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eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 23 @ 10:14 AM ET
Eichel to the Rangers for Kreider, Laf, and a 1st.

Hall is gone at the end of the season. Not getting rid of Skinner without paying too high a price. When does Eichel finally request the trade? This summer? Next one?

- mgriffen

Kreider has a full NMC and I'm pretty confident nobody is going to pass up living and playing in NYC for living and playing in Buffalo

The Rangers have a ton of assets but I'm not sure Buffalo can really afford to take futures-only and, as far as tradeable roster players, the Rangers have just about nobody that either a) Buffalo would want, b) the Rangers could physically move (NMC's), or c) the Rangers would actually want to move
mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 23 @ 10:15 AM ET
Kreider has a full NMC and I'm pretty confident nobody is going to pass up living and playing in NYC for living and playing in Buffalo
- eichiefs9


He was mostly for the salary, so if you couldn't get him to go then find someone serviceable who can
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 23 @ 10:18 AM ET
He was mostly for the salary, so if you couldn't get him to go then find someone serviceable who can
- mgriffen

See my edit -- Panarin/Kreider/Zibanejad/Trouba all have full NMC's. They aren't probably aren't dying to move Lafreniere/Fox/Miller. Maybe Kakko is the centerpiece but, even though he's played well this season, that's a little risky.

Also I have a strong feeling that if/when Buffalo does have their hand forced to trade Eichel, they'll do everything in their power to get him to the Western Conference.

Rangers have a big need for him but it just doesn't seem entirely plausible unless they really blow Buffalo's doors off with a big offer. Maybe I just don't want it to happen because I'm an Isles fan, but it seems like a tough deal to work out with those two teams.
mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 23 @ 10:27 AM ET
See my edit -- Panarin/Kreider/Zibanejad/Trouba all have full NMC's. They aren't probably aren't dying to move Lafreniere/Fox/Miller. Maybe Kakko is the centerpiece but, even though he's played well this season, that's a little risky.

Also I have a strong feeling that if/when Buffalo does have their hand forced to trade Eichel, they'll do everything in their power to get him to the Western Conference.

Rangers have a big need for him but it just doesn't seem entirely plausible unless they really blow Buffalo's doors off with a big offer. Maybe I just don't want it to happen because I'm an Isles fan, but it seems like a tough deal to work out with those two teams.

- eichiefs9


mostly just thought Eichel and Panarin playing together would be pretty cool. Probably heads out west, but that limits your returns...like ROR. Last year's 1st overall combined with a first from this year would be pretty tempting considering Buffalo has some young talent that should be elite eventually. Doubt he comes north of the border.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Feb 23 @ 10:29 AM ET


Matthews isn't fit to hold McDavid's jock.....and anyone other than the most homerish of leaf fans (which clearly includes you and Campbell) will agree.

- sensarmy_11


Seems like you're wrong about this.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Feb 23 @ 10:30 AM ET
AND YOU MY FRIEND ARE AN IDIOT AND DON'T HAVE A CLUE......ARE YOU NEW TO HOCKEY.....SURE LOOKS LIKE IT
- Leafcup


he's a Sens fan.... He must be new to hockey.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 23 @ 10:33 AM ET
mostly just thought Eichel and Panarin playing together would be pretty cool. Probably heads out west, but that limits your returns...like ROR. Last year's 1st overall combined with a first from this year would be pretty tempting considering Buffalo has some young talent that should be elite eventually. Doubt he comes north of the border.
- mgriffen

I just can't think of a time when we saw a first overall pick traded before he's even been with the organization for a full year.

I wonder if WPG wouldn't flip Dubois and some other assets for Eichel. Not sure if they have the other pieces that'd be required to make it happen, but I'm sure they'd love to be in the mix for him.
Udogs
Joined: 09.19.2019

Feb 23 @ 10:40 AM ET
I just can't think of a time when we saw a first overall pick traded before he's even been with the organization for a full year.

I wonder if WPG wouldn't flip Dubois and some other assets for Eichel. Not sure if they have the other pieces that'd be required to make it happen, but I'm sure they'd love to be in the mix for him.

- eichiefs9


Probably not since his dad currently works in the organization..

Monahan, Bennett and a 1st enough to get it done? This offseason of course, after Calgary has failed to make the playoffs
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 23 @ 10:48 AM ET
Probably not since his dad currently works in the organization..

Monahan, Bennett and a 1st enough to get it done? This offseason of course, after Calgary has failed to make the playoffs

- Udogs

His dad is an AHL asst coach. I don't think they'd pass up on a very talented player to appease some minor-league-level assistant. Maybe there's not a fit there, but I can't imagine that his father would be the reason.

And I have very strong doubts that would be even close to enough from Calgary.
Blockhead
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.26.2020

Feb 23 @ 10:56 AM ET
Probably not since his dad currently works in the organization..

Monahan, Bennett and a 1st enough to get it done? This offseason of course, after Calgary has failed to make the playoffs

- Udogs


not even close. Eichel is not getting traded. Not a chance. He's hurt.

and THAT crap is laughable.

Try Byfield, Turcotte and a first.


McD vs Matthews. Its this simple. If Edm calls Toronto with a 1 for 1 deal, Toronto flies to Edm to get him. If Toronto calls Edm, they hang up the phone, and anyone saying otherwise, is wrong.

Case closed.
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Feb 23 @ 11:08 AM ET
Eklund: Jeff Skinner Healthy Scratch for the Sabres....What's up?
- Eklund

9 million and not producing is what's up , nothing new here
Udogs
Joined: 09.19.2019

Feb 23 @ 11:11 AM ET
His dad is an AHL asst coach. I don't think they'd pass up on a very talented player to appease some minor-league-level assistant. Maybe there's not a fit there, but I can't imagine that his father would be the reason.

And I have very strong doubts that would be even close to enough from Calgary.

- eichiefs9


Why would Winnipeg create controversy with Scheifele (their next captain, per Chevy) to bring in another RH Center when they just got Dubois. They're set up the middle, they need to use those additional pieces to improve the back end.

I guess my point is I think Calgary is more likely to ante up. They just made long term commitments to Andersson, Tanev and Markstrom this past offseason. They can't score much and everyone in town is calling for a change up front. So Monahan, Bennett and a first isn't enough to get it done, but it's a framework... throw in a 2022 2nd and a D-level prospect and I think Calgary has the best chance of anyone in the West to land him. Then he goes h2h with McDavid however many times a year. It just works on so many levels.

But in the end I think Eichel ends up in Boston.
Udogs
Joined: 09.19.2019

Feb 23 @ 11:13 AM ET
not even close. Eichel is not getting traded. Not a chance. He's hurt.

and THAT crap is laughable.

Try Byfield, Turcotte and a first.


McD vs Matthews. Its this simple. If Edm calls Toronto with a 1 for 1 deal, Toronto flies to Edm to get him. If Toronto calls Edm, they hang up the phone, and anyone saying otherwise, is wrong.

Case closed.

- Blockhead


Yeah, he's butt hurt.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 23 @ 11:15 AM ET
Why would Winnipeg create controversy with Scheifele (their next captain, per Chevy) to bring in another RH Center when they just got Dubois. They're set up the middle, they need to use those additional pieces to improve the back end.

I guess my point is I think Calgary is more likely to ante up. They just made long term commitments to Andersson, Tanev and Markstrom this past offseason. They can't score much and everyone in town is calling for a change up front. So Monahan, Bennett and a first isn't enough to get it done, but it's a framework... throw in a 2022 2nd and a D-level prospect and I think Calgary has the best chance of anyone in the West to land him. Then he goes h2h with McDavid however many times a year. It just works on so many levels.

But in the end I think Eichel ends up in Boston.

- Udogs

I don't really see how making your team markedly better would create a controversy, but I'm also not hung up on thinking they'll definitely be making a serious run on him so it doesn't really matter.

I would also respectfully disagree about the chance he ends up being traded to a division rival.
Blockhead
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.26.2020

Feb 23 @ 11:15 AM ET
Yeah, he's butt hurt.
- Udogs


How many Sabres games have y0ou watched this year.

yeah...I thought so.

STFU
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 23 @ 11:15 AM ET
I agree. Matthews and mcdavid are not in the same league. But im sure if mcdavid works hard at becoming a more complete player he can close the gap and catch up to mackinnon and matthews.
- prock


sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 23 @ 11:17 AM ET
AND YOU MY FRIEND ARE AN IDIOT AND DON'T HAVE A CLUE......ARE YOU NEW TO HOCKEY.....SURE LOOKS LIKE IT
- Leafcup


are you suggesting Matthews is better?

the guy just went on the best run of his entire career, and is still EIGHT (frank)ING POINTS behind Mcdavid, who's just doing what he does.

like i said, anyone who isn't a giant biased homer, knows that Mcdavid is the better player.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Feb 23 @ 11:17 AM ET
not even close. Eichel is not getting traded. Not a chance. He's hurt.

and THAT crap is laughable.

Try Byfield, Turcotte and a first.


McD vs Matthews. Its this simple. If Edm calls Toronto with a 1 for 1 deal, Toronto flies to Edm to get him. If Toronto calls Edm, they hang up the phone, and anyone saying otherwise, is wrong.

Case closed.

- Blockhead


Im not sure about that. I can understand why many would take mcdavid based on potential, but at some point he has to start reaching that potential. Its been 4 years since he won the hart trophy and its obviously clear Auston Matthews, leading the first plCe Leafs is at this point more likely to win the Hart this year.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 23 @ 11:24 AM ET
Im not sure about that. I can understand why many would take mcdavid based on potential, but at some point he has to start reaching that potential. Its been 4 years since he won the hart trophy and its obviously clear Auston Matthews, leading the first plCe Leafs is at this point more likely to win the Hart this year.
- prock




Mcdavid - 24 years old
- 371 games, 506 pts
- 1 x hart, 2 x lindsey, 2 x art ross (and would have run away with the calder if he didn't miss most of his rookie season)......AND his team has won a playoff round

matthews - 23 year old
- 301 gp, 314 pts
- 1 x calder....AND zero playoff wins

tell me again about potential. you're saying mcdavid, despite being INFINITELY more successful than matthews so far, still hasn't reached his full potential.

thank you for proving my point.
hags11
Season Ticket Holder
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Feb 23 @ 11:29 AM ET
Why would Winnipeg create controversy with Scheifele (their next captain, per Chevy) to bring in another RH Center when they just got Dubois. They're set up the middle, they need to use those additional pieces to improve the back end.

I guess my point is I think Calgary is more likely to ante up. They just made long term commitments to Andersson, Tanev and Markstrom this past offseason. They can't score much and everyone in town is calling for a change up front. So Monahan, Bennett and a first isn't enough to get it done, but it's a framework... throw in a 2022 2nd and a D-level prospect and I think Calgary has the best chance of anyone in the West to land him. Then he goes h2h with McDavid however many times a year. It just works on so many levels.

But in the end I think Eichel ends up in Boston.

- Udogs


I think that if (and it's a big if) Calgary has a chance at Eichel, then it starts with Tkachuk - or the Sabres hang up the phone. So with that in mind - not saying that I would do this deal but here is what I think Buffalo might consider:
Tkachuk + 2021 first + Bennett + Rittich.
It would be a risky trade for Flames to give up Tkachuk - but you are not getting Buffalo's best player without giving up your best player (not counting Markstrom)

prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Feb 23 @ 11:34 AM ET


Mcdavid - 24 years old
- 371 games, 506 pts
- 1 x hart, 2 x lindsey, 2 x art ross (and would have run away with the calder if he didn't miss most of his rookie season)......AND his team has won a playoff round

matthews - 23 year old
- 301 gp, 314 pts
- 1 x calder....AND zero playoff wins

tell me again about potential. you're saying mcdavid, despite being INFINITELY more successful than matthews so far, still hasn't reached his full potential.

thank you for proving my point.

- sensarmy_11


You seem triggered and im not sure why. Ive already acknowledged that if mcdavid works on becoming a more co.plete player, like cassie campbell says, he can catch up with auston matthews.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 23 @ 11:36 AM ET
You seem triggered and im not sure why. Ive already acknowledged that if mcdavid works on becoming a more co.plete player, like cassie campbell says, he can catch up with auston matthews.
- prock


i love how you continue to make this meme so appropriate


islansjet
Joined: 03.13.2017

Feb 23 @ 11:45 AM ET
The Sabres' are a mess. They have no leadership and a captain that's a me first coach killer. He isn't worth what the Sabre fans think they can get for him. He has to be traded to a team with strong leaders like Pitt, Boston or Chicago where he can concentrate on just playing and not complaining in his passive aggressive way.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 23 @ 11:47 AM ET


Mcdavid - 24 years old
- 371 games, 506 pts
- 1 x hart, 2 x lindsey, 2 x art ross (and would have run away with the calder if he didn't miss most of his rookie season)......AND his team has won a playoff round

matthews - 23 year old
- 301 gp, 314 pts
- 1 x calder....AND zero playoff wins

tell me again about potential. you're saying mcdavid, despite being INFINITELY more successful than matthews so far, still hasn't reached his full potential.

thank you for proving my point.

- sensarmy_11

How have you not realized that he's (frank)ing with you yet
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Feb 23 @ 11:48 AM ET
i love how you continue to make this meme so appropriate



- sensarmy_11



I think you need to calm down. And I suspect posting the same stupid image over and over probably just serves to annoy other posters.
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