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jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 3 @ 10:35 AM ET
I'm done watching games this season. I legit did not even watch 1 second of the game on Saturday.
- JRR1285


that was a tough watch

I will watch, would be nice if some of the new guys got their first NHL goals
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 3 @ 10:35 AM ET
New York Rangers
@NYRangers
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21s
UPDATE: Chris Kreider, Jacob Trouba, Ryan Lindgren and Brett Howden are all out tonight. Artemi Panarin (maintenance) is also not skating this morning

- jimbro83

How many spots can we go up in the draft if we lose out?
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 3 @ 10:36 AM ET
How many spots can we go up in the draft if we lose out?
- TPC



Easy Tom.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 3 @ 10:36 AM ET
Hey, don't make me come out of hiding.
- JRR1285

I don't know if you saw it but so dumb

If I was Taylor Hammers I would be pissed
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 3 @ 10:38 AM ET
I don't know if you saw it but so dumb

If I was Taylor Hammers I would be pissed

- TPC



I thought about doing it to you but I was so mad that Zib and Fox basically straight up (frank)ed me I didn't care anymore. Also losing Ovi and Stamkos didn't help. I got hot just in time to totally poop the bed.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

May 3 @ 10:39 AM ET
I think in the 2022-23 season, if the kids developments continues, the Rangers will be able to compete for the cup. That's not to say they'd be favorites, but I think the hopeful plan would be to make playoffs next season, get some experience, and then the window on contention would open the following year.
- SkjeiStadium


Once in the playoffs, they have a punchers chance. However...
- Theres a serious consistency issue. Some how no 2 games or 2 periods ever look the same. Every game almost seems like youre seeing a different team.
- Whenever they had back to back games against the top teams, they just cant seem to figure out how to game plan and adjust. Whether they won or just barely lost the first game, they almost always lost the second game.
- Even against the teams we should beat, with every next game played rather than beating down a bad team, these teams closed the margin every game. By the third game against, were sitting on the edge of our seats trying to understand why game 1 was a 5-1 win and game three is a 2-2 tie and were being outplayed in the 3rd of the 3rd game against a bottom team. If we cant do this against them, we sure as hell cant do it against the big boys.
- Shesty. He has his own consistency issues. The playoffs are so much about having the hot goalie.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 3 @ 10:41 AM ET
I thought about doing it to you but I was so mad that Zib and Fox basically straight up (frank)ed me I didn't care anymore. Also losing Ovi and Stamkos didn't help. I got hot just in time to totally poop the bed.
- JRR1285

you were down by 100, not sure it would have saved you
climbdenali12
New York Rangers
Location: MSG sec 226 Row 17 Seats 23-24
Joined: 11.18.2008

May 3 @ 10:42 AM ET
I don't know if you saw it but so dumb

If I was Taylor Hammers I would be pissed

- TPC


I didn't think it would actually work as I was over 50 points behind. Figured it was worth the chance.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 3 @ 10:42 AM ET
How many spots can we go up in the draft if we lose out?
- TPC


I think we are picking 15th unless we win the lottery no matter what
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

May 3 @ 10:46 AM ET
Just spitballing here:

What do you guys think about Trent Frederic of Boston? Big , young, mean and physical player that is still on his ELC. In a small sample size, he is actually good at faceoffs too.

Boston has had a screaming need for scoring all season and they have some cap space opening up this coming offseason. Perhaps we offer Kreider for Frederic and some pieces?

Kreider would likely approve of a trade to go home, we get younger and meaner and we actually clear some needed cap space for the future. If not Kreider, then perhaps Buch or Strome? WIN/WIN
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

May 3 @ 10:47 AM ET


I am only playing within the rules...

Sorry taylorhammers

- climbdenali12


No apologies necessary, you exploited a loop hole --- well played.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

May 3 @ 10:48 AM ET
Just spitballing here:

What do you guys think about Trent Frederic of Boston? Big , young, mean and physical player that is still on his ELC. In a small sample size, he is actually good at faceoffs too.

Boston has had a screaming need for scoring all season and they have some cap space opening up this coming offseason. Perhaps we offer Kreider for Frederic and some pieces?

Kreider would likely approve of a trade to go home, we get younger and meaner and we actually clear some needed cap space for the future. If not Kreider, then perhaps Buch or Strome? WIN/WIN

- TommyGTrain


5 pts in 38 games this season and i just don't like him. i'd pass on that. agree that we need some snarl but he's just a poophead
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

May 3 @ 10:49 AM ET
Just spitballing here:

What do you guys think about Trent Frederic of Boston? Big , young, mean and physical player that is still on his ELC. In a small sample size, he is actually good at faceoffs too.

Boston has had a screaming need for scoring all season and they have some cap space opening up this coming offseason. Perhaps we offer Kreider for Frederic and some pieces?

Kreider would likely approve of a trade to go home, we get younger and meaner and we actually clear some needed cap space for the future. If not Kreider, then perhaps Buch or Strome? WIN/WIN

- TommyGTrain


Were back on the Frederic trades.

I think Boston really likes Frederic, not sure how that would go down.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 3 @ 10:54 AM ET
No apologies necessary, you exploited a loop hole --- well played.
- TommyGTrain



He's the Lighting of the fantasy league.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 3 @ 10:57 AM ET
Were back on the Frederic trades.

I think Boston really likes Frederic, not sure how that would go down.

- aecliptic



The Rangers send them garbage obviously.

What about Studnicka?
climbdenali12
New York Rangers
Location: MSG sec 226 Row 17 Seats 23-24
Joined: 11.18.2008

May 3 @ 10:58 AM ET
No apologies necessary, you exploited a loop hole --- well played.
- TommyGTrain

SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

May 3 @ 11:06 AM ET
Once in the playoffs, they have a punchers chance. However...
- Theres a serious consistency issue. Some how no 2 games or 2 periods ever look the same. Every game almost seems like youre seeing a different team.
- Whenever they had back to back games against the top teams, they just cant seem to figure out how to game plan and adjust. Whether they won or just barely lost the first game, they almost always lost the second game.
- Even against the teams we should beat, with every next game played rather than beating down a bad team, these teams closed the margin every game. By the third game against, were sitting on the edge of our seats trying to understand why game 1 was a 5-1 win and game three is a 2-2 tie and were being outplayed in the 3rd of the 3rd game against a bottom team. If we cant do this against them, we sure as hell cant do it against the big boys.
- Shesty. He has his own consistency issues. The playoffs are so much about having the hot goalie.

- aecliptic

Agreed there's definitely consistency issues. To your second point, I think there's some recency bias. 21 times this year the rangers played a team back to back. They were 9-12 in the first games and 12-9 in the second games. In series where they lost the 1st game, they were 8-4 in the second game.

If you want to focus on "top teams" i removed the devils and sabres games from those numbers above. Without those series, the Rangers played 15 back to backs. They went 4-11 in the first game, and 7-8 in the second game. In series when they lost the first game, they went 7-4 in the second game.

This tells me two things. One, they did a decent job most of the season in bouncing back from losses against the same team in the next game and getting the win. When they won the first game, they had a very hard time sweeping the series. Including the whole division, they went 4-5 in second games when they won the first. Removing the devils and sabres, they went 0-4 in those games.
climbdenali12
New York Rangers
Location: MSG sec 226 Row 17 Seats 23-24
Joined: 11.18.2008

May 3 @ 11:17 AM ET
Agreed there's definitely consistency issues. To your second point, I think there's some recency bias. 21 times this year the rangers played a team back to back. They were 9-12 in the first games and 12-9 in the second games. In series where they lost the 1st game, they were 8-4 in the second game.

If you want to focus on "top teams" i removed the devils and sabres games from those numbers above. Without those series, the Rangers played 15 back to backs. They went 4-11 in the first game, and 7-8 in the second game. In series when they lost the first game, they went 7-4 in the second game.

This tells me two things. One, they did a decent job most of the season in bouncing back from losses against the same team in the next game and getting the win. When they won the first game, they had a very hard time sweeping the series. Including the whole division, they went 4-5 in second games when they won the first. Removing the devils and sabres, they went 0-4 in those games.

- SkjeiStadium


The Rangers fall right into the position they are in the standings. They were better than the teams below them and left wanting to the teams above them. I know that is an over simplification but for this year it tells the truth.

I truly believe this team needs to remain mostly intact with some small adjustment.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 3 @ 11:19 AM ET
someone bought razors

eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 3 @ 11:19 AM ET
Just spitballing here:

What do you guys think about Trent Frederic of Boston? Big , young, mean and physical player that is still on his ELC. In a small sample size, he is actually good at faceoffs too.

Boston has had a screaming need for scoring all season and they have some cap space opening up this coming offseason. Perhaps we offer Kreider for Frederic and some pieces?

Kreider would likely approve of a trade to go home, we get younger and meaner and we actually clear some needed cap space for the future. If not Kreider, then perhaps Buch or Strome? WIN/WIN

- TommyGTrain

TPC just added you to his hit list
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

May 3 @ 11:22 AM ET
TPC just added you to his hit list
- eichiefs9

I am not worried, Kreider didn't demand a no movement clause to just say nah nevermind trade me one year in
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 3 @ 11:24 AM ET

Mollie Walker
@MollieeWalkerr
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20s
#NYR Kaapo Kakko says he feels like his game is so much better than last year.

"Not that many points, of course everyone, forwards like me, want to score some goals and get some points... but I think my game is getting so much better than last season."
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

May 3 @ 11:27 AM ET
The Rangers fall right into the position they are in the standings. They were better than the teams below them and left wanting to the teams above them. I know that is an over simplification but for this year it tells the truth.

I truly believe this team needs to remain mostly intact with some small adjustment.

- climbdenali12

Agree 100%
SkjeiStadium
New York Rangers
Joined: 03.09.2017

May 3 @ 11:29 AM ET
Mollie Walker
@MollieeWalkerr
·
20s
#NYR Kaapo Kakko says he feels like his game is so much better than last year.

"Not that many points, of course everyone, forwards like me, want to score some goals and get some points... but I think my game is getting so much better than last season."

- jimbro83

I think he's right. He controlled the puck at an elite level this year. It didn't translate to points but he was way stronger on the puck and much more confident. He's a little like Nash in that he doesn't have a very strong shot so most of his goals will come from forcing his way to the front. Hopefully he can work on his shot this offseason so that he's a threat from the outside which will hopefully open up the inside a bit more for him. Either way I think the points will come
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

May 3 @ 11:32 AM ET
I think he's right. He controlled the puck at an elite level this year. It didn't translate to points but he was way stronger on the puck and much more confident. He's a little like Nash in that he doesn't have a very strong shot so most of his goals will come from forcing his way to the front. Hopefully he can work on his shot this offseason so that he's a threat from the outside which will hopefully open up the inside a bit more for him. Either way I think the points will come
- SkjeiStadium


Our young guys are gonna have a summer of training much more effective than they were able to have last summer
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