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Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

Apr 19 @ 12:59 PM ET
Eklund: Matchup Monday. Who's Better: Colorado or Tampa?
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Apr 19 @ 1:13 PM ET
Right now Vegas, Carolina and Florida are better than both.
If the nhl cracks down on cap circumvention for the playoffs then Tampa may have trouble. NHL has said anyone added to rosters just for playoffs are going to have to prove with medical records and they may require them activated prior to season end which will mess them up big time.
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Supercharged engine powered by high octane butthurt
Joined: 01.29.2013

Apr 19 @ 1:19 PM ET
When everyone is healthy, Tampa.

Currently, Colorado.

Carolina is no joke, but until they get a true #1 goalie, they will be a second-tier contender.

Aliaksandrhn
San Jose Sharks
Joined: 06.01.2009

Apr 19 @ 2:24 PM ET
Vegas
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Supercharged engine powered by high octane butthurt
Joined: 01.29.2013

Apr 19 @ 2:25 PM ET
Colorado or Tampa.

Vegas is not an option.

And they're not better than Tampa even if they were.

garybdiver54
Season Ticket Holder
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: Germantown, MD
Joined: 01.26.2012

Apr 19 @ 2:32 PM ET
What about Carolina or Florida. Both are ahead of Tampa in the standings.
CupOnBroadSt.
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.23.2012

Apr 19 @ 2:34 PM ET
Tampa Bay has Vasilevsky. He alone, makes them better than Colorado.
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Apr 19 @ 3:03 PM ET
Thanks Ek for leaving the Leafs out of this equation.. I'll just read and chuckle for a change.
Frozendisc
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Boise, ID
Joined: 08.22.2018

Apr 19 @ 3:51 PM ET
If Colorado had not been down to their third goalie, not too sure TB wins the Cup last year.

Colorado has Vegas, TB has Carolina......both will be challenging series.

Colorado should have the hunger, they stay healthy, they win it.
Frozendisc
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Boise, ID
Joined: 08.22.2018

Apr 19 @ 3:53 PM ET
Thanks Ek for leaving the Leafs out of this equation.. I'll just read and chuckle for a change.
- Leafsmart



Leafs will be lucky to not choke in round one, then they get smoked by the Peg.
Avsrchamps01
Joined: 06.27.2012

Apr 19 @ 4:11 PM ET
Avs in a 7 game series over TB
Justbecause
Location: World, ON
Joined: 02.08.2020

Apr 19 @ 4:22 PM ET
I think Colorado healthy, that means all their D, including Erik Johnson is just so fast up front and D. Goalie no one compares to Vasy!

Would be a great finals!
jsstewar
Nashville Predators
Location: United States, TN
Joined: 06.16.2008

Apr 19 @ 4:25 PM ET
Have you watched Carolina lately?
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Apr 19 @ 4:29 PM ET
Have you watched Carolina lately?
- jsstewar


I haven’t taken my eye off them since Ek told us all to keep an eye on them a few years ago.
Sharks77
Season Ticket Holder
San Jose Sharks
Location: San Bruno, CA
Joined: 06.08.2013

Apr 19 @ 4:44 PM ET
I haven’t taken my eye off them since Ek told us all to keep an eye on them a few years ago.
- TurdFergeson


Which Eye???
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Supercharged engine powered by high octane butthurt
Joined: 01.29.2013

Apr 19 @ 5:27 PM ET
Tampa's weaknesses :

Right side defense.

Backup goalie.

That's about it.

Oh, and Stamkos is a Glass Cannon.

Cap issues - Tampa isn't breaking any rules in the CBA. Change the rules. The question fans should ask themselves is - why isn't my team doing this? Tampa isn't the only team and they won't be the last until the rules change.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Apr 19 @ 6:32 PM ET
Still watching that trade tracker
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 19 @ 7:08 PM ET
Still watching that trade tracker
- glove_was_stuck

Taylor Hall could be on the move from BUF
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Apr 19 @ 7:48 PM ET
Tampa's weaknesses :

Right side defense.

Backup goalie.

That's about it.

Oh, and Stamkos is a Glass Cannon.

Cap issues - Tampa isn't breaking any rules in the CBA. Change the rules. The question fans should ask themselves is - why isn't my team doing this? Tampa isn't the only team and they won't be the last until the rules change.

- GalacticStone


The nhl already sent notice to teams that the old style of cap circumvention isn’t going to be tolerated. Many teams have complained about it. So I doubt Tampa gets away with adding Kucherov and Stamkos the day the season ends

Also they have other weaknesses. If they’d traded the waived Johnson for Skinner as Ek suggested maybe they’d be good.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 19 @ 9:08 PM ET
Tampa's weaknesses :

Right side defense.

Backup goalie.

That's about it.

Oh, and Stamkos is a Glass Cannon.

Cap issues - Tampa isn't breaking any rules in the CBA. Change the rules. The question fans should ask themselves is - why isn't my team doing this? Tampa isn't the only team and they won't be the last until the rules change.

- GalacticStone


The Stamkos injury though: that was not necessary for any devious reasons, right? You guys still had space to add the prorated part of Savard? So we are only talking about Kucherov?




Justbecause
Location: World, ON
Joined: 02.08.2020

Apr 19 @ 9:52 PM ET
The nhl already sent notice to teams that the old style of cap circumvention isn’t going to be tolerated. Many teams have complained about it. So I doubt Tampa gets away with adding Kucherov and Stamkos the day the season ends

Also they have other weaknesses. If they’d traded the waived Johnson for Skinner as Ek suggested maybe they’d be good.

- TurdFergeson

Kuch will be added game 1 of playoffs. Unless he is not ready.
Not circumvention at all. Stammer will be added when ready. Absolutely nothing gained to wait until playoffs as trade deadline has passed.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Apr 19 @ 10:37 PM ET
Kuch will be added game 1 of playoffs. Unless he is not ready.
Not circumvention at all. Stammer will be added when ready. Absolutely nothing gained to wait until playoffs as trade deadline has passed.

- Justbecause


Again...the league said anyone that teams try to add for game one of the playoffs is going to need to prove to the league and show medical records that they were not ready earlier. The league isn’t allowing teams the free cap circumvention that happened in the past.
Justbecause
Location: World, ON
Joined: 02.08.2020

Apr 20 @ 2:09 AM ET
Again...the league said anyone that teams try to add for game one of the playoffs is going to need to prove to the league and show medical records that they were not ready earlier. The league isn’t allowing teams the free cap circumvention that happened in the past.
- TurdFergeson

Again the documentation will be there. The surgery was done in New York. Even if ready, league asks Kuch why didn’t you play b4 the playoffs and Kuch replies “I had a hitch in my giddy”.

It’s a hip, timeline 4-6 months, surgery December 30th...do the math, easy peasy.
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Supercharged engine powered by high octane butthurt
Joined: 01.29.2013

Apr 20 @ 12:30 PM ET
Again the documentation will be there. The surgery was done in New York. Even if ready, league asks Kuch why didn’t you play b4 the playoffs and Kuch replies “I had a hitch in my giddy”.

It’s a hip, timeline 4-6 months, surgery December 30th...do the math, easy peasy.

- Justbecause


Hard salary cap is stupid anyway. You don't see a hard cap on owner profits.

They should have a luxury tax and be done with it.

How the hell is anyone supposed to keep a roster together with a hard cap? It guarantees that every team will have a turnstile at their locker room entrance.

avsgrinder
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 12.24.2018

Apr 20 @ 9:06 PM ET
LAST 10 GAMES: Avalanche: 9-1-0, averaging 4.1 goals, 7.4 assists, 5.8 penalties and 15.2 penalty minutes while giving up 2.6 goals per game with a .903 save percentage.

Over the past month (before the avs had to take the current mini-shutdown) the top three point-getters in the league over that time were: 1) rantanen: 2) mackinnon; 3) landeskog. more than mcdavid, matthews, whoever else. i’m sure that’s no longer the case cuz the team hasn’t played since last week but it speaks volumes nonetheless.

great article on why the avs’ defense (and in turn the offense they receive from the backend) is so good:

https://www.mckeenshockey...wnhill-colorados-defense/


they lead the league in a lot of important categories, ones that no team has had since the stanley cup winning chicago and pitt teams of 5-10 years back.

that said, tampa bay is freakin’ tampa bay. until someone knocks them out of the playoffs, they’re the reigning champs and deservedly so. team is absolutely amazing- and what they’ve done until their recent mini-slump is incredible all things considered (dealing with the bubble and winning, then a relatively quick turnaround to begin this weird season, and they just kept killing most other teams). all this without arguably their best player in kucherov.

i would give anything to see a COL v. TBL final. but i wouldn’t sleep on the hurricanes, boston (who are coming on hard atm, and may well still grab that top spot), toronto, or vegas.

will be interesting to see how it all plays out.
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