Right and because he’s uselsss defensively and on special teams that nullifies a lot of what he brings to the table.
- Pegullaville

But he’s not useless defensively. He’s not the best defensive forward but he is far from useless.

Right and because he’s uselsss defensively and on special teams that nullifies a lot of what he brings to the table.
- Pegullaville

Not on a line with Eichel where the primary responsibility is providing offense and they typically dominate play

This is on Ralph

Not Skinner

Right and because he’s uselsss defensively and on special teams that nullifies a lot of what he brings to the table.
- Pegullaville

Yeah he's the sole reason Carolina sucked and missed the playoffs for 9 years straight. And Brind'amour saw it.

Contract years are so blown out of proportion - He had a play-making, superstar center for the first time in his career and scored 40, with a flat 0 +/- on a very bad team. Those last 25 games were AFTER he got slew-footed and was playing injured.

But please tell me how the Bills won yesterday, and then I'll listen. Oh wait.

They had a bad GM who thought Adam Larsson was a better D than he was. He was a top 5 draft pick in his draft year.

Next question
- GilPerreault11

The Sabres have a bad coach who thinks he's more intelligent then he really is?

Re watching some of the scrimmage.

Holy hell does Hutton suck.

I see a trend of crapping on all Sabres players except Skinner by many posters on here, even ones who haven't had a 14 goal season and earned, let me see 10 million last year.

Now, if we want to talk about people and issues this may take a while.
- GilPerreault11

To be fair, the Sabres have had so very many bad players for so many years that they are easy targets.

Yeah he's the sole reason Carolina sucked and missed the playoffs for 9 years straight. And Brind'amour saw it.

Contract years are so blown out of proportion - He had a play-making, superstar center for the first time in his career and scored 40, with a flat 0 +/- on a very bad team. Those last 25 games were AFTER he got slew-footed and was playing injured.

But please tell me how the Bills won yesterday, and then I'll listen. Oh wait.
- 3rd GM's the charm

Skinner is a one dimensional goal scorer, nothing more nothing less.

Offers no playmaking ability, no special teams ability, and if he isn’t scoring he’s hurting you more then helping you.

Probably why Rod Brind’Amour and Ralph hate him because there is more to the game of hockey then goal scoring, especially when you aren’t scoring.

Yeah he's the sole reason Carolina sucked and missed the playoffs for 9 years straight. And Brind'amour saw it.

Contract years are so blown out of proportion - He had a play-making, superstar center for the first time in his career and scored 40, with a flat 0 +/- on a very bad team. Those last 25 games were AFTER he got slew-footed and was playing injured.

But please tell me how the Bills won yesterday, and then I'll listen. Oh wait.
- 3rd GM's the charm

Skinner does a thing called ... scores goals. He can score 20+ goals a year in his sleep. He even was on pace for that last year.

Lamar's running scare the bejesus out of me, but he blows as a passer. It would make me nervous, but I could see Buffalo finding their way past the Ravens

@Sabremetrix
2019/20 Sabres 5v5 Goals per 60:
1.) Skinner 1.06
2.) Eichel 0.92
3.) Reinhart 0.87

In a career worst shooting % season, with bad linemates, he was still our best natural goal scorer
- sbroads24

But, but he didn't have s center or something life wasn't fair to the forgiven one. How dare VO take the position he was owed, right next to Jack. Those 14 goals make good advanced stats. I've seen 4th liners with 5v5 pts per 60 high because when you don't play that much and score it inflates that stat.

Why is it always fair to take out the first 60 games of Skinner as a Sabre where he scored a majority of his goals, but not the first 15 of Olofsson’s before teams adjusted to his PP shot?

Olofsson is a bottom 6 forward at 5 on 5 and Skinner is a top 20 winger 5 on 5.

It’s amazing how bad Krueger is

But, but he didn't have s center or something life wasn't fair to the forgiven one. How dare VO take the position he was owed, right next to Jack. Those 14 goals make good advanced stats. I've seen 4th liners with 5v5 pts per 60 high because when you don't play that much and score it inflates that stat.
- GilPerreault11

Oh so you think that number was lower when Skinner was on the first line in 18’-19?

Or maybe we will just stick with you don’t know much about stats

Skinner is a one dimensional goal scorer, nothing more nothing less.

Offers no playmaking ability, no special teams ability, and if he isn’t scoring he’s hurting you more then helping you.

Probably why Rod Brind’Amour and Ralph hate him because there is more to the game of hockey then goal scoring, especially when you aren’t scoring.
- Pegullaville

No one is arguing that Skinner isn't a one-dimensional goal-scorer. No one.

But in a league where one-dimensional players like Johan (frank)ing Larsson have people jacking off over him and players like Jeff Skinner are vilified, you have to understand that a team full of the regular sized guys from ICE HOCKEY on the NES is the worst team you can choose and you will ALWAYS lose unless you have one of the skinny guys on your team.

You need a team with role players and you need to coach to their strengths or get the hell out of the game.

Capiche?

Lamar's running scare the bejesus out of me, but he blows as a passer. It would make me nervous, but I could see Buffalo finding their way past the Ravens
- IonSabres

As I’m watching this game. I might be changing my tune on wanting to play the ravens

Derrick henry looks dead right now.

Skinner does a thing called ... scores goals. He can score 20+ goals a year in his sleep. He even was on pace for that last year.
- Sabretooth9

But he's not Johan Larsson so clearly he sucks.

Titans punting on 4th and 2 from the Ravens 40. I hope they lose now

No one is arguing that Skinner isn't a one-dimensional goal-scorer. No one.

But in a league where one-dimensional players like Johan (frank)ing Larsson have people jacking off over him and players like Jeff Skinner are vilified, you have to understand that a team full of the regular sized guys from ICE HOCKEY on the NES is the worst team you can choose and you will ALWAYS lose unless you have one of the skinny guys on your team.

You need a team with role players and you need to coach to their strengths or get the hell out of the game.

Capiche?
- 3rd GM's the charm

Larry is being paid $1.4M and his contributions defensively contribute heavily to the team in winning games.

Skinner is paid $9M and unless he’s scores 30 + goals he’s useless.

Tage Thomson is going to show you how much cap space we have wasted this year.

Skinner is paid $9M and unless he’s scores 30 + goals he’s useless.


- Pegullaville

hire a soccer czar that buries him on the 4th line makes perfect sense in a cap era

But, but he didn't have s center or something life wasn't fair to the forgiven one. How dare VO take the position he was owed, right next to Jack. Those 14 goals make good advanced stats. I've seen 4th liners with 5v5 pts per 60 high because when you don't play that much and score it inflates that stat.
- GilPerreault11

Olofsson 2020 season; 9 EV G's
Skinner's 2019-'20 season; 32 EV goals

Jesus Christ, the discussion is over.

Titans punting on 4th and 2 from the Ravens 40. I hope they lose now
- jcragcrumple

and a crap punt to go with it

Olofsson 2020 season; 9 EV G's
Skinner's 2019-'20 season; 32 EV goals

Jesus Christ, the discussion is over.
- IonSabres

but
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But, but he didn't have s center or something life wasn't fair to the forgiven one. How dare VO take the position he was owed, right next to Jack. Those 14 goals make good advanced stats. I've seen 4th liners with 5v5 pts per 60 high because when you don't play that much and score it inflates that stat.
- GilPerreault11

😅😅😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂

Skinner does a thing called ... scores goals. He can score 20+ goals a year in his sleep. He even was on pace for that last year.
- Sabretooth9

Then stop pouting like a little cu** and score.

He should be able to score on a line with Eakin/Lazar as his Center and Cozens on the RW

Put up or shut up.

Kessel was on the Penguins third line and it worked out well for them.

Larry is being paid $1.4M and his contributions defensively contribute heavily to the team in winning games.

Skinner is paid $9M and unless he’s scores 30 + goals he’s useless.

Tage Thomson is going to show you how much cap space we have wasted this year.
- Pegullaville

This is laughable.

Johan Larsson has never played on a playoff team and neither has Jeff Skinner. Not to mention, Johan Larsson played on some all-time worst teams. The only thing he ever contributed to was tanking.

Holy crap you are the worst arguer I have ever encountered. Ever.

and a crap punt to go with it
- homiedclown

That was awful, awful coaching