Wanna blog? Start your own hockey blog with My HockeyBuzz. Register for free today!
 
Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: The Canucks' hole gets deeper after 3-0 lead evaporates against the Oilers
Author Message
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 25 @ 3:43 PM ET
Does this apply to Marky as well? Or it only applies to some players or some injuries?
- RealityChecker

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 25 @ 3:44 PM ET
Their first 1st overall pick was twelve drafts ago this spring, I’m talking current. People still hung up on them drafting first overall twelve drafts ago need to move on
- Pacificgem


Like Bennings trading 7 years ago?
Pacificgem
Location: Beautiful , AZ
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 25 @ 3:47 PM ET
Green's interview today tells me he knows his days are numbered.
- VanHockeyGuy

If they continue to lose it’s a forgone conclusion. It’s easier to change the coach than trade all 23 players.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 25 @ 3:47 PM ET

Farhan Lalji
@FarhanLaljiTSN
· 2m
Both Hawryluk & Hamonic are now listed on #Canucks active roster. Eriksson is not, so back to taxi.
Pacificgem
Location: Beautiful , AZ
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 25 @ 3:53 PM ET
Like Bennings trading 7 years ago?

- VANTEL

I’m talking about drafting, drafting, again nice deflection. Simply saying they did well to add five defencemen in eight drafts while also adding top end forwards. Maybe Chiarelli was a better drafter than I thought.

Nurse - 7th overall 2013
William Lagesson - 4th round 2014
Caleb Jones - 4th round 2015
Ethan Bear - 5th round 2015
Evan Bouchard - 10th overall 2018

Plus Philip Broberg 8th overall in 2019 yet to make it.

Conversely the Canucks have only added Quinn Hughes and Olli Juolevi while adding a bunch of top forwards. From the draft.

Edit: if Woo and Rathbone can make the jump to the NHL it looks much better for us though.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 25 @ 3:54 PM ET
ummm Boeser was a calder nominee, finished 2nd, and was an all star and all star MVP if i recall... doesn't he count as a star?
- MisterBrown

It was in response to a post regarding top 10 picks. Boeser is definitely a star player, but as he was 23OA he wasn't part of the discussion.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 25 @ 4:03 PM ET
Their first 1st overall pick was twelve drafts ago this spring, I’m talking current. People still hung up on them drafting first overall twelve drafts ago need to move on
- Pacificgem

So you admire Edmonton, MTL, TO, PHILLY, AZ? Any teams I’m missing? Basically any team other than Van?
Pacificgem
Location: Beautiful , AZ
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 25 @ 4:07 PM ET
So you admire Edmonton, MTL, TO, PHILLY, AZ? Any teams I’m missing? Basically any team other than Van?
- CanuckDon

I admire good drafting regardless of what team it is
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 25 @ 4:10 PM ET
I’m talking about drafting, drafting, again nice deflection. Simply saying they did well to add five defencemen in eight drafts while also adding top end forwards. Maybe Chiarelli was a better drafter than I thought.

Nurse - 7th overall 2013
William Lagesson - 4th round 2014
Caleb Jones - 4th round 2015
Ethan Bear - 5th round 2015
Evan Bouchard - 10th overall 2018

Plus Philip Broberg 8th overall in 2019 yet to make it.

Conversely the Canucks have only added Quinn Hughes and Olli Juolevi while adding a bunch of top forwards. From the draft.

- Pacificgem


First of all you are cherry picking numbers there have been four different GMs in the years that you listed . McTavish Ciarelli Keith Gretzky and Holland . I would even remove Gretz and that is still three .

Next of the list of Dmen that you named there is so far only one that has proven value . Baer is a 5/6 guy and Buchard and Broeberg yet to be proven. They may be good in years but so far are just potentials .
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 25 @ 4:12 PM ET
It was in response to a post regarding top 10 picks. Boeser is definitely a star player, but as he was 23OA he wasn't part of the discussion.
- Retinalz


I think Boeser is a good player, I am not sure he is a star.
Pacificgem
Location: Beautiful , AZ
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 25 @ 4:16 PM ET
First of all you are cherry picking numbers there have been four different GMs in the years that you listed . McTavish Ciarelli Keith Gretzky and Holland . I would even remove Gretz and that is still three .

Next of the list of Dmen that you named there is so far only one that has proven value . Baer is a 5/6 guy and Buchard and Broeberg yet to be proven. They may be good in years but so far are just potentials .

- VANTEL

“The Oilers drafting has been better than I thought” is cherry-picking numbers?

I picked the past eight drafts because it takes around four years for a later round pick to establish himself as a defencemen. I didn’t pick eight drafts because I thought Chiarelli was the GM that entire time. Although I did reference his name.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Feb 25 @ 4:24 PM ET
Big Save Dave!!

How'd you guys do in OT?

Oh wait....

- LordHumungous

Held them to 1 goal.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 25 @ 4:24 PM ET
“The Oilers drafting has been better than I thought” is cherry-picking numbers?

I picked the past eight drafts because it takes around four years for a later round pick to establish himself as a defencemen. I didn’t pick eight drafts because I thought Chiarelli was the GM that entire time. Although I did reference his name.

- Pacificgem


The Oilers in the last decade and a year have had four firsts, a third ,a fourth, a seventh , and an eighth . Oilers have only hit on one draft pick in the second round since 2011(Klefbom). That is not good drafting .
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 25 @ 4:30 PM ET
I sort of feel sorry for the Sabers situation.

Skinners agent has called the GM and asked what gives? GM probably told him your player stinks. Agent would probably say can you trade him? GM responds no one wants him.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 25 @ 4:36 PM ET
I sort of feel sorry for the Sabers situation.

Skinners agent has called the GM and asked what gives? GM probably told him your player stinks. Agent would probably say can you trade him? GM responds no one wants him.

- VANTEL


Feel sorry for us. (frank) the Sabers. Skinner = Loui
Pacificgem
Location: Beautiful , AZ
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 25 @ 4:37 PM ET
The Oilers in the last decade and a year have had four firsts, a third ,a fourth, a seventh , and an eighth . Add that to all the high second round picks they have had . The teams from eight years ago still had the benefit of a Taylor Hall and RNH. Oilers have only hit on one draft pick in the second round since 2011(Klefbom). That is not good drafting .
- VANTEL

The past eight years would disagree with your assessment. It’s been very similar to ours, 1728 games played for their franchise via the draft vs 1630 games played for our franchise via the draft.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 25 @ 4:39 PM ET
Feel sorry for us. (frank) the Sabers. Skinner = Loui
- CanuckDon

I know
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Feb 25 @ 4:41 PM ET
He should be bought out this year save 3 mil in cap .
- VANTEL


Why buy out, when you can just use LTIR and not buy out?
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Feb 25 @ 4:42 PM ET
Anyone remember when the Coyotes were praised for all the amazing prospects they had in their pool?
Wonder what happened to that phenomenal group.
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

Feb 25 @ 4:43 PM ET
That discussion is old . He was cleared by doctors . As Brooksie on here pointed out you can't predict injuries.
- VANTEL


Writing was on the wall for Ferland though. Unfortunate as it is.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 25 @ 4:48 PM ET
Feel sorry for us. (frank) the Sabers. Skinner = Loui
- CanuckDon

Except 3m more and signed for longer. Worse than Loui by far lol.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 25 @ 4:53 PM ET
Except 3m more and signed for longer. Worse than Loui by far lol.
- Retinalz


Hall has one goal and being paid 8 mil.


I do feel sorry for those guys. They want to dump Eichel. What a mess.
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Feb 25 @ 4:56 PM ET
Some crazy ideas....

R. Rakell for JV+ Woo

then....

Skinner (9M) with 3M retained)

LE (6M) but only 1 year left

Having fun over here...

Edit: didnt look or know this was already talked about right above haha

Pacificgem
Location: Beautiful , AZ
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 25 @ 4:57 PM ET
Anyone remember when the Coyotes were praised for all the amazing prospects they had in their pool?
Wonder what happened to that phenomenal group.

- Reubenkincade

I don’t ever remember them having a great prospect pool. They’ve drafted top five like twice in the past 20 years.
Pacificgem
Location: Beautiful , AZ
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 25 @ 4:58 PM ET
Hall has one goal and being paid 8 mil.


I do feel sorry for those guys. They want to dump Eichel. What a mess.

- VANTEL

It’s crazy bad there but they could do a good reset by trading Eichel I’m guessing.
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32  Next