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Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jan 22 @ 11:09 AM ET
Eklund: Pierre-Luc Dubois’ Horrible Shift. Should this be the end? NJ Deal? Buzz@1
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jan 22 @ 11:12 AM ET
I'm sure we can make a better offer than Zacha and Butcher !
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jan 22 @ 11:12 AM ET
That kid should be embarrassed, entitled little puke. He quit on his teammates, that's unacceptable! They need to have a closed door meeting and tell him if he's not with them, he's against them.

You don't see Patrick Laine lollygagging around out there, he's scoring, sticking up for his teammates....PLD should give his salary back if he's not going to try.
CameronJ9
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 05.12.2017

Jan 22 @ 11:15 AM ET
I think they should probably move on from Torts. He is successful as a coach in terms of a record but its obvious guys don't want to play for the tyrant (See Panarin, Bobrovsky, Duchene and now Dubois). Its the old saying - if you think everyone else is the problem then maybe its you.
Crushers68
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Joined: 02.17.2009

Jan 22 @ 11:16 AM ET
I’d make that trade if I’m the NJ GM......ONLY IF, PLD wants to play in NJ. Which begs the question, why would he want to play in NJ as we’re rebuilding?
Crushers68
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Joined: 02.17.2009

Jan 22 @ 11:17 AM ET
I think they should probably move on from Torts. He is successful as a coach in terms of a record but its obvious guys don't want to play for the tyrant (See Panarin, Bobrovsky, Duchene and now Dubois). Its the old saying - if you think everyone else is the problem then maybe its you.
- CameronJ9


Disagree, Torts is a top coach in my opinion
Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Jan 22 @ 11:19 AM ET
Ek it would be great if you could post a video of other bad shifts and kinda walk us through what's happening on the ice. That would be pretty enlightening. Just an idea for you.

Zacha and Butcher have close to zero value. So when you say draft picks you hopefully mean an unprotected 1st as a starting point. Maybe a 3-way with Gaudreau or JVR + Ghost?
ryanzlakings
Los Angeles Kings
Location: San diego, CA
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jan 22 @ 11:19 AM ET
They way he showed on playing the ice, just shows what type of a player he is. Even he does get traded, what makes him not doing the same thing to them because he isn't happy. Too much red flags for me no matter how good he is.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jan 22 @ 11:20 AM ET
I'm sure we can make a better offer than Zacha and Butcher !
- Xizord


I think a lot of teams could
CameronJ9
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 05.12.2017

Jan 22 @ 11:22 AM ET
Disagree, Torts is a top coach in my opinion
- Crushers68


No one is disagreeing that he is a great coach but I hope the GM is in on these exit meetings because there seems to be a trend.
BernardShakey
Joined: 08.16.2016

Jan 22 @ 11:22 AM ET
Trade him to Toronto for Tavares
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 22 @ 11:25 AM ET
No one is disagreeing that he is a great coach but I hope the GM is in on these exit meetings because there seems to be a trend.
- CameronJ9

what trend, a rental player didn't want to stick around and 2 UFA's wanted to cash in for more then 10 mil a year elsewhere?

it's a small market team that's why those 3 left for more money


as for dubois, he wanted out before the season, and torts is a demanding coach

some players love to put in the work, others don't


Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 22 @ 11:26 AM ET
Meh, not that bad. Come watch a Leaf game. 🤣
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Jan 22 @ 11:30 AM ET
JonnyGar
New Jersey Devils
Location: Sussex, NJ
Joined: 08.13.2016

Jan 22 @ 11:38 AM ET
As a Devils Fan I would want that trade as well, only if he agrees to extend. There may be something about Torts that we aren't hearing about. Great Coach - Gets the most out of his players - but why do so many want to run away from him? Bob, Breadman....I do see a pattern here. All Top quality players that have established the Bluecoats as contenders year in and year out, but still want out. Not many players want to leave a winning team.
HolyDiver83
New York Islanders
Location: UBS Arena, NY
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 22 @ 11:39 AM ET
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Jan 22 @ 11:39 AM ET
PLD will not perform for NJ. He wants to go to Montreal, but Montreal cannot afford to wait for 2-3 wks to get him in the line-up. But if they could get away from giving up Kotkaniemi or Suzuki this might work:
Danault + Armia + Poehling + a 2nd for PLD
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Jan 22 @ 11:41 AM ET
I think a lot of teams could
- obie


Including NJ. Hope our GM goes after this.
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Jan 22 @ 11:42 AM ET
That was a bad shift - especially toward the end when he really didn't even attempt to play the puck OR the man.

Is this an outlier shift though? Or is he regularly like this when on the ice.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jan 22 @ 11:44 AM ET
Ek it would be great if you could post a video of other bad shifts and kinda walk us through what's happening on the ice. That would be pretty enlightening. Just an idea for you.

Zacha and Butcher have close to zero value. So when you say draft picks you hopefully mean an unprotected 1st as a starting point. Maybe a 3-way with Gaudreau or JVR + Ghost?

- Kooleus

Lol this would be entertaining for sure!
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Jan 22 @ 11:44 AM ET
As a Devils Fan I would want that trade as well, only if he agrees to extend. There may be something about Torts that we aren't hearing about. Great Coach - Gets the most out of his players - but why do so many want to run away from him? Bob, Breadman....I do see a pattern here. All Top quality players that have established the Bluecoats as contenders year in and year out, but still want out. Not many players want to leave a winning team.
- JonnyGar

Bob and Breadman wanted a big market team and $10M+ AAV. And frankly, CBJ do not miss Bob! Duchene under performed there. Yeah they should have gotten something for them, but on paper that was a Stanley Cup contender.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jan 22 @ 11:45 AM ET
PLD for Elias Peterson.

Canucks look awful and EP has been a big part of the issue. Not sure if he’s hiding an injury or what?
CameronJ9
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 05.12.2017

Jan 22 @ 11:47 AM ET
what trend, a rental player didn't want to stick around and 2 UFA's wanted to cash in for more then 10 mil a year elsewhere?

it's a small market team that's why those 3 left for more money


as for dubois, he wanted out before the season, and torts is a demanding coach

some players love to put in the work, others don't

- homiedclown


Its definitely an older style of coaching... Its fading fast (See Babcock in Toronto). Players were a little tougher mentally back in the day. The league isn't as tough as it used to be and the newer generations are a little bit softer. Some players... mainly the older ones still respond to that style of coaching. But I can personally say from my Junior and College hockey days that there some players respond well and some really don't to the old tyrant snapshow coaching. As time progresses there will be more in the second category.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 22 @ 11:51 AM ET
Dubois to Detroit maybe?

DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Jan 22 @ 11:51 AM ET
If the CBL players are with Torts on this issue PLD should be sent home and moved ASAP.
If the players side with PLD then its likely time for Torts to go.
My guess is PLD will go.
I hope the Flames are not in on him after watching that shift and body language last night!
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