Skinner is not able to do that. He needs help
- Sabretooth9

He was producing at a 19 goal pace over an 82 game season last year playing with dogpoop players.

He was producing at a 19 goal pace over an 82 game season last year playing with dogpoop players.
- kingcong39

And scores 40 with Eichel

And scores 40 with Eichel
- Sabretooth9

i think his point is, tage gets nothing playing with crap but probably get 20 with eichel. meanwhile skinner gets 20 with crap and 40 with eichel.. if that is even the case its still a wash on total goals but spreads out the scoring over more lines..

i think his point is, tage gets nothing playing with crap but probably get 20 with eichel. meanwhile skinner gets 20 with crap and 40 with eichel.. if that is even the case its still a wash on total goals but spreads out the scoring over more lines..
- SabresFaninIndiana

I think that's what Ralph believes.

let's see how this lineup works and what happens in the first few games
- Michael Pachla

- Chris16

i like your style

https://www.nbcsports.com...-debt-declares-bankruptcy

Maybe Lazar will come out and play like a 1st rnd pick with Skinner

Maybe Lazar will come out and play like a 1st rnd pick with Skinner
- Buff36

ha

ha
- SabresFaninIndiana

Hey, we can hope

It's incredible.

The solution is simple -

Through Skinner's career, he generates offense for himself and his linemates at a very good clip. So put him on a line that's job is to produce offense and let it be.
- sbroads24

If skinner played with hall and Eichel , he could score 35-40. Without him playing with Eichel he scored 14. That’s new found 26 goals. If Thompson plays with Eichel he might score 20. I believe Thompson will be good, on a 3rd line he might score 12-15. That is a total difference of 21 goals over an 80 game schedule. You add Staal and Hall added goals. You could get to 3/4 to one goal a game more. Krueger needs to have as much scoring on his top 9 and have one combination line of Rieder, Eakins, sheahan,Okposo

i think his point is, tage gets nothing playing with crap but probably get 20 with eichel. meanwhile skinner gets 20 with crap and 40 with eichel.. if that is even the case its still a wash on total goals but spreads out the scoring over more lines..
- SabresFaninIndiana

makes sense if skinner is on the second line with staal and reinhart


makes no sense if playing 10 minutes a night on the 4th line


once ralph gets that reo speedwagon line rolling his is going to use it like the log line 13 plus minutes a night

Do you think Ralph is just sticking to his guns that everyone must play well without the puck and defensively responsible, and as soon as Skinner shows he’s willing/able to do so he will jump back up in the lineup? (Has Ralph come out and said that Skinner is down the lineup because of his defensive effort, or does he just say he wants to spread the scoring out?) Does Ralph adamantly think if Skinner is going to be there long term he has to make a better all around player out of him, or could there be ulterior motives to make Skinner more willing to waive any trade limits?
It’s interesting that Quennville is doing pretty much the same thing to the PP specialist/defensively lax Yandle. Ekblad has been on PP1 while others were getting work on PP2. Yandle even spent the last couple of days skating with the second group (fringe players/taxi squad) at practice.
- Ratsreign

First, Ralph has made it abundantly clear that Skinner needs to commit himself to defensive play away from the puck..going so ar as to bring up several Zoom calls between the two in which they reviewed game film to be certain Ralph communicates exactly what he meant specific to Skinner's play. He doubled down on that most recently statingthat the Coaching Staff is working with Skinner to develop that side of the play.
So no, IMO it isn't merely spreading out scoring, even though he justifies his punishment as such.

Speculation and conspiracy theories are certainly interesting and fun to consider. One has to ask why though? If Skinner could be a perennial 35-45 Goal scorer at a 0+/- with 52.4% CF...is that really hurting the team at $9m...maybe by $1m...but that is a very deceitful way to do so and destroy's the career and reputation of a player...it doesn't seem like a Ralph nor Kevyn type move. So, it may very well happen, but seems like a weak tea to me.
Interesting about Yandle

makes sense if skinner is on the second line with staal and reinhart


makes no sense if playing 10 minutes a night on the 4th line


once ralph gets that reo speedwagon line rolling his is going to use it like the log line 13 plus minutes a night
- homiedclown

and thats where i thought he would be..

okposo and lazer larry day-to-day

and thats where i thought he would be..
- SabresFaninIndiana

Should be

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/sharks/report-sharks-evander-kane-27-million-debt-declares-bankruptcy
- SabresFaninIndiana

looks like he was only going to get about 2 mil this season due to pro rated salary


declare bankruptcy, opt out and then start fresh with 7 mil next season

Dylan Cozens is still working with the Sabres’ second power-play unit alongside Thompson, Staal, Skinner and Ristolainen.

Jack Quinn is with the team’s penalty-kill group.

Complete power-play units:

Reinhart
Eichel-Hall-Olofsson
Dahlin

Skinner
Thompson-Cozens-Staal
Ristolainen

https://twitter.com/LLyso.../1349040801364500480?s=19

First, Ralph has made it abundantly clear that Skinner needs to commit himself to defensive play away from the puck..going so ar as to bring up several Zoom calls between the two in which they reviewed game film to be certain Ralph communicates exactly what he meant specific to Skinner's play. He doubled down on that most recently statingthat the Coaching Staff is working with Skinner to develop that side of the play.
So no, IMO it isn't merely spreading out scoring, even though he justifies his punishment as such.


- IonSabres

this would be like cutting Diggs snaps down 75 percent because he doesn't run block as hard as the coach wants

Dylan Cozens is still working with the Sabres’ second power-play unit alongside Thompson, Staal, Skinner and Ristolainen.

Jack Quinn is with the team’s penalty-kill group.

Complete power-play units:

Reinhart
Eichel-Hall-Olofsson
Dahlin

Skinner
Thompson-Cozens-Staal
Ristolainen

https://twitter.com/LLyso.../1349040801364500480?s=19
- kingcong39

quinn on the pk is interesting


unless he is just filling in for lazar

Is it fair to ask A. What system Ralph is actually employing and B. Is the system any good?
- kingcong39

There was a deep dive on Krueger before last season on The Athletic (90% sure) on the identification and development of the System. The held a Coaches Summit during the summer of 019 in which all the Coaches from the organization (Cinci, Roch, Bflo) in which each was responsible to present their idea of an ideal system and be able to Express the pro/cons...then they decided as a group the exact system to be deployed throughout the org.
IMO, a Great idea BTW.
It was described as a defensively sound 5 man system on D and on the O allowing for creativity.
Seems like Jeff is a bit too creative for Ralph.

quinn on the pk is interesting

unless he is just filling in for lazar
- homiedclown

He's just filling in.

He's not on the top 4 lines currently.

Skinner is high risk, high reward.

Like playing the high rollers table at the Casino.

You are either winning big or losing big.

He doesn’t want defence being sacrificed for offence and I commend that.

We all know Skinner is elite at creating offensive chances, because he doesn’t have an elite shot that’s why he experiences so many up and down scoring seasons across his career.

However when he is not hot and not scoring he’s killing us in every other facet of the sport.
- Pegullaville

Sincere question...not baiting you.
Are 5here specific metrics that you and others use to support this view?

We currently have the #Lightning at $16,516,666 over the cap. In order to maximize their LTIR relief, they need to get as close to $16,975,000 as possible.

Waiving Schenn (-$800,000) and Johnson (-$1,075,000) today helps them get there.

Here's how:

https://twitter.com/CapFr.../1348740769029484550?s=19

$16,516,666 - ($800,000 + $1,075,000) = $14,641,666

$14,641,666 + Foote + 2 league min = $16,966,666

That would use all but $8,334 of their space AND it gets Cal Foote on the roster who has $500,000 in PB's which would give them flexibility with their LTI PB Pool.

https://twitter.com/CapFr.../1348740770736582661?s=19
- kingcong39

Got it,thanks!

Sincere question...not baiting you.
Are 5here specific metrics that you and others use to support this view?
- IonSabres