Nashville called buffalo
- gerbe75pts

Umm. For Eichel?

Aren’t they rebuilding?? I think. (I’m not looking at the standings)

Do what now?
- jochfr

Doesn’t Nashville have like half their lineup out?

I don’t think they’d want Hall at this point

Johan Larsson goal #6 tonight.

Sorry Beady

Does Boston try to keep up with the Islanders

Does Boston try to keep up with the Islanders
- Buff36

They SHOULD! Give me a 2022 top 3 protected first and a fancy prospect. For hall at 50% retained.

They SHOULD! Give me a 2022 top 3 protected first and a fancy prospect. For hall at 50% retained.
- Gr8daygo

We shall see, Carolina is sniffing around too know that Palmieri is gone. Maybe we get lucky and a little bidding war happens.

The Islanders got the best UFA forward available in a trade, per the CapFriendly comments.

Some injuries to some good players out there. Not that I want to see players get hurt, but could help the Sabres

The Islanders got the best UFA forward available in a trade, per the CapFriendly comments.




- kingcong39

There's a heavy recency bias afoot. Hall is higher profile, and has been very disappointing on the box stats. Palmeri is in no way the better forward, ever.

The Islanders got the best UFA forward available in a trade, per the CapFriendly comments.




- kingcong39

in the case of this year, hall's having a cody franson-type year where his analytics are saying that he's been good, but his game has really been lousy...

the islanders got the better player to fit the way they play

https://thehockeywriters....ine-deals-of-last-decade/
Hopefully Adams does better

in the case of this year, hall's having a cody franson-type year where his analytics are saying that he's been good, but his game has really been lousy...

the islanders got the better player to fit the way they play
- Michael Pachla

How so, and which player of the 2 the Islanders got is the better player?

How so, and which player of the 2 the Islanders got is the better player?
- kingcong39

i didn't say "better player" i said better player for the way islanders play...palmieri is much better at playing a pressure game than hall...by far...there's a consistency within his two-way game that fits trotz and the way he wants his team to play

i didn't say "better player" i said better player for the way islanders play...palmieri is much better at playing a pressure game than hall...by far...there's a consistency within his two-way game that fits trotz and the way he wants his team to play
- Michael Pachla

Does playing the pressure game translate into driving offense or defense?

Palmieri's consistent 2 way game this year has produced lackluster results offensively and defensively.

in the case of this year, hall's having a cody franson-type year where his analytics are saying that he's been good, but his game has really been lousy...

the islanders got the better player to fit the way they play
- Michael Pachla

Genuinely curious why you say that? I have heard similar from other media types, but not explained.

Edit: L8 ... see it above, thanks.

Does playing the pressure game translate into driving offense or defense?

Palmieri's consistent 2 way game this year has produced lackluster results offensively and defensively.
- kingcong39

I thought you had to drive defense in order to see offense. If you aren’t committed to defense 100% of the time you will never see offense.

If you're Kevyn, which would you rather have if you had to decrease your trade return
A) the 2021-1st round pick
B) "A"-prospect
C) 2021-2nd and B-prospect

Does playing the pressure game translate into driving offense or defense?

Palmieri's consistent 2 way game this year has produced lackluster results offensively and defensively.
- kingcong39

hall: 37 games 2 goals 17 assists 19 points -21
palmieri: 34 games 8 goals 9 assists 17 points -2

Genuinely curious why you say that? I have heard similar from other media types, but not explained.

Edit: L8 ... see it above, thanks.
- IonSabres

because pure analytics is simply numbers and graphs

If you're Kevyn, which would you rather have if you had to decrease your trade return
A) the 2021-1st round pick
B) "A"-prospect
C) 2021-2nd and B-prospect
- IonSabres

B!

because pure analytics is simply numbers and graphs
- Michael Pachla

Agreed that Advanced Analytics isn't the be all end all. They need to be in context and be combined with the eye test to form a better evaluation.
I think that is what you are saying, rather than just discount ting them as numbers and graphs, right?

Agreed that Advanced Analytics isn't the be all end all. They need to be in context and be combined with the eye test to form a better evaluation.
I think that is what you are saying, rather than just discount ting them as numbers and graphs, right?
- IonSabres

absolutely...and sometimes the eye test and the numbers don't add up...that's all

If you're Kevyn, which would you rather have if you had to decrease your trade return
A) the 2021-1st round pick
B) "A"-prospect
C) 2021-2nd and B-prospect
- IonSabres

And in Eakin's case

D.) Jofa street hockey helmet

Johan Larsson goal #6 tonight.

Sorry Beady
- sbroads24

Wow a whole 6 goals might as well put his name on the cup now right?

absolutely...and sometimes the eye test and the numbers don't add up...that's all
- Michael Pachla

I'm not a big fan of RAPM charts to describe a player's overall ability and usefulness. I feel they're as primitive as a hammer. But they do help, and what they show does surprisingly show up on the ice.

Hall's box score stats are poor, primarily his goal scoring. But what he does is use his speed and puck skill to generate chances in the offensive zone. He is definitely creating opportunity, and that's evident almost every game.

This is reflected on his charts.