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668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 24 @ 10:08 PM ET
I dont know what people expect, we're a waning team, making the playoffs is a good season for us, once in who knows, Sid gets hot and can win a series, Malkin can do the same, get hot goaltending and youre gonna do well
- stackthepads

Basically that's it. All I want. They won three cups went to 4 finals. I'm happy with everything they've done.
stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

Jan 24 @ 10:12 PM ET
People expect that the GM will exercise good asset management. That hasn't happened.
- Rinosaur



I disagree, I think JR is doing a good job trying to squeeze that few drops out of the Sid/Geno era.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 24 @ 10:13 PM ET
People expect that the GM will exercise good asset management. That hasn't happened.
- Rinosaur

Yea that's what has sucked.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 24 @ 10:15 PM ET
I disagree, I think JR is doing a good job trying to squeeze that few drops out of the Sid/Geno era.
- stackthepads

Ehh I still hate the Matheson trade. With Rikki and POJ there it seemed really...dumb..
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 24 @ 10:15 PM ET
I disagree, I think JR is doing a good job trying to squeeze that few drops out of the Sid/Geno era.
- stackthepads

Plus he should fire Sully.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jan 24 @ 10:16 PM ET
Want to say, easily Jarry's best game this season. Hope he can build off it.
stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

Jan 24 @ 10:18 PM ET
Ehh I still hate the Matheson trade. With Rikki and POJ there it seemed really...dumb..
- 668710



I dont really like that trade either, Im a hornqvist fan but I understand why he made it. MM is a great skater, can shoot, there is potential for something there. Too bad he got injured right away and we didnt get a chance to see.


668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 24 @ 10:19 PM ET
Man I wish you didn't make that comparison...
- Tojo.

The Steelers actually played good the first 5 games then the offense dipped(run game) and they still were winning because Ben was still throwing well and th defense wasn't tired. Then with lower possession time because of zero run game the defense wore out and also got injured. The Pens haven't played good yet and have already taken injuries and are somehow winning. Get it together and we can be a good team.
stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

Jan 24 @ 10:19 PM ET
Plus he should fire Sully.
- 668710


I've been tooting this horn for 2 years now but I dont think its happening. Ownership is not paying another coach
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 24 @ 10:20 PM ET
Want to say, easily Jarry's best game this season. Hope he can build off it.
- Tojo.

Yes, hopefully he will. Honestly both Jarry and Desmith have been dealing with some bullpoop plays because the skaters are acting like boneheads.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 24 @ 10:22 PM ET
I dont really like that trade either, Im a hornqvist fan but I understand why he made it. MM is a great skater, can shoot, there is potential for something there. Too bad he got injured right away and we didnt get a chance to see.
- stackthepads

Right, let's say Matheson does pan out, now JR has to make another trade because we have a log jam. It's like he makes trades to set himself up to make another and another and another... domino's lol. I can be the EK for the pens lol
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 24 @ 10:25 PM ET
I've been tooting this horn for 2 years now but I dont think its happening. Ownership is not paying another coach
- stackthepads

Yea true, with revenue down its very unlikely. #CanSullyNow
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Jan 24 @ 10:38 PM ET
Yea they def will make that play in the off-season. They are young and need to learn how to protect a lead. Pens will make the PO this year.
- nyrangers2

I think Strome is a legit 2C. I hate the Rags but fear them the most in the next 10 years or so. My only hope is that Panarin and Kreider decline and their contracts become albatrosses and maybe Shesterkin doesn't develop as it looks like he will. Otherwise, I think they dominate. Just too much talent and too many good young players who will be on cheap contracts. TBL, BOS, WAS, and PIT (and even PHI) are all about to age out.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 24 @ 10:45 PM ET
The Steelers actually played good the first 5 games then the offense dipped(run game) and they still were winning because Ben was still throwing well and th defense wasn't tired. Then with lower possession time because of zero run game the defense wore out and also got injured. The Pens haven't played good yet and have already taken injuries and are somehow winning. Get it together and we can be a good team.
- 668710


I mean, the Steelers played one complete game all season (first Browns game). They mostly played 30 minutes games. Eventually that catches up to you. Honestly, I thought the Rags were the better team again tonight. Most of it anyway. They shanked at least 5 wide open shots. The last one with 5 seconds left.

Obviously plenty of time to correct things. I'm confident several of our players will get better.

668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 24 @ 10:48 PM ET
I mean, the Steelers played one complete game all season (first Browns game). They mostly played 30 minutes games. Eventually that catches up to you. Honestly, I thought the Rags were the better team again tonight. Most of it anyway. They shanked at least 5 wide open shots. The last one with 5 seconds left.

Obviously plenty of time to correct things. I'm confident several of our players will get better.

- madmike71

Geno can't get any worse. Probably one of the worst games I've ever seen him play.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jan 24 @ 10:55 PM ET
I think Strome is a legit 2C. I hate the Rags but fear them the most in the next 10 years or so. My only hope is that Panarin and Kreider decline and their contracts become albatrosses and maybe Shesterkin doesn't develop as it looks like he will. Otherwise, I think they dominate. Just too much talent and too many good young players who will be on cheap contracts. TBL, BOS, WAS, and PIT (and even PHI) are all about to age out.
- Hockey66

Carolina will have a lot to say though.

Philly is hard to tell. They have a lot of young talent that should improve, but they also have a lot of guys starting to age out. I'm not sure where that leaves them as far as building towards a Cup contender.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Jan 24 @ 11:02 PM ET
Carolina will have a lot to say though.

Philly is hard to tell. They have a lot of young talent that should improve, but they also have a lot of guys starting to age out. I'm not sure where that leaves them as far as building towards a Cup contender.

- Tojo.

Good point about CAR, but they don't have a goalie and I don't think their young talent is on the level of NYR overall (or just the sheer number). NYR is loaded. Who knows, maybe they'll all command big contracts around the same time before they win a Cup.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 25 @ 6:46 AM ET
Good point about CAR, but they don't have a goalie and I don't think their young talent is on the level of NYR overall (or just the sheer number). NYR is loaded. Who knows, maybe they'll all command big contracts around the same time before they win a Cup.
- Hockey66

Carolina really does need to look into getting a goalie.
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jan 25 @ 7:50 AM ET
Good point about CAR, but they don't have a goalie and I don't think their young talent is on the level of NYR overall (or just the sheer number). NYR is loaded. Who knows, maybe they'll all command big contracts around the same time before they win a Cup.
- Hockey66


Rangers will end up moving strome and Tony d along with a winger for a legit 2c in offseason. Carolina is def up there. They also have a better system and coach. Quinn isn’t the long term answer
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 25 @ 8:25 AM ET
I disagree, I think JR is doing a good job trying to squeeze that few drops out of the Sid/Geno era.
- stackthepads

By gassing assets and cap space on bad players that he needs to get rid of after a year or two? Come on man. JR has been off since 2018.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 25 @ 8:26 AM ET
Rangers will end up moving strome and Tony d along with a winger for a legit 2c in offseason. Carolina is def up there. They also have a better system and coach. Quinn isn’t the long term answer
- nyrangers2

They are trying, the Rags were trying to get Dubois.
wsldck
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 09.03.2020

Jan 25 @ 8:30 AM ET
I've been tooting this horn for 2 years now but I dont think its happening. Ownership is not paying another coach
- stackthepads


Do you get a new contract if you go from assistant coach to head coach? Have to think it would be velluci or reirdon. I’d think it’s more that ownership is sticking w/ jr, and jr is sticking w/ sully.
Glad reirdon is back, but don’t think I want him as the head coach. I don’t really know much about velluci tho, other than people seem to hold him in high regard. Did he win ahl championship or something?
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Jan 25 @ 8:42 AM ET
Do you get a new contract if you go from assistant coach to head coach? Have to think it would be velluci or reirdon. I’d think it’s more that ownership is sticking w/ jr, and jr is sticking w/ sully.
Glad reirdon is back, but don’t think I want him as the head coach. I don’t really know much about velluci tho, other than people seem to hold him in high regard. Did he win ahl championship or something?

- wsldck


Sullivan is in the first year of a four year contract, he's not going anywhere. It doesn't even matter what contract Rutherford has, he can be placed into other positions in the organization as opposed to being canned. If a move is going to made it will be GMJR rather than HCMS.

Rutherford is signed thru 21-22.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 25 @ 9:29 AM ET
I disagree, I think JR is doing a good job trying to squeeze that few drops out of the Sid/Geno era.
- stackthepads


The Pens had Dumo, Pettersson, Riikola and POJ on the left side. While POJ was an unknown, how was trading for another LD on a huge immovable contract to play the third pair wise asset management? Even if he envisions Matheson as a 2nd pairing LD, he didn’t need one even a little.

This trade had a major negative trickle down effect on the Pens bottom six.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 25 @ 9:36 AM ET
Right, let's say Matheson does pan out, now JR has to make another trade because we have a log jam. It's like he makes trades to set himself up to make another and another and another... domino's lol. I can be the EK for the pens lol
- 668710


This is it. Waiting another season or two to see if Matheson works or not? No time to fix this one. That contract can’t be moved and buying it out would be a disaster.
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