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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jan 24 @ 11:28 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Mike Sullivan trying to spread the wealth with the new combos Mike Sullivan trying to spread the wealth with the new combos
stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

Jan 24 @ 11:46 AM ET
I think Tanev proving to be well worth is contract is impossible for RW to accept.
MaxHyjinx
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 03.03.2018

Jan 24 @ 11:50 AM ET
I think Tanev proving to be well worth is contract is impossible for RW to accept.
- stackthepads


I agree 100%. Tanev has been one of the Pens best forwards to start the season. He doesn’t take shifts off and always looks like the fastest skater while he’s on the ice.

Hopefully RW will start giving credit where credit’s due and worry less about his contract and more about his performance.
Leafs1aPens1b
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 09.10.2017

Jan 24 @ 12:45 PM ET
I don't like Rodriguez on 1st line. Thought he was particularly shiddy last game vs NYR. Are they just waiting for Kappy to get in "game shape" or something?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 24 @ 1:06 PM ET
It just makes so much more sense to me to let Tanev be Kap's placeholder on the 1st line than Rod.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 24 @ 1:09 PM ET
JJ scratched tonight for the Rangers.
Dr Blob
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 09.30.2018

Jan 24 @ 1:21 PM ET
JJ scratched tonight for the Rangers.
- Rinosaur

And RW didn’t mention this? How could that be? Don’t tell me he’s buried the hatchet! Say it ain’t so.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 24 @ 1:29 PM ET
Food for thought

668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 24 @ 1:39 PM ET
I think Tanev proving to be well worth is contract is impossible for RW to accept.
- stackthepads

He should be in the top 9 and Rod on the fourth, it's ridiculous.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 24 @ 1:41 PM ET
Food for thought


- j.boyd919

What I'm seeing here is Guentz is struggling right now.
alejandrososa
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 08.11.2020

Jan 24 @ 2:49 PM ET
ffs i get so angry when i see the name rodrigues anywhere in the lineup. especially on sids wing
i'mjustafan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 05.15.2007

Jan 24 @ 3:11 PM ET
what about a top six like:

kap-sid-zucker
jake-geno-rust

Did they really give up a 1st round pick for zucker for him to play bottom 6 minutes? Rutherford is like oprah: "you get a 1st, you get a 1st"

I just dont get the mccann thing. the guy scored his first goal on friday since last january and was not hurt last year. Why $3M per year for 2 years? He is great some games and then some games i am not even sure he dressed.

TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 24 @ 3:24 PM ET
RW wants to piss and moan about the "overpaid 4th line" which also doubles as the PKers. Fact is Tanev is the guy taking that line from one I'd be concerned about (if it was ERod in place of Tavev) to one I think that can tread water and the top 3 lines can focus on 5v5 play and PP time
Jackie Daytona
Joined: 10.09.2020

Jan 24 @ 3:49 PM ET
Are they just waiting for Kappy to get in "game shape" or something



"Despite his lineage and ability to skate like the wind his stunted IQ and utter lack of awareness will render him infuriating and uncoachable"

While this quote likely explains why he will be a career 3rd/4th line player, it is likely a review of his NHL career to date which explains why Sid has made it clear he will not play with the Kappy.

Unfortunately Kapanen is a Michael Grabner clone, he skates fast and will score on the occasional break away, but his pass completion rare has been the worst in the league, measuring as low as 9%. I suspect Malkin will also refuse to play with the turn-over machine.

It is shocking that Rutherford paid such a high-price for a low value asset, especially considering he had already once rid himself of the Kapanen menace. Eventually the time comes when even good GMs fail.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Jan 24 @ 3:59 PM ET
I had to read that twice, Blueger FINALLY getting some love. I just hope he gets a couple games to show he belongs there and not a couple shifts.
PENS1989
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.05.2019

Jan 24 @ 4:18 PM ET
"Despite his lineage and ability to skate like the wind his stunted IQ and utter lack of awareness will render him infuriating and uncoachable"

While this quote likely explains why he will be a career 3rd/4th line player, it is likely a review of his NHL career to date which explains why Sid has made it clear he will not play with the Kappy.

Unfortunately Kapanen is a Michael Grabner clone, he skates fast and will score on the occasional break away, but his pass completion rare has been the worst in the league, measuring as low as 9%. I suspect Malkin will also refuse to play with the turn-over machine.

It is shocking that Rutherford paid such a high-price for a low value asset, especially considering he had already once rid himself of the Kapanen menace. Eventually the time comes when even good GMs fail.

- Jackie Daytona[/quoteKahane?

Did Crosby say he did not want to play with Kapanen?
pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: BC
Joined: 10.01.2013

Jan 24 @ 4:25 PM ET
I like these lines if tanev and rod switched. I didn’t like tanevs contract when it was signed but many many many nights he’s easily the most noticeable player for the pens for reasons the pens desperately need.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 24 @ 4:34 PM ET
I like these lines if tanev and rod switched. I didn’t like tanevs contract when it was signed but many many many nights he’s easily the most noticeable player for the pens for reasons the pens desperately need.
- pens4life-66

Tanev is a good player but I think a lot of people are overestimating what he’d bring to a top 6 line. He’s an energy guy playing real well on some defensive lines. I do think spot shifting him with Crosby or Malkin in the middle of games that he’s playing particularly well could be a good idea, but having him play out games with Crosby I don’t think will lead to good results.

And since I know someone is going to respond with “bUt RoDrIgUeS”, this isn’t me defending having Rodrigues on the first line. He’s a 13th forward and it’s indefensible to keep him glued to that line. But the way to take Rodrigues off the top line is to stop (frank)ing about and put Kapanen up there, or if you’re really worried about his conditioning/system familiarity, put McCann up there until he’s ready.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 24 @ 4:40 PM ET
Giddy up its game day. ERod sticks to the 1st line haha unreal. Before the season started I was saying I saw glimpses of things in his game last season that made me want to see him on the 1st line with Sid for a bit. He hasn't shown me enough there since the season started and there's better options. I would say it's a case of the coach not wanting to F with things because they're winning... but he blended every other line haha. Sully gonna Sully.
iworkatinitech
Joined: 11.12.2014

Jan 24 @ 4:43 PM ET
At this rate I’d rather see O’conner on Sid’s wing. Rod should be 13th F on this team.

The Zucker trade still baffles me, I’d be fine trading him but you can’t if he’s being demoted to the third.

I’m glad blueger is getting recognition and I’m confused with Kap not up in the top 6...

Sully confuses me
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 24 @ 4:46 PM ET
That 3rd line does have some potential though, all the same.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Jan 24 @ 5:01 PM ET
"Despite his lineage and ability to skate like the wind his stunted IQ and utter lack of awareness will render him infuriating and uncoachable"

While this quote likely explains why he will be a career 3rd/4th line player, it is likely a review of his NHL career to date which explains why Sid has made it clear he will not play with the Kappy.

Unfortunately Kapanen is a Michael Grabner clone, he skates fast and will score on the occasional break away, but his pass completion rare has been the worst in the league, measuring as low as 9%. I suspect Malkin will also refuse to play with the turn-over machine.

It is shocking that Rutherford paid such a high-price for a low value asset, especially considering he had already once rid himself of the Kapanen menace. Eventually the time comes when even good GMs fail.

- Jackie Daytona


Don't come on here and tell us about third or forth line players when you guys cut, you read that right CUT, the guy who is now our top line right wing. ERod is one of the team leaders in ice time, he already has a goal, his play just won't allow him to be demoted. And you guys cut him.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 24 @ 5:03 PM ET
Don't come on here and tell us about third or forth line players when you guys cut, you read that right CUT, the guy who is now our top line right wing. ERod is one of the team leaders in ice time, he already has a goal, his play just won't allow him to be demoted. And you guys cut him.
- Thunderbolt

Lol
pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: BC
Joined: 10.01.2013

Jan 24 @ 5:07 PM ET
Tanev is a good player but I think a lot of people are overestimating what he’d bring to a top 6 line. He’s an energy guy playing real well on some defensive lines. I do think spot shifting him with Crosby or Malkin in the middle of games that he’s playing particularly well could be a good idea, but having him play out games with Crosby I don’t think will lead to good results.

And since I know someone is going to respond with “bUt RoDrIgUeS”, this isn’t me defending having Rodrigues on the first line. He’s a 13th forward and it’s indefensible to keep him glued to that line. But the way to take Rodrigues off the top line is to stop (frank)ing about and put Kapanen up there, or if you’re really worried about his conditioning/system familiarity, put McCann up there until he’s ready.

- Victoro311


By no means do I think Tanev is a legit top 6 player. I think Crosby and guentzel are though and I think they can score enough. I want a dupuis type with those 2. Someone who will be the first in on the forecheck 99.5% of the time that isn’t scared to go get the puck and take the hit to make the play for sid and G. He’s willing and able to grind with Sid down low and is willing to head to the net constantly to create space for the other 2.
Definitely Kap would make the 1st line more potent but would also make that 3rd line more of a checking line without him there.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Jan 24 @ 5:08 PM ET
At this rate I’d rather see O’conner on Sid’s wing. Rod should be 13th F on this team.

The Zucker trade still baffles me, I’d be fine trading him but you can’t if he’s being demoted to the third.

I’m glad blueger is getting recognition and I’m confused with Kap not up in the top 6...

Sully confuses me

- iworkatinitech


I wonder if they are rewarding Blueger. He is playing out of his mind with Kap right now, if Zucker can find his touch. That line could be extremely dangerous which would give us 3 scoring lines, and 1 shutdown/defensive responsible line.
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