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oldstyle
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Just outside the asylum, ON
Joined: 08.19.2013

Feb 21 @ 12:43 PM ET
No doubt on pure talent, McDavid has no peers. There's probably only half a dozen guys in the league who can even think the game like him*, and no one can do it at his speed.

On the defensive end, Mathews reels in some of the lead though. Unless one pulls away you can argue it either way, but I'd give the edge to McDavid**



*Happily, one of them is Marner.
**Mathews future teammate.
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Feb 21 @ 12:44 PM ET
McDavid
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Feb 21 @ 12:47 PM ET
No doubt on pure talent, McDavid has no peers. There's probably only half a dozen guys in the league who can even think the game like him*, and no one can do it at his speed.

On the defensive end, Mathews reels in some of the lead though. Unless one pulls away you can argue it either way, but I'd give the edge to McDavid**



*Happily, one of them is Marner.
**Mathews future teammate.

- oldstyle

McDavid doesn’t have to play defense. When he is out there the puck is automatically on his stick and he is flying at a speed no player can reach.



All joking aside Matthews is a great player. McDavid is however far superior
jpl0219
St Louis Blues
Location: O Fallon, MO
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 21 @ 12:47 PM ET
I mean, its pretty easy when you have only Canadian teams to beat up on.
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Feb 21 @ 12:48 PM ET
In any debate involving mcdavid- the answer is always him:


Both the Best player in the world by a country mile and carries that franchise on his back

Leaf fans will say Matthews, everyone else knows it’s Connor

- HB77


holy poop, hey dude
Jackie Daytona
Joined: 10.09.2020

Feb 21 @ 12:53 PM ET
Matthews appears to have developed a better understanding of the defensive game than McDavid, and now that Ovechkin is in decline, there may be no better shot.

However, McDavid is the better player, and is a better player without much of a supporting cast. No players can match his tool set. I sense McDavid will likely be the MVP with Matthews as runner-up. The only things that I can see impacting this is a significant injury to either player, or votes being split between these players and their co-pilots, Draisaitl and Marner. This might allow a third party to rise from below.
Shady1962
Joined: 02.06.2021

Feb 21 @ 12:56 PM ET
McDavid and Draisaitl are both better than Matthews.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Feb 21 @ 12:56 PM ET
Eklund: Sunday Debate: Who is the NHL MVP. McDavid or Matthews?
- Eklund

Here’s how this thread will go:

Leafs fans-Matthews. By a long shot
Every other teams fans- McDavid and it’s not close.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 21 @ 1:02 PM ET
Mathews isn’t even the leading scorer on his team, name a Hart Trophy winner who’s second on their team in scoring.

McDavid is clearly a better player and more important to his team.
explorer
Joined: 01.07.2015

Feb 21 @ 1:03 PM ET
McDavid and Draisaitl are both better than Matthews.
- Shady1962

Wow mcdavid is the best player but closer then people think. 2 different type ofplayers. The question I’d who is mvp not best player. Saying Draisaitl is better then Matthews is just stupid.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Feb 21 @ 1:03 PM ET
Here’s how this thread will go:

Leafs fans-Matthews. By a long shot
Every other teams fans- McDavid and it’s not close.

- TurdFergeson


Derp
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Feb 21 @ 1:05 PM ET
Wow mcdavid is the best player but closer then people think. 2 different type ofplayers. The question I’d who is mvp not best player. Saying Draisaitl is better then Matthews is just stupid.
- explorer

Who is MVP makes it even a bigger gap for McDavid. The oilers without him are lottery bound. The leafs without Matthews are still pretty good.
Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Feb 21 @ 1:07 PM ET
I think it's worth noting that both players are based in Canada which is frozen for like 6 months a year. Like this storm in Texas is what Canada routinely faces for 6 months. Or so we've been told...
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Feb 21 @ 1:10 PM ET
I mean, its pretty easy when you have only Canadian teams to beat up on.
- jpl0219

North division is complete poop. No doubt.
Kinger34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We may have already seen Matthews at his potential - SMBDragon, ON
Joined: 07.04.2011

Feb 21 @ 1:11 PM ET
McDavid is the better player - hands down.
Kinger34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We may have already seen Matthews at his potential - SMBDragon, ON
Joined: 07.04.2011

Feb 21 @ 1:12 PM ET
North division is complete poop. No doubt.
- TurdFergeson


As are the majority of your comments.

You are the North Division of Hockeybuzz posters.
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Feb 21 @ 1:14 PM ET
Matthews is an all star and a great player. McDavid is a generational talent. Crosby, Lemieux, Ovie, Gretzky. Etc. if you disagree I don’t know how
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Feb 21 @ 1:19 PM ET
As are the majority of your comments.

You are the North Division of Hockeybuzz posters.

- Kinger34

Ouch. I’m so hurt. Are you going to be ok muffin?
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: TERRACE LANCO, CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Feb 21 @ 1:29 PM ET
Kopitar...21 pts in 16 games,plays almost 22 mins a night,plays in all situations.still one of the best defensive forwards in the game.also plays with very little supporting cast,your choices have at least 1 other superstar to work with,this guy has been carrying the kings for yrs.
Not belittling what the other 2 have done in anyway,both superstars and having amazing yrs,these guys are going to be talked about for along time,but kopitar is in the convo.

- Dewey8


Top 3 in Divisional MVP race for sure.
James-TFS
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St George, ON
Joined: 07.24.2017

Feb 21 @ 1:31 PM ET
The question is who is the MVP. When looking at the MVP, I always consider what the team would be without that player. A few years ago, Hall won in NJ because they had nothing else and he put up 90+ points, it’s the same with McDavid this year. He is the MVP at this point(assuming they make the playoffs) because without him, the Oilers are an absolute train wreck.

If you are debating who is the best player? That is an entirely different question. McDavid is faster and a better playmaker/offensive player. He makes those around him significantly better. Matthews is a better goal scorer, the best in the league right now and over the next few years, I think will show he is one of the best goal scorers of all time. (I know it’s early but give him a few years). Matthews is also the better defensive player. He’s not going to win the Selke any time soon but he is a much better player defensively than McDavid.

I would say at this point McDavid is the better player but it is definitely closer is than most people will admit
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Feb 21 @ 1:34 PM ET
Neither player should since they both play in the amateur division this year.
BlackSwan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.21.2020

Feb 21 @ 1:40 PM ET
McDavid will win the Hart

Matthews will win the Rocket

The guys on here posting over who's the better player are complete f*tards who miss the point.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Feb 21 @ 1:50 PM ET
holy poop, hey dude
- Oilers4Life14

😂

🤛
JoeForts
Location: ON
Joined: 04.18.2015

Feb 21 @ 1:59 PM ET
McDavid...... by a mile.

Then a lot of other guys.... and at nr 8, 9 or 10 this kid from Arizona.

- Delios001


So top 10? nice.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Feb 21 @ 2:04 PM ET
Mathews isn’t even the leading scorer on his team, name a Hart Trophy winner who’s second on their team in scoring.

McDavid is clearly a better player and more important to his team.

- Pacificgem


Matthews is very very (could easily add 10 more very's here) easily the best player on the Leafs, regardless of Marner putting up good point totals.

And I don't think anyone is arguing that McJesus is better than literally everyone.
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