Over how many years?
- jcragcrumple

Having a bad day, lol?

Heis defensive play renders him as a 3rd pairing. Plain and simple.
THAT is what counts the most when playing Defense.
He is horrible at the transition game and is not defensively sound in front of the net.
He needs a stud Dman ahead of him so he can play against lesser competition and be deployed in favorable conditions (sheltered) to limit the ill-effects of his faults...low hockey IQ, bad at the D.

His 46% of all his points on the PP is good and he is perfect for the front of the net...he is unmovable there. Dahlin takes his spot up top on the PP..which likely reduces his points going forward.
He plays tough, so that is good as well.

Now the economics.
He is expensive for a 3rd pairing guy who gets PP time.
At $2m, a decent pay for 3rd pairing guys, he can can fit in financially.

As far as 4 guys better than him...he plays on the right, so forget the 3 on the left.
He isn't a 1st pairing for sure...that ship left the dock a long time ago.
I like Joker at 2RhD better, especially at a much, much lower cost.

Don't take it so hard Boss. It's reality.
- IonSabres

This is what this sounds like to me. An opinion:

I would love sam if he were a 3c for 2 million.
Deployed in the right situations agaisnt other slow players. He is a forward and should score goals and points. Plenty of his points are on the pp.

Not realistic uncle ion. More trolling in anything.

My point - the post stated the Sabres did not have the LUXURY of pushing an expensive Risto down a pair or two. YET, they did that with two other players who cost more.

If Risto is serviceable at a 2/3 pairing, move him down. Stop playing him top tier and work on sending him out the door. I, do not mind him.

And, maybe, just maybe, all these awesome trade offers that everyone knows about (I have no knowledge of the inside of the front office) also came/come with a caveat that the Sabres could not stomach.

Basically, I do not know.
- TC4145

He was on the third pair last night

Got dominated

He’s bad at hockey

That's how you end up in Tannerville with Franson takes
- jcragcrumple

...marcel goc

This is what this sounds like to me. An opinion:

I would love sam if he were a 3c for 2 million.
Deployed in the right situations agaisnt other slow players. He is a forward and should score goals and points. Plenty of his points are on the pp.

Not realistic uncle ion. More trolling in anything.
- Boss34

That is true for pretty much every forward that gets primary PP time

However less than half of his points are on the PP (12 points, 7 of which are goals)

So 7 out of his 17 goals are on the PP

So on his current 32 goal pace, 13 of which would be on the PP

Pretty much the same percentage of his goals as Auston Matthews has on the PP (10 of his 33 are on the PP)

This is what this sounds like to me. An opinion:

I would love sam if he were a 3c for 2 million.
Deployed in the right situations agaisnt other slow players. He is a forward and should score goals and points. Plenty of his points are on the pp.

Not realistic uncle ion. More trolling in anything.
- Boss34

even strength points this season

sam reinhart is tied with
stamkos
forsberg
pageau
hoffman


not bad for a third liner who missed eichel for over half the games

That is true for pretty much every forward that gets primary PP time

However less than half of his points are on the PP (12 points, 7 of which are goals)

So 7 out of his 17 goals are on the PP

So on his current 32 goal pace, 13 of which would be on the PP

Pretty much the same percentage of his goals as Auston Matthews has on the PP (10 of his 33 are on the PP)
- Stripes77

Bergeron has 6 more even strength points this season

reinhart stinks

even strength points this season

sam reinhart is tied with
stamkos
forsberg
pageau
hoffman


not bad for a third liner who missed eichel for over half the games
- homiedclown

Oh my!

Oh my!
- Boss34

when you take the blinders off, he is nowhere near as bad as you preach to us daily


look at broads today on risto

that is you for the last 3 years on reinhart

...marcel goc
- Mentalorgasm5

I missed the Goc take. I remember Franson and of course the infamous Chimera take

I missed the Goc take. I remember Franson and of course the infamous Chimera take
- jcragcrumple

You mean the poor man's Eichel.. Actually better then Jack ECHL

That is true for pretty much every forward that gets primary PP time

However less than half of his points are on the PP (12 points, 7 of which are goals)

So 7 out of his 17 goals are on the PP

So on his current 32 goal pace, 13 of which would be on the PP

Pretty much the same percentage of his goals as Auston Matthews has on the PP (10 of his 33 are on the PP)
- Stripes77

Risto 532 gp 46 goals 195 assists 241 points
Sam 444 gp 126 goals 159 assists 285 points

Really, sam a forward has only 80 more goals and 44 more points in 80 less games
😀😀😀😀😀😀😀

when you take the blinders off, he is nowhere near as bad as you preach to us daily


look at broads today on risto

that is you for the last 3 years on reinhart
- homiedclown

👏👏👏
This is a VERY ACCURATE post

when you take the blinders off, he is nowhere near as bad as you preach to us daily


look at broads today on risto

that is you for the last 3 years on reinhart
- homiedclown

I'm not going to give you the opportunity to start a long angry nobody win arguement.

Sam is not a 7 million $ player you build around.
Plain and simple

Risto 532 gp 46 goals 195 assists 241 points
Sam 444 gp 126 goals 159 assists 285 points

Really, sam a forward has only 80 more goals and 44 more points in 80 less games
😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
- Boss34

This is two seasons worth of goals for a 40 goal scorer

It would take Risto 11 years to get to 80 goals

when you take the blinders off, he is nowhere near as bad as you preach to us daily


look at broads today on risto

that is you for the last 3 years on reinhart
- homiedclown

Rasmus Ristolainen is bad at hockey.

Not sure how anyone can say differently in year 8

Sam Reinhart is good at hockey

Not sure how anyone can say differently in year 7

👏👏👏
This is a VERY ACCURATE post
- jdfitz77

every stat over the last 5 years puts reinhart in the top 90, hence first liner

except for one


salary

This is what this sounds like to me. An opinion:

I would love sam if he were a 3c for 2 million.
Deployed in the right situations agaisnt other slow players. He is a forward and should score goals and points. Plenty of his points are on the pp.

Not realistic uncle ion. More trolling in anything.
- Boss34

Thats a new low. Reinhart deserves less than girgensons

I'm not going to give you the opportunity to start a long angry nobody win arguement.

Sam is not a 7 million $ player you build around.
Plain and simple
- Boss34

What a strawman....

Where did anyone say build around Sam Reinhart? So why even make such an absurd statement

Also who is signing for 7m that you build around? Another nonsense statement.

Players that you build around are getting 10+

I'm not going to give you the opportunity to start a long angry nobody win arguement.

Sam is not a 7 million $ player you build around.
Plain and simple
- Boss34

what year did he get 7 per?

I missed the Goc take. I remember Franson and of course the infamous Chimera take
- jcragcrumple

The best part on goc, the year after that take he was playing in europe.

Anyone else think we got the best player in the draft with Cozens? At first I didn't ike the pick and wanted Zegras but its starting to look like Cozens could be the best player in the draft.

I'm not going to give you the opportunity to start a long angry nobody win arguement.

Sam is not a 7 million $ player you build around.
Plain and simple
- Boss34

But Risto is worth $5.4m? For a 3rd Pairing Dman?

Did he get drafted in thec1st round of your fantasy draft or something?

Rasmus Ristolainen is bad at hockey.

Not sure how anyone can say differently in year 8

Sam Reinhart is good at hockey

Not sure how anyone can say differently in year 7
- sbroads24

Right, risto is terrible, maybe we can trick another gm into giving us a top 6 forward. Before the word gets out.

Risto a defenseman, has more career points than a guy connected to jack eichel turnout his whole career.

what year did he get 7 per?
- homiedclown

Next year. If they keep him. And probably many years afterwards. Top 90 forward and all.