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nateca444
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: butler, PA
Joined: 08.13.2020

Apr 17 @ 4:00 PM ET
Erod is playing some great hockey. Zoho should be a fixture in this lineup when the playoffs start.
- madmike71


Ya, I noticed him out there. Seems like his stick handling is pretty good. He reminds of a better conner sheary. He can bounce up and down the lineup but....makes for a good 4th liner.
nateca444
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: butler, PA
Joined: 08.13.2020

Apr 17 @ 4:01 PM ET
McCann looking like a 30 goal scorer like he did first half of last season. Nice thing was his fore-checking created that possession.
- Tojo.


So, do we protect him? Maybe let Zucker be taken? I haven't been keeping up with all of that?
awtr
Joined: 06.03.2020

Apr 17 @ 4:01 PM ET
Blueger hasn't seemed overly impressive since coming back. Based solely on eye test admittedly
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 17 @ 4:02 PM ET
Ya, I noticed him out there. Seems like his stick handling is pretty good. He reminds of a better conner sheary. He can bounce up and down the lineup but....makes for a good 4th liner.
- nateca444


That Connor Sheary that just scored his 12th goal of the season?
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Apr 17 @ 4:04 PM ET
So, do we protect him? Maybe let Zucker be taken? I haven't been keeping up with all of that?
- nateca444

If it's between Zucker and McCann, I think you protect McCann.
nateca444
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: butler, PA
Joined: 08.13.2020

Apr 17 @ 4:04 PM ET
That Connor Sheary that just scored his 12th goal of the season?
- Rinosaur


Lol, that's definitely him.
nateca444
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: butler, PA
Joined: 08.13.2020

Apr 17 @ 4:09 PM ET
That Connor Sheary that just scored his 12th goal of the season?
- Rinosaur


I guess I should say, a Conner Sheary that doesn't fall down... alot.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 17 @ 4:10 PM ET
I guess I should say, a Conner Sheary that doesn't fall down... alot.
- nateca444


Yeah. That really doesn't happen. Also, Sheary is much better than ERod.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Apr 17 @ 4:11 PM ET
That Connor Sheary that just scored his 12th goal of the season?
- Rinosaur

Caps are in good position to use Sheary for scoring depth with all the big wings they have in the line-up.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Apr 17 @ 4:15 PM ET
So, do we protect him? Maybe let Zucker be taken? I haven't been keeping up with all of that?
- nateca444

Pens got a protection problem up front. Most probably agree with just exposing Zucker. I don't, but don't want to get into it during a game, or really get too much into the off-season planning until seeing how this season ends.

Trading a forward before expansion might be a good idea, but hard to pull off with everyone else looking at their protection lists. Or making a side deal with Seattle.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 17 @ 4:18 PM ET
Pens got a protection problem up front. Most probably agree with just exposing Zucker. I don't, but don't want to get into it during a game, or really get too much into the off-season planning until seeing how this season ends.

Trading a forward before expansion might be a good idea, but hard to pull off with everyone else looking at their protection lists. Or making a side deal with Seattle.

- Tojo.


Zucker has to be protected, no? Wouldn’t they have to do what they did with Fleury?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 17 @ 4:21 PM ET
LOL
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Apr 17 @ 4:21 PM ET
Hard to believe out of the Buffalo-Penguins trade last year... Rodrigues was the most valuable guy to either team.

He's been rock solid this year.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Apr 17 @ 4:21 PM ET
Blueger hasn't seemed overly impressive since coming back. Based solely on eye test admittedly
- awtr


He seems to have regressed a bit, this is a good game for him to get things going again. As I say that, he looked pretty good below the net there.
nateca444
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: butler, PA
Joined: 08.13.2020

Apr 17 @ 4:22 PM ET
LOL
- Rinosaur



Haha maybe he doesn't get as lucky as Sheary? But when he does ..
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Apr 17 @ 4:27 PM ET
Zucker has to be protected, no? Wouldn’t they have to do what they did with Fleury?
- Rinosaur

Expansion rules are same as with Vegas. You either pick 8 skates + 1 goalie or 7 forward/3 dmen/1 goalie.

For forwards:
Crosby
Malkin
Jake
Kapanen
Rust
2 of McCann/Zucker/Blueger

Defense:
Letang
Dumo
Marino (Not sure if we need to protect him or if he is exempt). If not, probably Pettersson (unless he is traded in the offseason.) Then it's Matheson I'd guess.

Goalie
Jarry


So the only issue is at forward. I think if you trade Zucker for futures, you can almost force Seattle to take Matheson since there is really no one else of value for the Penguins. Maybe they take DeSmith?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 17 @ 4:31 PM ET
Right, so since Zucker has a clause doesn't he have to be protected?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 17 @ 4:34 PM ET
Rusty!
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Apr 17 @ 4:36 PM ET
Right, so since Zucker has a clause doesn't he have to be protected?
- Rinosaur



Only no movement clauses are recognized.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 17 @ 4:36 PM ET
Right, so since Zucker has a clause doesn't he have to be protected?
- Rinosaur

He does not have a NMC
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Apr 17 @ 4:37 PM ET
In the world of good problems to have: I have no idea who to take off the top PP when Malkin returns. They look so good. Can't believe we're top 10 after how we started.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Apr 17 @ 4:40 PM ET
Expansion rules are same as with Vegas. You either pick 8 skates + 1 goalie or 7 forward/3 dmen/1 goalie.

For forwards:
Crosby
Malkin
Jake
Kapanen
Rust
2 of McCann/Zucker/Blueger

Defense:
Letang
Dumo
Marino (Not sure if we need to protect him or if he is exempt). If not, probably Pettersson (unless he is traded in the offseason.) Then it's Matheson I'd guess.

Goalie
Jarry


So the only issue is at forward. I think if you trade Zucker for futures, you can almost force Seattle to take Matheson since there is really no one else of value for the Penguins. Maybe they take DeSmith?

- SuperHenderson13


Tanev and Carter too. Pens are going to lose a good player. I'm starting to believe they might be better served with the cap space over Zucker.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Apr 17 @ 4:45 PM ET
Tanev and Carter too. Pens are going to lose a good player. I'm starting to believe they might be better served with the cap space over Zucker.
- madmike71

I cant imagine Seattle taking an old Jeff Carter with 1 year on his deal. If Tanev is the worst we loss, I'm fine with that.

I really think Seattle should consider Matheson. They will need dynamic defensemen early. While we all agree MAtheson has offensive upside and poor defensive play, that could be valuable to an early team needing support/ticket sales from good hockey.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Apr 17 @ 4:48 PM ET
He does not have a NMC
- Feds91Stammer


He has an M-NTC. I thought it was any kind of trade clause.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Apr 17 @ 4:48 PM ET
I cant imagine Seattle taking an old Jeff Carter with 1 year on his deal. If Tanev is the worst we loss, I'm fine with that.

I really think Seattle should consider Matheson. They will need dynamic defensemen early. While we all agree MAtheson has offensive upside and poor defensive play, that could be valuable to an early team needing support/ticket sales from good hockey.

- SuperHenderson13


Good point about Carter. I love what Tanev brings to this team. I think we'll lose Bleugs or Tanev. Would be awesome if they took Matheson.
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