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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 25 @ 1:04 PM ET
Geno was real bad last night. Obviously it's one game, but yea he was basically turning the puck over every time. He'll be ok though.
- 668710



Really? He was only credited with one giveaway the whole game.

Although I did miss last nights game, so he may have been rough, statistically it wasn't his best either.

10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 25 @ 1:06 PM ET
It sucks, and certainly isnt ideal, but someone has to be on their off side on D right now. When I think of the candidates I think Marino, with his skating, smarts and way he can maneuver his body, is the best out of him, Ceci, Joseph or Rudy to do so.
- MattStrat


I get that. Like any industry you rely on the best guy to compensate elsewhere and that’s why Marino is tasked with playing his offside. But he is also struggling and may not be up to it.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Jan 25 @ 1:06 PM ET
It sucks, and certainly isnt ideal, but someone has to be on their off side on D right now. When I think of the candidates I think Marino, with his skating, smarts and way he can maneuver his body, is the best out of him, Ceci, Joseph or Rudy to do so.
- MattStrat

I would go with:

Dumo - Letang
POJ - Marino
Czuczman - Ruh

until one of the other LDs is back. See if POJ - Marino is a thing. Imagine that going foward!
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 25 @ 1:07 PM ET
It sucks, and certainly isnt ideal, but someone has to be on their off side on D right now. When I think of the candidates I think Marino, with his skating, smarts and way he can maneuver his body, is the best out of him, Ceci, Joseph or Rudy to do so.
- MattStrat

I'd put Ruh on his offside. He barely does anything anyways. He's just solid. Let Marino make the plays and be on his correct side. Don't neuter the star player.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 25 @ 1:08 PM ET
Vince Z. Mercogliano
@vzmercogliano
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7m
Looks like three #NYR 2020 draft picks will start the season with AHL Hartford while waiting for their junior league seasons to begin- D Braden Schneider, F Will Cuylle and G Dylan Garand



This means that Légaré and Poulin can play in the Ahl until the CHL starts and doesn’t affect their contracts as it’s an emergency basis kind of thing. I know I mentioned this before but hadn’t heard anything other than some Canadian beat reporters. So it looks like this ahl thing will be a go.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 25 @ 1:08 PM ET
Really? He was only credited with one giveaway the whole game.

Although I did miss last nights game, so he may have been rough, statistically it wasn't his best either.


- j.boyd919

Yea that turnover stat is not correct. Now I'm not gonna poop on Geno because he'll bounce back, but yea last night was rough.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 25 @ 1:10 PM ET
I get that. Like any industry you rely on the best guy to compensate elsewhere and that’s why Marino is tasked with playing his offside. But he is also struggling and may not be up to it.
- 10inchTerror



Yeah, he may not be. I dont think Sully cares that much if they're winning.

I guess they could always scratch Ceci for Kevin Cuuz and go:

Dumo-Tang
PO Joe-Marino
Cuuz-Rudy

Then everyone is on their right side. The rookie gets top 4 mins then though, might be a disaster, might not. He's had a few blunders but otherwise has been pretty damn solid for his first two NHL games.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 25 @ 1:10 PM ET
Vince Z. Mercogliano
@vzmercogliano
·
7m
Looks like three #NYR 2020 draft picks will start the season with AHL Hartford while waiting for their junior league seasons to begin- D Braden Schneider, F Will Cuylle and G Dylan Garand


This means that Légaré and Poulin can play in the Ahl until the CHL starts and doesn’t affect their contracts as it’s an emergency basis kind of thing. I know I mentioned this before but hadn’t heard anything other than some Canadian beat reporters. So it looks like this ahl thing will be a go.

- 10inchTerror

Thanks for sharing, good news. See what Poulin and Legare can do in the A.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Jan 25 @ 1:11 PM ET
Really? He was only credited with one giveaway the whole game.

Although I did miss last nights game, so he may have been rough, statistically it wasn't his best either.


- j.boyd919

To me it looked like he was falling back into his habit of trying to do too much by himself in order to get out of a funk. He is one of the best in the game at shielding the puck and maintaining possession, though. Just not connecting with his linemates at the moment. NYR played a pretty good game, too.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 25 @ 1:11 PM ET
Vince Z. Mercogliano
@vzmercogliano
·
7m
Looks like three #NYR 2020 draft picks will start the season with AHL Hartford while waiting for their junior league seasons to begin- D Braden Schneider, F Will Cuylle and G Dylan Garand



This means that Légaré and Poulin can play in the Ahl until the CHL starts and doesn’t affect their contracts as it’s an emergency basis kind of thing. I know I mentioned this before but hadn’t heard anything other than some Canadian beat reporters. So it looks like this ahl thing will be a go.

- 10inchTerror


Thats awesome.
MaxHyjinx
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 03.03.2018

Jan 25 @ 1:11 PM ET
I would go with:

Dumo - Letang
POJ - Marino
Czuczman - Ruh

until one of the other LDs is back. See if POJ - Marino is a thing. Imagine that going foward!

- Hockey66


Now this setup I could get behind. Honestly I’d even try Czuczman with Marino if it meant not playing Ceci at this point. Another boneheaded penalty along with his less than stellar play should be enough reason to give Czuczman a shot on the bottom pairing while Ceci sits. POJ certainly looks capable of being able to tread water on a second pairing as well.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Jan 25 @ 1:13 PM ET
Now this setup I could get behind. Honestly I’d even try Czuczman with Marino if it meant not playing Ceci at this point. Another boneheaded penalty along with his less than stellar play should be enough reason to give Czuczman a shot on the bottom pairing while Ceci sits. POJ certainly looks capable of being able to tread water on a second pairing as well.
- MaxHyjinx

Yeah, and it was Ceci's mark that scored both goals, too. He really is JJ 2.0. Time to cut bait on him.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Washington, DC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 25 @ 1:13 PM ET
Really? He was only credited with one giveaway the whole game.

Although I did miss last nights game, so he may have been rough, statistically it wasn't his best either.


- j.boyd919

The portions I watched he truly looks slow and struggling out there. How much of that is not having a real off season and how much of that is aging curve, I don’t know, but it’s concerning regardless.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 25 @ 1:20 PM ET
I would go with:

Dumo - Letang
POJ - Marino
Czuczman - Ruh

until one of the other LDs is back. See if POJ - Marino is a thing. Imagine that going foward!

- Hockey66


hahah I didnt see this before I made a pretty much identical post...if I had I wouldn't of made a pretty much identical post haha
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 25 @ 1:29 PM ET
With regards to Geno, he had one of this best statistical seasons last season averaging 1.34 points per game. I just don't see it being a steep age curve only 10 months later, when he finished off last March with 11 points in 5 games. I see it in his face, his head (confidence) is a little shot, like it has been many times before.

We have to expect his production to start dropping...but not to 0.33 points per game this quick.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 25 @ 1:38 PM ET
I hope I didnt just jinx Geno
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 25 @ 1:38 PM ET
With regards to Geno, he had one of this best statistical seasons last season averaging 1.34 points per game. I just don't see it being a steep age curve only 10 months later, when he finished off last March with 11 points in 5 games. I see it in his face, his head (confidence) is a little shot, like it has been many times before.

We have to expect his production to start dropping...but not to 0.33 points per game this quick.

- MattStrat

Geno will get back. I actually love that they put Kap with Geno because Rust clearly wasn't working on Geno's line. Guentz-Sid-Rust looked good. Kap needs to not defer to Geno though and do what he was doing with Blueger. I think that will help Geno out by taking attention off Geno by using his speed and shot.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 25 @ 1:39 PM ET
I hope I didnt just jinx Geno
- MattStrat

Haha, nahh
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Jan 25 @ 1:45 PM ET
hahah I didnt see this before I made a pretty much identical post...if I had I wouldn't of made a pretty much identical post haha
- MattStrat

Great minds...
pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: BC
Joined: 10.01.2013

Jan 25 @ 1:52 PM ET
Ennis and Pateryn on waivers. Very hard pass on Ennis for me but I’ve always liked pateryns game. 2.25 mill is a bit steep for 3rd pair RD though
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 25 @ 2:08 PM ET
Are you implying that I would just trade them away for nothing? Their friendly contracts make them more tradable opening up the pool of players I could trade for. If I need a 3C down the road, having that Dumo on a good contract up my sleeve could be handy. If I don’t need to trade them then I have friendly contracts on my roster. Where is the downside again?
- stackthepads


I think you’re just missing what I’m pointing out. Not sure how to make it more clear.

The Pens window is closing fast.

I get that Dumo and Petts are attractive pieces you can use to pick up upgrades, but the time it's going to take to find out if Matheson figures it out is time you're wasting of the window when you could have addressed those needs NOW.

Who cares about next year? Burn a year just to see if a player you didn't need makes other players expendable?

Even if Matheson was healthy, you're wasting time to find out if he improves here when you could have had a stronger bottom-six going in to this season. The Pens Defense was set without him.

Again, I just don't get the logic.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Jan 25 @ 2:15 PM ET
Ennis and Pateryn on waivers. Very hard pass on Ennis for me but I’ve always liked pateryns game. 2.25 mill is a bit steep for 3rd pair RD though
- pens4life-66

I feel the opposite - I would take Ennis but hard pass on Pateryn. Ennis would add nice center depth.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 25 @ 2:36 PM ET
I feel the opposite - I would take Ennis but hard pass on Pateryn. Ennis would add nice center depth.
- Hockey66


Ennis was player I hoped the Pens would pursue this past off season.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 25 @ 2:37 PM ET
I feel the opposite - I would take Ennis but hard pass on Pateryn. Ennis would add nice center depth.
- Hockey66


Agreed. Ennis would be a solid depth addition based on recent years. I’d rather keep Ruh. His play is satisfactory and you can’t beat his price point.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 25 @ 2:42 PM ET
Ennis was player I hoped the Pens would pursue this past off season.
- Rinosaur

I'd take a flyer on him, I'd have to check his cap hit first
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