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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jan 12 @ 5:21 PM ET
Mitts, Olofsson, 2021 and 2022 firsts.

If that ain’t good enough then so be it

- Pegullaville


Cozens is a no go. đź‘Ť

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 12 @ 5:24 PM ET
Cozens will be our best forward outside of Jack, unless Hall resigns, within the next 2 years
- Pegullaville


I agree - because I think Reinhart is probably gone to pay for Hall unless Okposo retires
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jan 12 @ 5:26 PM ET
People who would trade Cozens are just jaded after what happened with Mittelstadt

No way am I trading Cozens + firsts or other pieces for someone like PLD

Cozens is a on a very similar trajectory to PLD

- sbroads24

early indications are that he's very well-centered, very talented and well aware of where he is, what he needs to do and how much it will take to get there
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 12 @ 5:26 PM ET
Which one of Eichel or Reinhart played that role when Skinner scored 40?
- kingcong39

Well Eichel is no slouch around the boards.
kritter65
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jan 12 @ 5:27 PM ET
Since it's more active on this page

Where is a good place to stream games? I live in the UK and miss watching hockey

- dmarsden2988


Did you move to the UK or born/living there ?

What part of the UK ?

What are the odds of you getting me a great job there and paying all my moving expenses ?
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jan 12 @ 5:28 PM ET
I agree - because I think Reinhart is probably gone to pay for Hall unless Okposo retires
- jcragcrumple


I would hope they keep Reinhart over Skinner.

He’s the better player now, and over the years to come.

I also think Cozens can and will be better than both and that is not a slight to Reinhart at all.

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 12 @ 5:35 PM ET
early indications are that he's very well-centered, very talented and well aware of where he is, what he needs to do and how much it will take to get there
- Michael Pachla


As I get older I am becoming more susceptible to narrative and I like his Yukon story
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 12 @ 5:37 PM ET
I would hope they keep Reinhart over Skinner.

He’s the better player now, and over the years to come.

I also think Cozens can and will be better than both and that is not a slight to Reinhart at all.

- Pegullaville


One you would get a positive return for, and one you'd have to pay to offload. Reinhart is the easier choice to jettison. Okposo going away would largely pay to keep Reinhart though

With a stagnant cap, the situation as-is becomes untenable with regard to keeping both Hall and Reinhart without Okposo going to the retirement home
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jan 12 @ 5:43 PM ET
My God we need games to start.


All aboard the skinner sucks bandwagon on this message board
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jan 12 @ 5:45 PM ET
As I get older I am becoming more susceptible to narrative and I like his Yukon story
- jcragcrumple

ya old fart
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 12 @ 5:45 PM ET
My God we need games to start.


All aboard the skinner sucks bandwagon on this message board

- Sabretooth9

If the coach isn’t going to play a god damn 30-40 goal scorer with guys he can score 30-40 goals with (Eichel, Staal) then just let him go to Seattle if he wants to.

It’s a really annoying topic now
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jan 12 @ 5:51 PM ET
If the coach isn’t going to play a god damn 30-40 goal scorer with guys he can score 30-40 goals with (Eichel, Staal) then just let him go to Seattle if he wants to.

It’s a really annoying topic now

- sbroads24

super annoying. considering he has the worst contract in the league, he was untradeable the day he signed it. if we want Seattle to take him, I think the conversation starts with two 1st rd picks going their way for compensation. I would still entertain it.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jan 12 @ 5:52 PM ET
super annoying. considering he has the worst contract in the league. it was untradeable the day he signed it. if we want Seattle to take it, I think the conversation starts with two 1st rd picks going their way for compensation. I would still entertain it.
- TheHank


Fake news. He does not have the worst contract in the league.

Skinner is a good player. He’s not Leino
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jan 12 @ 5:53 PM ET
Fake news. He does not have the worst contract in the league.

Skinner is a good player. He’s not Leino

- Sabretooth9

leino isnt in the nhl.

all things considered, mainly term, who is worse? doughty maybe? not many others. IMO
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 12 @ 6:04 PM ET
leino isnt in the nhl.

all things considered, mainly term, who is worse? doughty maybe? not many others. IMO

- TheHank

Doughty FOR SURE is worse. Doughty was terrible last year and has really aged

Carey Price 10.5 for a goalie who isn’t even top 5. Bobrovsky

There’s quite a few I’d take Skinner’s over, and Skinner’s is for sure bad
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 12 @ 6:07 PM ET
Doughty FOR SURE is worse. Doughty was terrible last year and has really aged

Carey Price 10.5 for a goalie who isn’t even top 5. Bobrovsky

There’s quite a few I’d take Skinner’s over, and Skinner’s is for sure bad

- sbroads24


Burns making 8 million until he is 40

Vlasic
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jan 12 @ 6:08 PM ET
super annoying. considering he has the worst contract in the league, he was untradeable the day he signed it. if we want Seattle to take him, I think the conversation starts with two 1st rd picks going their way for compensation. I would still entertain it.
- TheHank

So, instead of frittering away 2 first round picks, why not get your 25-30+ goals per season from skinner while placing him in a position to succeed?
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jan 12 @ 6:13 PM ET
Burns making 8 million until he is 40

Vlasic

- Mentalorgasm5

I guarantee, when Hall puts up 35+40 this year with Jack, people (ralph included?) will be willing to go 8yrs./$80m for a winger who'll be turning 30 at the beginning of next season.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jan 12 @ 6:15 PM ET
Doughty FOR SURE is worse. Doughty was terrible last year and has really aged

Carey Price 10.5 for a goalie who isn’t even top 5. Bobrovsky

There’s quite a few I’d take Skinner’s over, and Skinner’s is for sure bad

- sbroads24



Skinner is still in his prime and scores 20+ goalies in his sleep each year.

I like him with cozens because if cozens is nhl level comfortable. He will carry the puck like Eichel does
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 12 @ 6:17 PM ET
I guarantee, when Hall puts up 35+40 this year with Jack, people (ralph included?) will be willing to go 8yrs./$80m for a winger who'll be turning 30 at the beginning of next season.
- Michael Pachla


Hopefully that means the Sabres had a playoff season and looked good. I dont want to talk about the alternative on the eve of the season.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jan 12 @ 6:18 PM ET
I guarantee, when Hall puts up 35+40 this year with Jack, people (ralph included?) will be willing to go 8yrs./$80m for a winger who'll be turning 30 at the beginning of next season.
- Michael Pachla

sounds like 6-8 more years before we can start talking about a cup to me. (IMO)
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jan 12 @ 6:18 PM ET
I guarantee, when Hall puts up 35+40 this year with Jack, people (ralph included?) will be willing to go 8yrs./$80m for a winger who'll be turning 30 at the beginning of next season.
- Michael Pachla


It also depends on the economics of the nhl.

Hoffman took 4 mill a year for 1 year. That’s basically half price
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jan 12 @ 6:19 PM ET
Hopefully that means the Sabres had a playoff season and looked good. I dont want to talk about the alternative on the eve of the season.
- jcragcrumple

but but but how could we afford to NOT sign him?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jan 12 @ 6:19 PM ET
People who would trade Cozens are just jaded after what happened with Mittelstadt

No way am I trading Cozens + firsts or other pieces for someone like PLD

Cozens is a on a very similar trajectory to PLD

- sbroads24


You are that certain that Cozens is going to be as good as PLD and while playing Center?

I think that is far from a certainty and by no means a lock.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jan 12 @ 6:20 PM ET
It also depends on the economics of the nhl.

Hoffman took 4 mill a year for 1 year. That’s basically half price

- Sabretooth9

it is half the price.
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