You ran the first black female police chief out of town, judges for doing there job. Pooping on the street gets you a ticket if they feel like writing one. Go to North Philly at night and get back to me fool.
Heywood Jablome
Joined: 06.26.2020

Jan 8 @ 9:44 PM ET
Are you this stupid ? I wasn’t watching a cartoon. Actual footage of everything I mentioned. You ran the first black female police chief out of town, judges for doing there job. Pooping on the street gets you a ticket if they feel like writing one. Go to North Philly at night and get back to me fool.
- Angus4444

Neither was I.
I'm sure if I really wanted to I could dig up the shady side of Philly.

You are passing judgement on a City based on 1 hr of youtube. I call people like that ignorant.
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Jan 9 @ 5:45 AM ET
Neither was I.
I'm sure if I really wanted to I could dig up the shady side of Philly.

You are passing judgement on a City based on 1 hr of youtube. I call people like that ignorant.

- Heywood Jablome

This started years ago. Watch the documentary. Shady side of Philly ? I grew up there .it’s been shady for decades. Your dense man. I mean this is the third or fourth time I just said watch it. You can’t because your brainwashed. I call people like you fat and lazy.
abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Jan 9 @ 1:25 PM ET
This started years ago. Watch the documentary. Shady side of Philly ? I grew up there .it’s been shady for decades. Your dense man. I mean this is the third or fourth time I just said watch it. You can’t because your brainwashed. I call people like you fat and lazy.
- Angus4444

Dude, have you actually been to Seattle? If no, shut up and learn some grammar. I call people like you stupid. All cities have a shady side, just because you saw one doc. highlighting the poopty side doesnt mean that's the whole story. Stop believing everything you see on the internet.
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Jan 9 @ 8:24 PM ET
Dude, have you actually been to Seattle? If no, shut up and learn some grammar. I call people like you stupid. All cities have a shady side, just because you saw one doc. highlighting the poopty side doesnt mean that's the whole story. Stop believing everything you see on the internet.
- abware

It’s areal time documentary. What kind of stupid are you ? Watch it then come back at me with some facts. Oh and I have no rebuttal so I’ll pick on his spelling. Your a mutt of the lowest kind. WATCH THE DOC !
abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Jan 9 @ 9:52 PM ET
It’s areal time documentary. What kind of stupid are you ? Watch it then come back at me with some facts. Oh and I have no rebuttal so I’ll pick on his spelling. Your a mutt of the lowest kind. WATCH THE DOC !
- Angus4444

Heywood Jablome
Joined: 06.26.2020

Jan 10 @ 5:56 AM ET
It’s areal time documentary. What kind of stupid are you ? Watch it then come back at me with some facts. Oh and I have no rebuttal so I’ll pick on his spelling. Your a mutt of the lowest kind. WATCH THE DOC !
- Angus4444

Heywood Jablome
Joined: 06.26.2020

Jan 10 @ 6:03 AM ET

- Heywood Jablome

A youtube video about addiction is your platform, really ?