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NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 13 @ 3:53 PM ET
Dreger is also a tool
- Codes1087


Fuck that guy

But also, why a top 6 guy? JTM is only going to be out a few games, unless they know something else to keep him out longer? Plus, getting a top 6 guy now, he'd have to quarantine for two weeks, and Miller would be ready by then (unless it's from a Canadian team).

Would really force things around when JTM returns, too.
Makita
Referee
New York Rangers
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 13 @ 3:54 PM ET
This is obviously a more mature thread than the Leafs thread, because boy oh boy, people woulda pounced on this one.
- Atomic Wedgie

Yes it is, and there is an obvious reason for this. 👋
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 13 @ 3:54 PM ET
Fuck that guy

But also, why a top 6 guy? JTM is only going to be out a few games, unless they know something else to keep him out longer? Plus, getting a top 6 guy now, he'd have to quarantine for two weeks, and Miller would be ready by then (unless it's from a Canadian team).

Would really force things around when JTM returns, too.

- NewYorkNuck

They should let Hoglander show first.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 13 @ 3:57 PM ET
Fuck that guy

But also, why a top 6 guy? JTM is only going to be out a few games, unless they know something else to keep him out longer? Plus, getting a top 6 guy now, he'd have to quarantine for two weeks, and Miller would be ready by then (unless it's from a Canadian team).

Would really force things around when JTM returns, too.

- NewYorkNuck

We need a top 6 guy: this won’t be the first time we lose a player to covid or injury. Having Virtanen in your top 6 is just (frank)ing awful
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 13 @ 3:57 PM ET
They should let Hoglander show first.
- manvanfan


Ya, I think the rumors are pretty bogus.

Unless they're really trying to upgrade one of the guys they already have (JV, Pearson), I don't see why they would be trying to make a trade the first week of the season.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 13 @ 3:59 PM ET
We need a top 6 guy: this won’t be the first time we lose a player to covid or injury. Having Virtanen in your top 6 is just (frank)ing awful
- CanuckDon


How many excess top 6 guys are there, though? I'm sure other teams are going to go through the same Covid things, so why would they ship out a top 6 guy at the start of the year?

It would also really screw up the cap if they're all on the roster at the same point.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
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Jan 13 @ 4:01 PM ET
How many excess top 6 guys are there, though? I'm sure other teams are going to go through the same Covid things, so why would they ship out a top 6 guy at the start of the year?

It would also really screw up the cap if they're all on the roster at the same point.

- NewYorkNuck

I didn’t say it will happen. I’m saying we need a top 6 winger. We don’t have enough depth. But it won’t happen and dreger is an idiot
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 13 @ 4:02 PM ET
Golden Knights opening roster 13 F / 5 D
- VANTEL

I'm also puzzled by this.

Even if you want a 5 man rotation, wouldn't it make more sense to dress 6 and just nail one guy's butt to the bench?

Are you really going to use 13 forwards?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe
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Jan 13 @ 4:06 PM ET
Fuck that guy

But also, why a top 6 guy? JTM is only going to be out a few games, unless they know something else to keep him out longer? Plus, getting a top 6 guy now, he'd have to quarantine for two weeks, and Miller would be ready by then (unless it's from a Canadian team).

Would really force things around when JTM returns, too.

- NewYorkNuck

Federal government exempted guys from having to do a 14-day quarantine, prior to training camps.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...ption-nhl-training-camps/

I'm wondering if they have plans to also do so for trades - though I haven't seen any statements one way or the other.

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 13 @ 4:06 PM ET
I'm also puzzled by this.

Even if you want a 5 man rotation, wouldn't it make more sense to dress 6 and just nail one guy's butt to the bench?

Are you really going to use 13 forwards?

- Atomic Wedgie


They only have Nick Holden in the reserve tank , They are really thin and screwed

They will probably claim a D today
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #narrativetown, USA
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 13 @ 4:10 PM ET
Thx Carol.

Hockey hopefully every Saturday night for the next 6 months...

Let's get it on!!

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 13 @ 4:11 PM ET
Here is how salary gets calculated. Anytime you refer to capfriendly, remember that is a projection with everything being status quo.

The daily cap hit of a team's roster changes on a day-to-day basis depending on who is on the roster. This is why team cap hit and cap space figures are often reported as "projected" values.


A player's daily cap hit is calculated by taking their actual cap hit, and dividing it by the number of days in the regular season. By the end of the year, the sum of those daily cap hits can not exceed the upper limit of $81.5 million.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
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Joined: 05.30.2016

Jan 13 @ 4:11 PM ET
Yes it is, and there is an obvious reason for this. 👋
- Makita

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jan 13 @ 4:11 PM ET
How many excess top 6 guys are there, though? I'm sure other teams are going to go through the same Covid things, so why would they ship out a top 6 guy at the start of the year?

It would also really screw up the cap if they're all on the roster at the same point.

- NewYorkNuck

People thoughts of what top 6 guys are supposed to be seem to start and end with generational to elite forwards only. There isn't nearly that many elite players in the league.

Last season a half a PPG player would be considered a top 6 forward in scoring. That's a 40 point forward. People thinking that all 6 of your teams forwards is going to score 60 point each is fantasy. There was only I think 4 teams that had all 6 players score over .53 ppg last season.

I think TB was the highest with Palat scoring at .59 for their 6th forward.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 13 @ 4:13 PM ET
They only have Nick Holden in the reserve tank , They are really thin and screwed

They will probably claim a D today

- VANTEL


Hague and Coghlan are also on taxi-squad.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 13 @ 4:15 PM ET
People thoughts of what top 6 guys are supposed to be seem to start and end with generational to elite forwards only. There isn't nearly that many elite players in the league.

Last season a half a PPG player would be considered a top 6 forward in scoring. That's a 40 point forward. People thinking that all 6 of your teams forwards is going to score 60 point each is fantasy. There was only I think 4 teams that had all 6 players score over .53 ppg last season.

I think TB was the highest with Palat scoring at .59 for their 6th forward.

- manvanfan

Agreed.

For most teams, you really have four top forwards, and two guys to play with them.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 13 @ 4:16 PM ET
Hague and Coghlan are also on taxi-squad.
- Reubenkincade


Hague does have a little experience , I guess so. Coghlan I don't know of.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 13 @ 4:17 PM ET
People thoughts of what top 6 guys are supposed to be seem to start and end with generational to elite forwards only. There isn't nearly that many elite players in the league.

Last season a half a PPG player would be considered a top 6 forward in scoring. That's a 40 point forward. People thinking that all 6 of your teams forwards is going to score 60 point each is fantasy. There was only I think 4 teams that had all 6 players score over .53 ppg last season.

I think TB was the highest with Palat scoring at .59 for their 6th forward.

- manvanfan


Canucks had 2 of their 3rd line guys, Jake and Gaudette, scoring at over .5 ppg, as well as Leivo.
Canucks don't need another top 6, just better bottom guys, who are versatile.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 13 @ 4:19 PM ET
Hague does have a little experience , I guess so. Coghlan I don't know of.
- VANTEL


With that defense, I am sure they can get Hague some experience even if it is sheltered minutes.

I don't know much about Coghlan either, I think his 1st name is Dylan.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 13 @ 4:24 PM ET
Canucks had 2 of their 3rd line guys, Jake and Gaudette, scoring at over .5 ppg, as well as Leivo.
Canucks don't need another top 6, just better bottom guys, who are versatile.

- Reubenkincade


I sort of agree with Don . This is going to be a crazy year it doesn't hurt to have a better back up than Jake
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 13 @ 4:28 PM ET
I sort of agree with Don . This is going to be a crazy year it doesn't hurt to have a better back up than Jake
- VANTEL


Like a Joe Thornton or a Corey Perry?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 13 @ 4:34 PM ET
Like a Joe Thornton or a Corey Perry?
- Reubenkincade



Alex Tuch would be nice
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jan 13 @ 4:38 PM ET
People thoughts of what top 6 guys are supposed to be seem to start and end with generational to elite forwards only. There isn't nearly that many elite players in the league.

Last season a half a PPG player would be considered a top 6 forward in scoring. That's a 40 point forward. People thinking that all 6 of your teams forwards is going to score 60 point each is fantasy. There was only I think 4 teams that had all 6 players score over .53 ppg last season.

I think TB was the highest with Palat scoring at .59 for their 6th forward.

- manvanfan

Good post.

People may not like it, but JV is essentially a top 6 forward by most standards, poopty hockey IQ and all
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jan 13 @ 4:40 PM ET
Alex Tuch would be nice
- VANTEL


I think with the cap problems that creates now and into the future, and with Podkolzin coming over at some point, the Canucks won't really trade for a big name during the season.

Unless they can offload someone in the trade, or fingers crossed Loui or Sven don't want to go to Utica...
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 13 @ 4:45 PM ET
I think with the cap problems that creates now and into the future, and with Podkolzin coming over at some point, the Canucks won't really trade for a big name during the season.

Unless they can offload someone in the trade, or fingers crossed Loui or Sven don't want to go to Utica...

- NewYorkNuck


Are you suggesting an MTA?
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