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10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 26 @ 10:30 AM ET
Looking like O'Connor will draw into lineup this eve...loving the fresh rookie looks we've been getting so far.

https://www.nhl.com/pengu...FAtCy7qerF68U5sumeMBDb3q0

- MattStrat



Nice. He was practicing on the 2nd pp yesterday so I was hoping he was chosen. Hope he brings his A game!
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jan 26 @ 10:34 AM ET
You think he starts the third? Haha. He's been so bad. I know the Sens suck but good goalies find a way every once in a while to come up with not letting in 3+
- 668710

Haha let's all laugh because Murray has a 4.47 GAA.

Meanwhile Jarry has a 4.28 GAA, so maybe we living in a glass house here.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 26 @ 10:44 AM ET
Jesse Marshall just wrote an article on Geno. Anyone got the cliff notes?
- j.boyd919

Haven’t read it yet but from the sounds of his tweet teasing it last night it is dire.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 26 @ 10:47 AM ET
Haha let's all laugh because Murray has a 4.47 GAA.

Meanwhile Jarry has a 4.28 GAA, so maybe we living in a glass house here.

- Tojo.

I advocated trading Fleury when it was time, and I advocated trading Murray when it was time. I’ll once again advocate trading Jarry when an internal cheaper starting option presents itself. But I will never in a million years understand this fanbase’s schadenfreude in reveling in the failings of goalies who won cups for us.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 26 @ 10:52 AM ET
I'm dying to know what Marshall is saying about Geno.

RW's next blog, or the one after, will probably reference it.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 26 @ 10:58 AM ET
I advocated trading Fleury when it was time, and I advocated trading Murray when it was time. I’ll once again advocate trading Jarry when an internal cheaper starting option presents itself. But I will never in a million years understand this fanbase’s schadenfreude in reveling in the failings of goalies who won cups for us.
- Victoro311


It’s very bizarre. What’s even more bizarre is the level of dissatisfaction from fans with MAF when he was here, the constant whining about him choking, followed by the criticism that trading him was a mistake.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 26 @ 11:04 AM ET
Ok I read it. Spark notes:

The stats match the eye test. He’s having an absolutely abysmal season to date. He’s something like 370th in game score and also really bad in individual quality chance generation. His impact on team defense is also crazy negative. Like Jack Johnson level negative. Marshall then uses video analysis to argue that the defensive impact is because he’s trying too hard to generate offense and essentially has the yips, not necessarily laziness. He also suggests that Geno’s struggles are correlated with Marino’s who’s his most common defensive partner.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 26 @ 11:06 AM ET
Ok I read it. Spark notes:

The stats match the eye test. He’s having an absolutely abysmal season to date. He’s something like 370th in game score and also really bad in individual quality chance generation. His impact on team defense is also crazy negative. Like Jack Johnson level negative. Marshall then uses video analysis to argue that the defensive impact is because he’s trying too hard to generate offense and essentially has the yips, not necessarily laziness. He also suggests that Geno’s struggles are correlated with Marino’s who’s his most common defensive partner.

- Victoro311


Thank you sir.

How does Marshall feel about him getting out of this early funk, I wonder....
wsldck
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 09.03.2020

Jan 26 @ 11:06 AM ET
Basically, Malkin is trying so hard to generate offense, he’s turned into a mess.

“What we see here is a 34 percent swing with and without Malkin on the ice. That is a drastic change in performance, specifically in the quality allowed between the circles in the slot area. The Penguins aren’t just a slightly worse defensive team with Malkin on the ice this season, it’s like they are a completely different team.”

“Whatever the case, Malkin’s pressing is evident and it’s affecting his game and approach, specifically in the defensive zone. Sometimes less can be more. The challenge for Malkin is to find the right recipe for pressing and living to fight another day. For the coaching staff, there might be a larger conversation to be had about Malkin’s deployment and the best defensemen to play with him.”
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 26 @ 11:07 AM ET
Basically, Malkin is trying so hard to generate offense, he’s turned into a mess.

“What we see here is a 34 percent swing with and without Malkin on the ice. That is a drastic change in performance, specifically in the quality allowed between the circles in the slot area. The Penguins aren’t just a slightly worse defensive team with Malkin on the ice this season, it’s like they are a completely different team.”

“Whatever the case, Malkin’s pressing is evident and it’s affecting his game and approach, specifically in the defensive zone. Sometimes less can be more. The challenge for Malkin is to find the right recipe for pressing and living to fight another day. For the coaching staff, there might be a larger conversation to be had about Malkin’s deployment and the best defensemen to play with him.”

- wsldck


...and thanks to you as well for this.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 26 @ 11:08 AM ET
Well thats it...the Marino on is off side with Ceci on the right has to go. No question.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 26 @ 11:19 AM ET
Well thats it...the Marino on is off side with Ceci on the right has to go. No question.
- MattStrat

I don’t think it’ll be a silver bullet that fixes Malkin or anything, but Cody Ceci logged like a bottom 10 game in game score for this season to date last game. You can’t make Marino play his off side AND give him a partner that bad. There is no other choice but to throw POJ to the wolves and see if he can handle a second paring role with Marino because the current set up is untenable.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 26 @ 11:24 AM ET
I advocated trading Fleury when it was time, and I advocated trading Murray when it was time. I’ll once again advocate trading Jarry when an internal cheaper starting option presents itself. But I will never in a million years understand this fanbase’s schadenfreude in reveling in the failings of goalies who won cups for us.
- Victoro311

I honestly feel bad for Murray, the passing of his dad hit him real hard. I want all our guys to do good. Obviously was rooting for Flower in that cup finals. But yea, Murray hasn't gotten it fully together since his dad passed. Sure he's had some stretches but nowhere near what he was..
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 26 @ 11:27 AM ET
I don’t think it’ll be a silver bullet that fixes Malkin or anything, but Cody Ceci logged like a bottom 10 game in game score for this season to date last game. You can’t make Marino play his off side AND give him a partner that bad. There is no other choice but to throw POJ to the wolves and see if he can handle a second paring role with Marino because the current set up is untenable.
- Victoro311

Thanks for sharing the info btw, appreciate it! Marino needs to be back on the left even if he plays with Ceci. Ceci gonna Ceci whichever side he's on haha.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 26 @ 11:30 AM ET
Basically, Malkin is trying so hard to generate offense, he’s turned into a mess.

“What we see here is a 34 percent swing with and without Malkin on the ice. That is a drastic change in performance, specifically in the quality allowed between the circles in the slot area. The Penguins aren’t just a slightly worse defensive team with Malkin on the ice this season, it’s like they are a completely different team.”

“Whatever the case, Malkin’s pressing is evident and it’s affecting his game and approach, specifically in the defensive zone. Sometimes less can be more. The challenge for Malkin is to find the right recipe for pressing and living to fight another day. For the coaching staff, there might be a larger conversation to be had about Malkin’s deployment and the best defensemen to play with him.”

- wsldck

Thanks for sharing as well! Geno gotta get out of this slump somehow..
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 26 @ 11:31 AM ET
I don’t think it’ll be a silver bullet that fixes Malkin or anything, but Cody Ceci logged like a bottom 10 game in game score for this season to date last game. You can’t make Marino play his off side AND give him a partner that bad. There is no other choice but to throw POJ to the wolves and see if he can handle a second paring role with Marino because the current set up is untenable.
- Victoro311


I agree it wont be a silver bullet but the on ice product is suffering way too much with them on the ice in that set up...and unfortunately for Geno, he's getting the bulk of their deployments. For someone who has a very shaky confidence, and isn't playing that great as an individual, that set up is disastrous in many ways for Geno and the team as a whole.

There is one other option that Hockey66 and I alluded to yesterday and that is scratch Ceci and put Kevin Cuuz in the lineup. He's a lefty and you go with either:

Cuuz/PO-Marino
Cuuz/PO- Rudy
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 26 @ 11:33 AM ET
Do we really think there'd be much of any drop off from Ceci to Cuuz? hahah nah...especially with it meaning Marino could play his natural side. The defense as a whole would most likely improve.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 26 @ 11:40 AM ET
Do we really think there'd be much of any drop off from Ceci to Cuuz? hahah nah...especially with it meaning Marino could play his natural side. The defense as a whole would most likely improve.
- MattStrat

Yea I'm with you guys on that. I'd love to give POJ that second pair shot too.
chimpira
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.18.2015

Jan 26 @ 11:45 AM ET
Haha let's all laugh because Murray has a 4.47 GAA.

Meanwhile Jarry has a 4.28 GAA, so maybe we living in a glass house here.

- Tojo.


For the money MM is getting, 4.47 GAA is absolutely horrendous. If keeps this up, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets bought out.

Yes, Jarry had 2 bad games but maybe bouncing back somewhat. MM seems to be getting worse. I. for one, am glad that MM is someone else's problem. He is very mediocre - horrendous glove hand, bad rebound control.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 26 @ 11:50 AM ET
For Cuuz to come up to the roster from taxi would someone have to go on waivers?...while I really can't see anyone claiming Ceci if he hit waivers I also really can't see JR putting him on them.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 26 @ 11:52 AM ET
For the money MM is getting, 4.47 GAA is absolutely horrendous. If keeps this up, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets bought out.

Yes, Jarry had 2 bad games but maybe bouncing back somewhat. MM seems to be getting worse. I. for one, am glad that MM is someone else's problem. He is very mediocre - horrendous glove hand, bad rebound control.

- chimpira

Yea the first goal was atrocious rebound control. It's crazy how bad he is.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 26 @ 11:53 AM ET
For Cuuz to come up to the roster from taxi would someone have to go on waivers?...while I really can't see anyone claiming Ceci if he hit waivers I also really can't see JR putting him on them.
- MattStrat

He should put Ceci on waivers and see if someone claims his ass haha.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 26 @ 12:12 PM ET
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