The Bolts are like 5 Mil over the cap for next year.

Every player is available for the right price.
- ImThatGuy

We should trade Jack Eichel because Kyle Okposo makes too much money.

You said name a successful team. It appears your definition of success is winning the cup or bust. In that case, you've severely limited options for choosing, but also made a disingenuous discussion.
- SDSabre

Name a successful team that pays there top defenseman 8+ million dollars... Sure you can be a top 16 team in the league but your not winning a cup with an 8 million dollar defenseman... Same can be said about a 13 million dollar Centre... Some of these guys make to much for where the cap sits.

Perhaps, but unfortunetly he has a NMC. Better to just accept he's here and hope for a rebound. I don't have anything against Girgs, but if he's the selection, I would be thrilled. I just see guys with higher upside then what he brings.
- SDSabre

28 can't go anywhere, he's the toughness this team needs to keep other teams from taking liberties. Of course he might trip over his own feet before he get's there, but he will be the deterrent.

We should trade Jack Eichel because Kyle Okposo makes too much money.
- TheSabresTaco

Sure, whatever you got to tell yourslef.

Again.

Ill fall back in line now.

Any player over 25 should be traded.

Get al prospects, the present needs to be the future.

Not sure.
He might be the guy they take anyway...relatively low cost, former 1st.

You'll hate me, but if I were Adams and couldn't trade, then I would expose
ZG
Risto
Miller

I would not expose Borgen, or work with them to find a way so they do not pick him.
His play at his cost is too valuable.
- IonSabres

I respect you, no hate here. That's why I asked you.
And I kinda agree.

I like borgen alot, i still feel like 55 has some trade value around the league, but what team would trad for risto prior to the expansion draft , to turn around and have to protect him in the draft?

I really like to dangle okposo or skimmer, with our pick.

Liking the youth and the upbeat hockey lately. Make's tage not expendable in my book. Asplund too.

Hope you're feeling better today.

Because the situations in Tampa and Colorado are exaclty the same.

I didn't realize that group think has infiltrated the buzz too.

Ill go back to falling in line.

PICK Owen "Tyler Myers" Power
- ImThatGuy

This isn't a good look.

I get what you're saying about the cap thing, but I assure you, the Tampa Bay Lightning will not trade Kucherov for anything close to fair because they're cap strapped. They have a pile of over-paid, middling forwards that they will shed before they get rid of Stamkos, Kucherov, Point, Hedman and Vasilevski.

Don't start throwing out the groupthink thing.

Mitts is playing above his capabilities? Asplund is too? So is Joker?

Asplund I'd say is playing at his projected level. Mitts and Joker have a much higher ceiling. Mitts especially.
- TheSabresTaco

Joker is playing 1RhD because they literally have no one else to play there. IMO he is not a 1RhD. Maybe he becomes one, but he isn't now.

I'm pulling for Asplund, but he was projected as a 3 or 4C. LW is the most populated position in hockey with talent, so again he's playing there because they don't have a 2LW...and at this point, maybe Skinner isn't a 1LW either. Point is, LW should be the easiest position to fill.

Mitts probably tops out at a 3C, which would be great if he can solidify that position with Cozens graduating to 2C next season.

All of that is IMO of course.

28 can't go anywhere, he's the toughness this team needs to keep other teams from taking liberties. Of course he might trip over his own feet before he get's there, but he will be the deterrent.
- Buff36

Do not insult our King.

Name a successful team that pays there top defenseman 8+ million dollars... Sure you can be a top 16 team in the league but your not winning a cup with an 8 million dollar defenseman... Same can be said about a 13 million dollar Centre... Some of these guys make to much for where the cap sits.
- DirtyDan

vegas has the most points in the nhl this season, and they are doing it

Name a successful team that pays there top defenseman 8+ million dollars... Sure you can be a top 16 team in the league but your not winning a cup with an 8 million dollar defenseman... Same can be said about a 13 million dollar Centre... Some of these guys make to much for where the cap sits.
- DirtyDan

You literally said it yourself with Hedman making 7.8.. I know you're not going to sit here and say "not an 8M defenseman." You can't say it doesn't happen, at all, well except for that one time, and also Vegas is a successful team with one. Dougie will get 9+ from some team, and he's absolutely worth it. Probably won't be us, so you don't gotta worry about it, as we have our bloated contracts already.

Joker is playing 1RhD because they literally have no one else to play there. IMO he is not a 1RhD. Maybe he becomes one, but he isn't now.

I'm pulling for Asplund, but he was projected as a 3 or 4C. LW is the most populated position in hockey with talent, so again he's playing there because they don't have a 2LW...and at this point, maybe Skinner isn't a 1RW either.

Mitts probably tops out at a 3C, which would be great if he can solidify that position with Cozens graduating to 2C next season.

All of that is IMO of course.
- IonSabres

We shall see.

Sure, whatever you got to tell yourslef.

Again.

Ill fall back in line now.

Any player over 25 should be traded.

Get al prospects, the present needs to be the future.
- ImThatGuy

Tell me "Lightning should trade Kucherov because they're cap strapped" isn't the exact same as "Sabres should trade Eichel because they're cap strapped"

Because the situations in Tampa and Colorado are exaclty the same.

I didn't realize that group think has infiltrated the buzz too.

Ill go back to falling in line.

PICK Owen "Tyler Myers" Power
- ImThatGuy

That doesn't mean he's bad I hope people aren't thinking this way the Myers of rookie year is who I see powers being my only negative is his physical play

Don't forget his truculent penalty
- jcragcrumple

Dumb, selfish penalty in the offensive zone on a pp.

Might have cost them the cup. 😉

Sure, whatever you got to tell yourslef.

Again.

Ill fall back in line now.

Any player over 25 should be traded.

Get al prospects, the present needs to be the future.
- ImThatGuy

I don't disagree with your logic, getting better players. But you can't just say Kuch could be had easily for our first. I doubt it. He's one of the best players in the league, they'll pay their late first to get themselves out of the trouble like they have 4 years running instead of giving one of best players. That's what good teams do.

That doesn't mean he's bad I hope people aren't thinking this way the Myers of rookie year is who I see powers being my only negative is his physical play
- gerbe75pts

Well people are 100% taking it that way haha.

I don't disagree with your logic, getting better players. But you can't just say Kuch could be had easily for our first. I doubt it. He's one of the best players in the league, they'll pay their late first to get themselves out of the trouble like they have 4 years running instead of giving one of best players. That's what good teams do.
- SDSabre

kuch has a NMC

he is not waiving that to go to buffalo


next topic?

Well people are 100% taking it that way haha.
- SDSabre

Only thing with Powers is he is a LD, he wouldn't fit as Dahlin's partner.

Only thing with Powers is he is a LD, he wouldn't fit as Dahlin's partner.
- Buff36

dahlin said many times he is comfortable playing RD before the draft

kuch has a NMC

he is not waiving that to go to buffalo


next topic?
- homiedclown

You sure? Perennial stanley cup contender where you are a focal point, leader, and no state income tax

vs

Buffalo.

Bet if BriseBois says pretty please he will /s

You literally said it yourself with Hedman making 7.8.. I know you're not going to sit here and say "not an 8M defenseman." You can't say it doesn't happen, at all, well except for that one time, and also Vegas is a successful team with one. Dougie will get 9+ from some team, and he's absolutely worth it. Probably won't be us, so you don't gotta worry about it, as we have our bloated contracts already.
- SDSabre

Roman Josi, John Carlson, Alex Pietrangelo. The rest of them are on average to bad teams.

Well people are 100% taking it that way haha.
- SDSabre

I see that now .. I liked Myers I believe the contract got to his head and negative press and fans didn't help

Risto>Sam because of hits and minutes.

This discussion has moved to the 13th floor.
- TheSabresTaco

Skimmer > great28

10 goal pace for a whole season at 9 million

12 goals last season. 2.2 million per (basically 1/4) skimmers salary.

Sam is just going thru the motions. Lot's of stones being thrown around, considering the lack of good play by your 2 favorites. DEflEcTIon ClaReNCE KiD.

Dumb, selfish penalty in the offensive zone on a pp.

Might have cost them the cup. 😉
- Boss34

Do you think Seattle would select Risto if their choices were Asplund, Miller, Girgensons and Risto?

I dont. I think they would take Asplund but could be incentivized to take Girgensons pretty easily

I don't disagree with your logic, getting better players. But you can't just say Kuch could be had easily for our first. I doubt it. He's one of the best players in the league, they'll pay their late first to get themselves out of the trouble like they have 4 years running instead of giving one of best players. That's what good teams do.
- SDSabre

The issue with this is the entire league is cap strapped.
Sure the expansion draft will help but no current team can take on a bad player making 5 Mil.