Fair points, just have a lot of soul searching to do this summer. I hope Quinn can figure out ways to adjust his game plan vs these top of the standings teams. I understand they are young and will struggle but not looking competitive at times worries me some.

I just really want an upgrade at center. Not saying Strome has to go but they need someone tougher to play against like Jimbo says. Strome and Chytill have skill but man get pushed around easily and really struggle at the dot.
- TPC

Heres the situation you end up with with Strome. The obvious move is we sell high in a trade either direct or for pieces that will end up being used to make a trade. The other option is move him to RW and trade either Buch, Kakko or Krav.

Then the next question is... for who? Obviously I love Barkov and he would be my ideal person. However, its a pipedream.

Heres the situation you end up with with Strome. The obvious move is we sell high in a trade either direct or for pieces that will end up being used to make a trade. The other option is move him to RW and trade either Buch, Kakko or Krav.

Then the next question is... for who? Obviously I love Barkov and he would be my ideal person. However, its a pipedream.
- aecliptic

Hopefully a team in need of a top line type of winger maybe willing to move a center for a player like Buch. I have come to the conclusion that either Buch, Kakko or Kravstov will be traded this summer for a center.

Hopefully a team in need of a top line type of winger maybe willing to move a center for a player like Buch. I have come to the conclusion that either Buch, Kakko or Kravstov will be traded this summer for a center.
- TPC

My ideal moves would be to replace Strome with Elias Lindholm or Tomas Hertl, as well as replacing Chytil with Boone Jenner.

LAF, Zib
Panarin, Lindholm/Hertl
Kreider, Jenner
Barron, Rooney

Im leaving out the RWs cause who knows how that pans out, but Id like for it to look something like that.

My ideal moves would be to replace Strome with Elias Lindholm or Tomas Hertl, as well as replacing Chytil with Boone Jenner.

LAF, Zib
Panarin, Lindholm/Hertl
Kreider, Jenner
Barron, Rooney

Im leaving out the RWs cause who knows how that pans out, but Id like for it to look something like that.
- aecliptic

Not a bad idea

Should be an interesting offseason. Rangers have some cap space opening up and some upgrades needed to complement the core

Not a bad idea

Should be an interesting offseason. Rangers have some cap space opening up and some upgrades needed to complement the core
- TPC

I really like the idea of a Kreider, Jenner, Kakko line. I feel like they could be a real stopper line... frustrate the hell out of other teams, guys that can change the momentum of a game.

I’d be ok with trading any of these guys

Buch
Strome
Kakko
Blackwell
Jones
Chytil
Nils
Robertson
Gauthier lol

Untouchables list

Fox
Lindgren
Miller
Laf
Schneider
Krav
Shesty

I’d be ok with trading any of these guys

Buch
Strome
Kakko
Blackwell
Jones
Chytil
Nils
Robertson
Gauthier lol

Untouchables list

Fox
Lindgren
Miller
Laf
Schneider
Krav
Shesty
- Slimtj100

I wonder what type of package Kakko could get us....

I’d be ok with trading any of these guys

Buch
Strome
Kakko
Blackwell
Jones
Chytil
Nils
Robertson
Gauthier lol

Untouchables list

Fox
Lindgren
Miller
Laf
Schneider
Krav
Shesty
- Slimtj100

Id add Miller and Krav to the trade able list. Miller would definitely get us a good young center. It would have to be a good package. Krav doesnt have much value, except in Ranger fans minds.

Id add Miller and Krav to the trade able list. Miller would definitely get us a good young center. It would have to be a good package. Krav doesnt have much value, except in Ranger fans minds.
- Brukie

Anything depends on the return but Miller is close to the “not worth it unless it’s a ridiculous overpay” category

I wonder what type of package Kakko could get us....
- nyrangers9479

I honestly think on a different team Kakko is going to be what we hoped for here. Maybe its the system, maybe its the environment however if he goes to an established team with experienced coaches and players were gonna look back and get really annoyed... depending on the return of course.

The first name that comes to mind in trading Kakko is Josh Norris. Other than that, a blockbuster type deal.

My ideal moves would be to replace Strome with Elias Lindholm or Tomas Hertl, as well as replacing Chytil with Boone Jenner.

LAF, Zib
Panarin, Lindholm/Hertl
Kreider, Jenner
Barron, Rooney

Im leaving out the RWs cause who knows how that pans out, but Id like for it to look something like that.
- aecliptic

Regardless of what's said here there's no way the organization is going to trade a 21 year old former 1st rd pick for a 27 year old career 3rd liner just because he's good at faceoffs. Chytil has outscored Jenner each of the past 2 years on a ppg basis. Jenner has 17 points in 41 games this year, 2 in his last 16 games. I get he does other things well and he may be a good fit for our 3rd line but despite you disliking him we could get more for Chytil than friggen Boone Jenner.

If you want to talk about defensive play, I know stats only tell part of the story but Chytil has had a better +/- and better advanced stats than Jenner over the past 2 years. The only season that Jenner has been better than Chytil was Chytil's rookie year when he was 19 and Jenner was 25.

If you want Chytil gone the more logical move would be including him in your deal bringing back Lindholm or Hertl which I would be more supportive of.

Id add Miller and Krav to the trade able list. Miller would definitely get us a good young center. It would have to be a good package. Krav doesnt have much value, except in Ranger fans minds.
- Brukie

Theres not much I wouldnt trade to get Barkov to NY.

Regardless of what's said here there's no way the organization is going to trade a 21 year old former 1st rd pick for a 27 year old career 3rd liner just because he's good at faceoffs. Chytil has outscored Jenner each of the past 2 years on a ppg basis. Jenner has 17 points in 41 games this year, 2 in his last 16 games. I get he does other things well and he may be a good fit for our 3rd line but despite you disliking him we could get more for Chytil than friggen Boone Jenner.

If you want to talk about defensive play, I know stats only tell part of the story but Chytil has had a better +/- and better advanced stats than Jenner over the past 2 years. The only season that Jenner has been better than Chytil was Chytil's rookie year when he was 19 and Jenner was 25.

If you want Chytil gone the more logical move would be including him in your deal bringing back Lindholm or Hertl which I would be more supportive of.
- SkjeiStadium

you bringing up Hertl made me look at San Jose on Cap Friendly and I just cant get over how horrifying that Erik Karlsson contract is

you bringing up Hertl made me look at San Jose on Cap Friendly and I just cant get over how horrifying that Erik Karlsson contract is
- jimbro83

It's got to be the worst in the league and it's amplified by the flat cap.

I just pulled up capfriendly since you mentioned it and while I like Hertl as a player, I didn't realize he's a UFA after next year. I'd be much more hesitant trading a cost controlled Chytil to bring in Hertl for 1 year at $5.625 and then needing to resign him the same year we have to give Zib, Fox, Kakko and Krav new deals.

Regardless of what's said here there's no way the organization is going to trade a 21 year old former 1st rd pick for a 27 year old career 3rd liner just because he's good at faceoffs. Chytil has outscored Jenner each of the past 2 years on a ppg basis. Jenner has 17 points in 41 games this year, 2 in his last 16 games. I get he does other things well and he may be a good fit for our 3rd line but despite you disliking him we could get more for Chytil than friggen Boone Jenner.

If you want to talk about defensive play, I know stats only tell part of the story but Chytil has had a better +/- and better advanced stats than Jenner over the past 2 years. The only season that Jenner has been better than Chytil was Chytil's rookie year when he was 19 and Jenner was 25.

If you want Chytil gone the more logical move would be including him in your deal bringing back Lindholm or Hertl which I would be more supportive of.
- SkjeiStadium

First of all, I never said were trading Chytil for Jenner. Great work taking things out of context. All I said is Id like to replace Chytil on the 3rd line with Jenner (or someone of the same ilk).

Secondly, I dont know what numbers youre looking at but up until this year Chytil's never outscored Jenner at any point in his career. Thirdly, Im not bringing Jenner in to score, which he can clearly do, hes being brought in to add grit, faceoffs, special teams play. All those things we lack. The Jackets have been a bit of a train wreck, so I give him a bit of a pass.

you bringing up Hertl made me look at San Jose on Cap Friendly and I just cant get over how horrifying that Erik Karlsson contract is
- jimbro83

Top 3 D men on that team taking up 26.5 million of the cap for years to come

It's got to be the worst in the league and it's amplified by the flat cap.

I just pulled up capfriendly since you mentioned it and while I like Hertl as a player, I didn't realize he's a UFA after next year. I'd be much more hesitant trading a cost controlled Chytil to bring in Hertl for 1 year at $5.625 and then needing to resign him the same year we have to give Zib, Fox, Kakko and Krav new deals.
- SkjeiStadium

yeah, I'm very apprehensive about trading for any of these guys with one year left on their deals

yeah, I'm very apprehensive about trading for any of these guys with one year left on their deals
- jimbro83

It's why Buch is such a big decision. Cheap for one more year but then due a huge raise, coming off his best season in the league. If there ever was a time to sell high its now

Top 3 D men on that team taking up 26.5 million of the cap for years to come
- TPC

why in God's name is Vlasic making 7 million a year until he's 39 years old.

It's got to be the worst in the league and it's amplified by the flat cap.

I just pulled up capfriendly since you mentioned it and while I like Hertl as a player, I didn't realize he's a UFA after next year. I'd be much more hesitant trading a cost controlled Chytil to bring in Hertl for 1 year at $5.625 and then needing to resign him the same year we have to give Zib, Fox, Kakko and Krav new deals.
- SkjeiStadium

Youre really worried about Kakko and Krav contracts? Theyll get bridge deals to keep their cost low, especially since they havent yet done anything to garner a significant contract.

The best thing we can hope for with Fox is a long-term cost effective contract.

Us having to resign these guys now with a flat cap may be better for us in the long run.

It's why Buch is such a big decision. Cheap for one more year but then due a huge raise, coming off his best season in the league. If there ever was a time to sell high its now
- TPC

I agree

yeah, I'm very apprehensive about trading for any of these guys with one year left on their deals
- jimbro83

Obviously youre not making that deal if he's not going to resign. However, when you just compare the 2 teams how does he come here after being in SJ and say, nah no thanks. You want me to center Panarin? Yea, Ill pass.

why in God's name is Vlasic making 7 million a year until he's 39 years old.
- jimbro83

It would be one thing if the Sharks were contenders, you can deal with it. Like the Rangers paying Girardi and Staal that high money, at least we were in contention most of those years. But man paying all of that to lose, not a good situation at all

It's why Buch is such a big decision. Cheap for one more year but then due a huge raise, coming off his best season in the league. If there ever was a time to sell high its now
- TPC

Ive been saying this from day 1. If we see Krav to be as good as Buch, then we gotta sell high on Buch. Buch's new contract will likely be in the 5.5 range, maybe more with the year hes had and will likely come with a NTC of some sort.

It would be one thing if the Sharks were contenders, you can deal with it. Like the Rangers paying Girardi and Staal that high money, at least we were in contention most of those years. But man paying all of that to lose, not a good situation at all
- TPC

if you sign a guy until 39 years old, you only do that to lessen the cap hit

San Jose does things wrong, quite often